In this episode of The Chief Exchange Podcast, Alec Wons sits down with Deputy Commissioner of Operations Kaz Daughtry and Chief John Chell of the NYPD. They delve into the transition from field work to administration, the revolutionary role of drones in policing, and how to handle threats to yourself and your family. They also discuss the importance of education and continued learning, and provide insights on the realities faced by migrants entering New York. Tune in to hear valuable advice, including some unexpected dating tips, from these seasoned law enforcement leaders.

In Episode 22 of The Chief Exchange Podcast, Deputy Chief Patrick Fale from Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue, OR, joins host Alec Wons for an enlightening conversation. Chief Fale delves into the nuances of fast and slow brain thinking in decision-making, explains why culture trumps strategy, and shares his perspective on how 'bad news' can actually be 'good news.' He also discusses the key components of health and wellness that Chiefs should focus on in their departments and explores the differences between policy and people problems. Don’t miss this episode filled with invaluable insights and leadership lessons.

In Episode 21 of The Chief Exchange Podcast, host Alec Wons sits down with Greg Flynn, Fire Chief of West Bloomfield Fire, MI. Chief Flynn shares invaluable insights on navigating difficult conversations when promoting from within, the importance of setting expectations early, and the distinction between leadership and management. He also discusses strategies to mitigate bullying in the department and emphasizes the significance of mental health with The Yellow Rose Campaign. Tune in for an inspiring conversation filled with actionable advice and heartfelt wisdom.

In Episode 20 of The Chief Exchange Podcast, host Alec Wons sits down with Jeffery Norman, Chief of Police at Milwaukee Police Department. Chief Norman shares his insights on the power of preparation, the importance of holding others accountable, and the critical role of frequent community engagement. He discusses innovative approaches to recruiting new personnel and the extensive planning involved in preparing for the upcoming Republican National Convention (RNC) in Milwaukee. Chief Norman emphasizes the importance of expanding your network and shares his mantra, “Develop. Mentor. Coach.” Tune in for an episode packed with leadership wisdom and practical advice for public safety professionals. (Note: the episode was recorded in March of 2024)

In Episode 19 of The Chief Exchange Podcast, Alec Wons sits down with Fire Chief Daniel Munsey and Deputy Chief Martin Serna from San Bernardino County Fire Protection District. They delve into the secrets of building a powerful command staff, the strategic decision-making process of hiring from within versus bringing in an outside Chief, and how one firefighter's actions changed the trajectory of their department. This episode also explores the one trait that all successful leaders exhibit and the importance of having a growth mindset. Join us for a conversation filled with insights on leadership, recruitment, and personal passion.

Join us for an insightful episode of The Chief Exchange Podcast as we sit down with Chief Aaron Lipski of Milwaukee Fire Department and Chief Dennis Rubin of Kansas City Kansas Fire Department. In this episode, we delve into critical topics such as diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) in the fire service, the importance of a strong relationship between administration and unions, and the debate over entering abandoned, burning buildings. Discover strategies to ensure firefighters reach retirement healthy and ready for the next chapter. With decades of experience and leadership, Chiefs Lipski and Rubin provide valuable perspectives and practical advice for current and future fire service leaders.

Join us for Episode 17 of The Chief Exchange Podcast featuring Chief Fullum of DeKalb County Fire Rescue, GA. With over 36 years of service and a background in the US Army, Chief Fullum shares his strategies for recruitment, the parallels between the army and fire service, and the importance of mentorship and continued education. Discover why trust is the key to success and learn about the largest challenges facing fire departments nationwide. This episode is packed with insights from a seasoned leader dedicated to constant improvement.

In Episode 16 of The Chief Exchange Podcast, Alec Wons sits down with Retired Chief Ronald Haddad of the Dearborn Police Department (MI) to discuss his extensive experience, including his time working in the White House. Chief Haddad shares the remarkable achievement of reducing the use of force in Dearborn PD by 84%, insights into policing during the Covid-19 pandemic, and why officer wellness needs a complete overhaul. They also delve into the importance of community engagement and the crucial partnership between Fire and Police Chiefs to better serve their cities and counties. Tune in for a compelling conversation on how structured procedures can lead to safer and more effective policing.

In Episode 15 of The Chief Exchange Podcast, Alec Wons sits down with Patrick Patton, the Police Chief of Kenosha Police Department in Wisconsin. Chief Patton, a Marine Corps veteran, shares his wisdom on the top three traits every respected leader must possess to be successful. He dives deep into the positive impact of autonomy on officers and discusses how the media landscape affects law enforcement. Learn about the power of understanding your 'Why,' the importance of proper support, and why effective communication is crucial for law enforcement leaders. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to enhance their leadership skills in the challenging field of law enforcement.

Join us on Episode 14 of The Chief Exchange Podcast as Alec Wons sits down with Chief Michael Baker from Tulsa Fire Department. In this insightful episode, Chief Baker shares his unique perspective on the importance of failing forward and drawing parallels between the army and public safety. Learn how to effectively tailor your communication style for individuals versus groups and discover the secret to increasing the conversion rate of applicants to sworn firefighters. Don’t miss this episode filled with practical wisdom and leadership insights!