The Chocolate Podcast

The Chocolate Podcast

By Ed Easton and Andrew NasonComedyArtsHistoryFood
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The Chocolate Podcast episodes

  • Why Did Cadbury and Hershey Build Entire Towns?

    Can chocolate change the world? Milton Hershey and George Cadbury certainly believed it could.


    Behind two of the world's most famous chocolate brands lies an extraordinary story of philanthropy, social reform and the ambition to build a better society through chocolate.

    In this episode of The Chocolate Podcast, Ed Easton and Andrew Nason of Melt Chocolates explore the fascinating history of Cadbury and Hershey, two chocolate pioneers who believed their businesses could do more than simply make money.


    During an era of industrial poverty, overcrowded cities and poor working conditions, George Cadbury and Milton Hershey set out to create something extraordinary: communities built around their chocolate factories, designed to improve the lives of their workers and families.


    From Bournville, Cadbury's model village in Birmingham, to Hershey, Pennsylvania, America's famous chocolate town, we explore how two businessmen attempted to create their own versions of a chocolate utopia.


    But were these communities genuinely revolutionary examples of corporate philanthropy, or did they also give chocolate manufacturers extraordinary control over their workers' lives?


    In this episode, we explore:

    • The remarkable history of Milton Hershey and George Cadbury
    • How Cadbury created the Bournville model village
    • The story behind Hershey, Pennsylvania, and America's chocolate town
    • The influence of Quaker values on the Cadbury chocolate business
    • How chocolate manufacturers approached workers' welfare, housing and education
    • The relationship between chocolate, philanthropy and social reform
    • Whether businesses can genuinely create a better society


    From the Industrial Revolution to the modern chocolate industry, this is the story of two men who wanted to build a paradise powered by chocolate.

    Could chocolate really save the world?


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    39 min
  • Why Does Hershey's Chocolate Taste Like Sick?

    Why does Hershey's chocolate taste like vomit? And how did Milton Hershey turn a strange-tasting milk chocolate into one of the biggest chocolate brands in the world?


    In Part Two of the Hershey story, Ed Easton and Andrew Nason explore the invention of American milk chocolate, the science behind its distinctive flavour and the extraordinary decisions that transformed Milton Hershey's chocolate empire.


    After selling his successful caramel business for $1 million in 1900, Milton Hershey could have retired a wealthy man. Instead, inspired by European chocolate makers and his travels with his wife, Kitty, he invested his fortune into a new ambition: making milk chocolate affordable for everyone.


    But there was one problem. The Swiss had already perfected milk chocolate, and Hershey couldn't replicate their process.


    We explore how Daniel Peter and Henri Nestlé helped pioneer Swiss milk chocolate, how Cadbury developed its distinctive British chocolate-making methods, and how Hershey's experiments with milk created a completely different American flavour.


    At the centre of the mystery is butyric acid, a compound associated with the distinctive tangy, sometimes vomit-like smell and taste of Hershey's chocolate. But how did it end up in American chocolate, and why did this unusual flavour become so popular?


    Andrew and Ed put three famous chocolate brands to the test, tasting Hershey's, Cadbury Dairy Milk and Lindt to discover what makes American, British and Swiss milk chocolate so different.

    We also uncover Hershey's relationship with his wife Kitty, the influence of Cadbury's Bournville village, the origins of Hershey's Kisses and the remarkable connection between Milton Hershey and the Titanic.

    From chocolate chemistry and industrial innovation to one of the most extraordinary stories in American business history, this episode reveals how Hershey changed chocolate forever.


    In this episode:

    • Why Hershey's chocolate tastes different from European chocolate
    • The science of butyric acid and American milk chocolate
    • How Swiss, British and American chocolate-making methods developed
    • Milton Hershey's $1 million gamble on chocolate
    • The influence of Cadbury, Nestlé and Lindt
    • The story of Milton and Kitty Hershey
    • The origins of Hershey's Kisses and the Titanic connection


    This is Part Two of our Milton Hershey series. Watch Part One to discover how a struggling confectioner built a caramel empire before risking everything on chocolate.

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    31 min
  • How Milton Hershey Went From Failure to Chocolate Billionaire

    Why does American chocolate taste so different? And how did a failed candy maker become the founder of one of the biggest chocolate companies in the world?


    In this episode of The Chocolate Podcast, Ed Easton and Andrew Nason uncover the extraordinary story of Milton Hershey, the man who transformed American chocolate forever.


    Born in 1857, Hershey grew up caught between two very different parents. His father, Henry, was an ambitious dreamer whose endless business ventures often ended in failure. His mother, Fanny, was a strict Mennonite who believed in hard work, discipline and religion. Together, their opposing personalities would shape one of America's most influential entrepreneurs.


    We follow Hershey through his early failures, disastrous business decisions and the unlikely discovery of a new caramel-making technique that would change his fortunes. From selling sweets on the streets of Lancaster to building a hugely successful caramel company, Hershey's journey is a story of perseverance, innovation and extraordinary ambition.


    But just as he finally achieves success, Hershey makes an astonishing decision. He sells his entire caramel empire after discovering something he believes will change the future of confectionery: milk chocolate.


    Why would a successful businessman abandon everything he'd built? And how would his next invention help explain the unusual taste of American chocolate, including the distinctive flavour associated with Hershey's?


    This is Part One of the Milton Hershey story, exploring the origins of Hershey's chocolate, the history of American confectionery and the family relationships that shaped the chocolate industry.

    Follow The Chocolate Podcast as we continue tracing the history of milk chocolate, from its earliest innovations to the global chocolate brands we know today.

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    32 min
  • Did M&M's Change American Chocolate Forever?

    How did Forrest Mars fight his way back into the family business and turn Mars into one of the most powerful companies in the world?


    In Part Two of the Mars story, Ed Easton and Andrew Nason are joined again by Melt’s chocolate researcher, Kitty Nason to uncover the extraordinary battle for control of the Mars chocolate empire. After the death of Frank Mars, the company didn’t simply pass to his son. Instead, Forrest found himself fighting family members, executives and competing interests for control of the business that carried his name.


    We follow the family power struggle that eventually pushed Forrest towards one of his most important creations: M&M’s. After approaching Hershey executive William Murrie, Forrest formed a new company, secured access to rationed chocolate during the Second World War and supplied M&M’s to the US military. The success would ultimately give him the financial power he needed to pursue control of Mars.


    But taking over was only the beginning. We explore Forrest’s obsessive approach to quality, his ruthless management style, the transformation of Mars into a global operation, and the extraordinary family dynamics that continued into the next generation. Even retirement couldn’t stop him: after handing Mars over to his son, he went on to establish another successful chocolate company named after his mother, Ethel M.


    From Mars Bars and M&M’s to pet food and Uncle Ben’s, this is the story of the ambition, rivalry and family conflict behind one of the most recognisable food companies on Earth.


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    40 min
  • The Weird Link Between Dog Food and Mars Bars

    How did Mars go from a failed family candy business to the beginnings of one of the biggest chocolate companies in the world?


    In this episode of The Chocolate Podcast, Ed Easton and Andrew Nason are joined by Melt’s Kitty to uncover the extraordinary story of Frank Mars and Forrest Mars, the father and son behind the Mars chocolate empire. From making candy at home and failed early businesses to a family feud that would transform the chocolate industry, the story of Mars is far stranger than you might expect.


    We trace the creation of the Milky Way and Mars Bar, discover why the American Milky Way is completely different from the British one, and follow Forrest Mars from a Chicago prison to Yale, Swiss chocolate factories, Cadbury and, eventually, Slough, where he began building his own chocolate empire.


    Along the way, we explore the birth of the modern candy bar, the industrialisation of chocolate, Mars's surprising move into pet food, and the bitter relationship between Frank and Forrest that ultimately left Forrest frozen out of the family company after his father's death.


    And that's only the first half of the story.


    Next episode: What happens when Forrest Mars returns to America determined to take control of the company that bears his name?


    Follow The Chocolate Podcast for more stories exploring the history, science and people behind chocolate.


    Topics: Mars chocolate history, Mars Bar history, Milky Way chocolate, Forrest Mars, Frank Mars, history of chocolate, chocolate industry, candy bar history, Mars Incorporated, British chocolate history.

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    32 min
  • The Villain of El Dorado | Lope de Aguirre

    In this episode of The Chocolate Podcast, Andrew & Ed Easton roleplay and discuss the life of Lope de Aguirre, a Basque conquistador who fought for Spain in Peru, who was publicly whipped for mistreating indigenous people, hunted down and murdered Judge Esquivel, then joined an El Dorado expedition led by Pedro de Ursúa.


    Aguirre helps overthrow and kill Ursúa, installs Fernando de Guzmán as a figurehead prince, then betrays and kills Guzmán and others, imposes paranoid rules, and writes a manifesto-style letter rebelling against King Philip II and the Spanish monopoly system.


    After seizing Margarita Island and committing further brutality, his force dwindles through desertion as Spain offers pardons; surrounded in Venezuela, Aguirre kills his daughter to prevent her capture, is shot by his own men, beheaded, and displayed. We link his story to the destructive realities of the so-called Columbian Exchange and the suppression of indigenous chocolate knowledge.


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    46 min
  • Rum, Resilience, and Revolution: Henry Morgan's Last Stand Pt.3

    How did Captain Henry Morgan pull off one of the most audacious pirate attacks in history?


    In the final chapter of our story of Captain Henry Morgan, we follow the legendary privateer as he attempts the seemingly impossible: the capture of Panama City.


    After surviving the explosion of his own flagship, Morgan could have walked away. Instead, he assembled the largest Buccaneer force of its kind, bringing together around 2,000 English, French, Dutch, African and Caribbean fighters for an extraordinary expedition across Panama.

    But Panama wasn’t waiting to be attacked.


    The Spanish knew Morgan was coming. Forts were reinforced, soldiers prepared, routes blocked and supplies removed. To reach the city, Morgan and his men would have to capture heavily defended positions, travel down the Chagres River, cross dense rainforest and survive hunger, ambushes and disease before they could even face the Spanish army.


    And then there were the cows.


    In this episode of The Chocolate Podcast, we explore the extraordinary Battle of Panama, the disastrous Spanish cattle strategy, the mysterious fate of Panama’s silver and the combination of resilience, brutality and military ingenuity that turned Henry Morgan into a legend.


    We also uncover the connection to chocolate. Pirates weren’t simply hunting for chests of gold. Sugar, cacao and other valuable commodities were an important part of the Caribbean economy they were fighting over, and chocolate itself could be treasure.


    Finally, we follow Morgan back to England, where the man who should perhaps have been punished for attacking Panama instead found himself celebrated, knighted and ultimately transformed from pirate into politician.


    Was Henry Morgan a criminal, a military genius, an entrepreneur or simply the ultimate opportunist?


    Probably a little of all four.


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    #TheChocolatePodcast #CaptainMorgan #HenryMorgan #Pirates #PirateHistory #Panama #ChocolateHistory #Cacao #CaribbeanHistory #Buccaneers #FoodHistory #MeltChocolate

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    46 min
  • Ruthless Criminal or Tactical Genius? Andrew & Ed Investigate Henry Morgan Pt.2

    The legend of Henry Morgan continues. In Part 2 of our deep dive into the life of the world’s most famous (and misunderstood) pirate, we explore the daring raids, political maneuvers, and the surprising legacy he left behind.


    Was Henry Morgan a ruthless criminal or a tactical genius? From the shores of Port Royal to the heart of the Spanish Empire, we unpack the history that the textbooks often leave out. If you missed the beginning of this journey, make sure to catch up on the first part of our Henry Morgan series on the Chocolate Podcast.


    In this video, we cover:


    • The strategic brilliance behind Morgan's most famous battles.
    • How a "pirate" became the Lieutenant Governor of Jamaica.
    • The truth behind the myths of the Caribbean’s Golden Age.


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    Subscribe to our Substack for more in-depth articles about chocolate history. https://substack.com/@meltchocolates


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    #HenryMorgan #PirateHistory #ChocolatePodcast #HistoryDeepDive #CaribbeanHistory #PortRoyal #TrueStory

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    44 min
  • The Pirate & The "Sheep's Poo" | Captain Henry Morgan Pt.1

    In our limited series - The Chocolate Pirate Series, Ed Easton and Andrew Nason discuss Captain Henry Morgan’s role in 17th-century European power struggles that shaped the histories of sugar, plantations, and chocolate, including an account of privateers mistaking valuable cacao for “sheep’s poo.”


    They outline what is known and disputed about Morgan’s origins (born around 1635 in Wales, possibly arriving in Jamaica as an indentured servant) and describe his rise in Jamaica as an ambitious, politically astute privateer with a negotiated crew code for shares and injury payments.


    The episode centers on Morgan’s 1668 raid on the heavily fortified Spanish port of Portobello: landing covertly, taking and blowing up a fort, and using captured monks and nuns to advance on another fort, with contested reports of later conduct and torture. Morgan then ransoms the city, taunts Panama’s governor with a pistol, and the story ends setting up Part 2.


    Subscribe to our Substack for more in-depth articles about chocolate history. https://substack.com/@meltchocolates


    Browse our chocolate collection, hand-made made by top chocolatiers in London, Notting Hill. https://meltchocolates.com/


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    40 min
  • How The "Gentleman Pirate" Can Teach Us About Chocolate in the 17th Century | Andrew & Ed Adventure with Stede Bonnet

    Was Stede Bonnet really the worst pirate in history? Or has history been too harsh on the so-called "Gentleman Pirate"?


    In this episode of The Chocolate Podcast, in our limited series - The Chocolate Pirate Series, Andrew & Ed dive into the remarkable true story of Stede Bonnet, the wealthy Barbados plantation owner who abandoned everything to become a pirate.

    Unlike every famous pirate before him, Bonnet had no naval experience, no military training, and no idea what he was doing. Yet within months he found himself sailing alongside Blackbeard, battling Spanish warships, raiding merchant vessels, and becoming one of the most unusual figures of the Golden Age of Piracy.


    Along the way, we explore:




    • Why a wealthy gentleman would risk everything for piracy
    • The surprising connection between pirates, sugar plantations, and chocolate
    • Blackbeard's unlikely relationship with Steed Bonnet
    • Whether Bonnet deserves his reputation as history's worst pirate
    • The real story behind walking the plank
    • How pirate ships actually made money (and why it wasn't usually gold)
    • The chocolate cargoes that helped fuel the Caribbean economy


    As always, we separate pirate legend from historical reality, uncovering the people, trade, and commodities that shaped the world chocolate emerged from.

    If you enjoy stories where history, chocolate, economics, and adventure collide, this episode is for you.


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    46 min

About The Chocolate Podcast

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Welcome to The Chocolate Podcast, the podcast where we unwrap the rich, sticky, and sometimes bittersweet history of the world’s most beloved treat.


From the sacred rituals…