Podcast: Industrial Cybersecurity Insider
Episode: The CISO & Talent Crisis: Turnover Meets OT Cybersecurity Gaps
Pub date: 2025-04-01

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In this episode, Dino and Craig dive deep into the disturbing talent exodus in cybersecurity. The discussion is sparked by Gartner’s prediction that 25% of cybersecurity professionals will leave the field in the next year.

They explore the growing gap between IT and OT teams, the lack of CISO influence in executive leadership, and the friction between cybersecurity goals and operational uptime.

With real-world anecdotes and hard-hitting insights, they unpack everything from rogue assets and malware in OT environments to the challenges of implementing EDR tools in live production lines.

Whether you're a CISO, CIO, or plant manager, this episode offers a candid look at the complex dynamics of securing industrial environments — and how collaboration is the only path forward.

Chapters:

• 00:00:00 – Kicking Off with a Brutal Reality Check on Cybersecurity
• 00:01:06 – Gartner Says 25% of Cyber Pros Are Leaving — Here’s Why That Matters
• 00:03:15 – IT vs OT: The Culture Clash Still Killing Cyber Progress
• 00:09:35 – Why the Wrong Service Partner Could Be Your Biggest Risk
• 00:14:05 – Malware, Rogue Assets, and the Ugly Truth About Your Plant Floor
• 00:18:22 – Real Strategies for Fixing the IT/OT Disconnect (Without Killing Uptime)
• 00:24:06 – Stop Talking. Start Acting. What Cyber Leaders Need to Do Today

Links And Resources:

• Industrial Cybersecurity Insider on LinkedIn
• Cybersecurity Insider Newsletter
• Dino Busalachi on LinkedIn
• Craig Duckworth on LinkedIn

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