(00:00-9:15): How does God work in the midst of grief and pain? Brian and Aubrey talked about this and commented on Sarah Condon’s Mockingbird article, “A Vision for the Broken Hearted.”

(9:15-27:03):Dr. Katie Butler, trauma and critical care surgeon turned writer and homeschooling mom, joined Brian and Aubrey to chat about her new book, “Glimmers of Grace: A Doctor’s Reflections on Faith, Suffering, and the Goodness of God.” 

Learn more about Katie and her books at oceansrisesite.blog

(27:03-36:57): Brian and Aubrey talked about Aubrey’s new book, “Known: How Believing Who God Says You Are Changes Everything.” 

(36:57-46:27): Do you have a social media philosophy? Brian and Aubrey discussed this and commented on Micah Fries’ tweet, 

“My social media philosophy that I've learned &/or adjusted over the years:

- Share content

- Try to respond with kindness to everyone

- Be firm about what I believe to be true

- Engage in conversation when it's fun or joking

- Never, ever argue. (with very, very rare exceptions)”  

(46:27-1:03:44): Natalie Franke, Head of Community for HoneyBook and Co-founder of the Rising Tide Society, joined Brian and Aubrey to talk about her new book, “Built to Belong: Discovering the Power of Community Over Competition.”

Learn more about Natalie and her book at nataliefranke.com and connect with her on Twitter at @nataliefranke

(1:03:44-1:14:00): Brian and Aubrey discussed the amazing TED Talk from Molly Wright, “How every child can thrive by five.”

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

(00:00-9:15): How does God work in the midst of grief and pain? Brian and Aubrey talked about this and commented on Sarah Condon’s Mockingbird article, “A Vision for the Broken Hearted.”

(9:15-27:03):Dr. Katie Butler, trauma and critical care surgeon turned writer and homeschooling mom, joined Brian and Aubrey to chat about her new book, “Glimmers of Grace: A Doctor’s Reflections on Faith, Suffering, and the Goodness of God.” 

Learn more about Katie and her books at oceansrisesite.blog

(27:03-36:57): Brian and Aubrey talked about Aubrey’s new book, “Known: How Believing Who God Says You Are Changes Everything.” 

(36:57-46:27): Do you have a social media philosophy? Brian and Aubrey discussed this and commented on Micah Fries’ tweet, 

“My social media philosophy that I've learned &/or adjusted over the years:

- Share content

- Try to respond with kindness to everyone

- Be firm about what I believe to be true

- Engage in conversation when it's fun or joking

- Never, ever argue. (with very, very rare exceptions)”  

(46:27-1:03:44): Natalie Franke, Head of Community for HoneyBook and Co-founder of the Rising Tide Society, joined Brian and Aubrey to talk about her new book, “Built to Belong: Discovering the Power of Community Over Competition.”

Learn more about Natalie and her book at nataliefranke.com and connect with her on Twitter at @nataliefranke

(1:03:44-1:14:00): Brian and Aubrey discussed the amazing TED Talk from Molly Wright, “How every child can thrive by five.”

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

(00:00-8:24): What sources should we trust when getting information about COVID-19? Brian and Aubrey talked about this and reacted to the KSL-TV news story about Mindy Greene, whose husband is fighting for his life in the ICU, “Utah family shares regret over not getting COVID-19 vaccine because of ‘fear and lies.’”  

(8:24-24:09): Esther Eaton, Education Reporter for WORLD, joined Brian and Aubrey to chat about her WORLD Magazine articles, 

“The great school mask debate”

“Post-COVID classrooms”

“A year of COVID homeschooling” 

Check out Esther’s articles at wng.org and connect with Esther on Twitter at @EstherJay10

(24:09-32:35): Brian and Aubrey commented on the news that “Pumpkin spice is back earlier than ever.” They also shared their thoughts on the importance of in-person worship and Jonathan Leeman’s TGC Talks message, “Not Gathering with the Church Hurts You Spiritually.” 

(32:35-41:55): How can we have compassionate conversations with friends and family members who are hesitant about getting the COVID-19 vaccine? Brian and Aubrey discussed this and commented on Tanya Basu’s MIT Technology Review article, “How to talk to vaccine-hesitant people.” 

(41:55-50:58): Brian and Aubrey unpacked Charles Stone’s Churchleaders.com article, “How to Be a Non Anxious Presence in the Face of Criticism.” 

(50:58-1:00:01): Brian and Aubrey talked about church culture and discussed a quote from Ray Ortlund, "A church can unsay—by its culture—what it is says by its doctrine, and not even realize it."

(1:00:01-1:08:45): Brian and Aubrey closed the show with some good news.

Trash Company Finds $25,000 Stashed in a Discarded Freezer and Tracks Down Owners to Return Cold Hard Cash 

Boy Raises $700,000 For Hospice By Camping Out For 500 Nights After Dying Man Gives Him a Tent 

Wisconsin Town Falls in Love With Wayward Beach Ball, Playing ‘Where’s Waldo’ and Hiding It on Local Streets

Police escort son of late officer on first day of school

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

(00:00-8:24): What sources should we trust when getting information about COVID-19? Brian and Aubrey talked about this and reacted to the KSL-TV news story about Mindy Greene, whose husband is fighting for his life in the ICU, “Utah family shares regret over not getting COVID-19 vaccine because of ‘fear and lies.’”  

(8:24-24:09): Esther Eaton, Education Reporter for WORLD, joined Brian and Aubrey to chat about her WORLD Magazine articles, 

“The great school mask debate”

“Post-COVID classrooms”

“A year of COVID homeschooling” 

Check out Esther’s articles at wng.org and connect with Esther on Twitter at @EstherJay10

(24:09-32:35): Brian and Aubrey commented on the news that “Pumpkin spice is back earlier than ever.” They also shared their thoughts on the importance of in-person worship and Jonathan Leeman’s TGC Talks message, “Not Gathering with the Church Hurts You Spiritually.” 

(32:35-41:55): How can we have compassionate conversations with friends and family members who are hesitant about getting the COVID-19 vaccine? Brian and Aubrey discussed this and commented on Tanya Basu’s MIT Technology Review article, “How to talk to vaccine-hesitant people.” 

(41:55-50:58): Brian and Aubrey unpacked Charles Stone’s Churchleaders.com article, “How to Be a Non Anxious Presence in the Face of Criticism.” 

(50:58-1:00:01): Brian and Aubrey talked about church culture and discussed a quote from Ray Ortlund, "A church can unsay—by its culture—what it is says by its doctrine, and not even realize it."

(1:00:01-1:08:45): Brian and Aubrey closed the show with some good news.

Trash Company Finds $25,000 Stashed in a Discarded Freezer and Tracks Down Owners to Return Cold Hard Cash 

Boy Raises $700,000 For Hospice By Camping Out For 500 Nights After Dying Man Gives Him a Tent 

Wisconsin Town Falls in Love With Wayward Beach Ball, Playing ‘Where’s Waldo’ and Hiding It on Local Streets

Police escort son of late officer on first day of school

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

(00:00-9:42): Brian and Aubrey discussed the situation in Afghanistan and talked about praying for God to intervene in miraculous ways in that region. 

NBC News: “Trapped by Taliban takeover, Afghans who helped the U.S. fear they've been abandoned”

Christine Caine: “Can’t quit thinking about this from an email a friend sent me yesterday. … “most expect to meet Jesus face to face in the next two weeks.” 

(9:42-27:38): Matthew Soerens, US Director of Church Mobilization & Advocacy for World Relief, National Coordinator for the Evangelical Immigration Table, and Co-author of “Seeking Refuge: On the Shores of the Global Refugee Crisis” & “Welcoming the Stranger: Justice, Compassion & Truth in the Immigration Debate,” joined Brian and Aubrey to chat about the conflict in Afghanistan and the earthquake in Haiti.

Learn more about World Relief at worldrelief.org

(27:38-36:37): How can we find peace while we’re waiting on the Lord? Brian and Aubrey explored this topic and commented on a video from Matt Chandler.  

(36:37-46:06): Why isn’t abortion a motivating issue for many evangelicals? Brian and Aubrey commented on Ryan Burge’s Religion News Service opinion article, “Abortion just isn’t the motivating issue for evangelicals it once was.” 

(46:06-55:17): Brian and Aubrey talked about the devastating earthquake in Haiti.

“7.2-magnitude earthquake kills more than 1,400 in Haiti”

“A Tropical Storm Is Drenching Earthquake-Stricken Haiti”

“How to Pray for Haiti After Another Deadly Earthquake”

Support the people of Haiti at foodforthepoor.org

(55:17-1:05:12): Is social media making us stupid, stressed, and fake? Brian and Aubrey talked about the positive and negative effects of social media. 

(1:05:12-1:14:03): Brian and Aubrey shared their thoughts on Lysa TerKeurst’s Proverbs 31 devotion, “When Comfort Is My Enemy.” 

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

(00:00-9:42): Brian and Aubrey discussed the situation in Afghanistan and talked about praying for God to intervene in miraculous ways in that region. 

NBC News: “Trapped by Taliban takeover, Afghans who helped the U.S. fear they've been abandoned”

Christine Caine: “Can’t quit thinking about this from an email a friend sent me yesterday. … “most expect to meet Jesus face to face in the next two weeks.” 

(9:42-27:38): Matthew Soerens, US Director of Church Mobilization & Advocacy for World Relief, National Coordinator for the Evangelical Immigration Table, and Co-author of “Seeking Refuge: On the Shores of the Global Refugee Crisis” & “Welcoming the Stranger: Justice, Compassion & Truth in the Immigration Debate,” joined Brian and Aubrey to chat about the conflict in Afghanistan and the earthquake in Haiti.

Learn more about World Relief at worldrelief.org

(27:38-36:37): How can we find peace while we’re waiting on the Lord? Brian and Aubrey explored this topic and commented on a video from Matt Chandler.  

(36:37-46:06): Why isn’t abortion a motivating issue for many evangelicals? Brian and Aubrey commented on Ryan Burge’s Religion News Service opinion article, “Abortion just isn’t the motivating issue for evangelicals it once was.” 

(46:06-55:17): Brian and Aubrey talked about the devastating earthquake in Haiti.

“7.2-magnitude earthquake kills more than 1,400 in Haiti”

“A Tropical Storm Is Drenching Earthquake-Stricken Haiti”

“How to Pray for Haiti After Another Deadly Earthquake”

Support the people of Haiti at foodforthepoor.org

(55:17-1:05:12): Is social media making us stupid, stressed, and fake? Brian and Aubrey talked about the positive and negative effects of social media. 

(1:05:12-1:14:03): Brian and Aubrey shared their thoughts on Lysa TerKeurst’s Proverbs 31 devotion, “When Comfort Is My Enemy.” 

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

(00:00-8:29): Brian and Aubrey talked about the chaos in Afghanistan as U.S. Forces leave the country. They also discussed how to pray for Afghanistan and other places in crisis.  

“Afghans scale walls, rush tarmac in frenzy to flee as Kabul wakes to Taliban takeover” 

“How to Pray for Afghanistan—and the Taliban”

(8:29-17:10): Brian and Aubrey talked about Aubrey’s family vacation and they discussed the importance of rest. 

(17:10-26:21): “How Do Churches End Up with Domineering Bullies for Pastors?” Brian and Aubrey commented on Sam Allberry’s Gospel Coalition article and chatted about the recent episode of “The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill.” 

(26:21-34:48): Brian and Aubrey shared what “Grinds their Gears” as they discussed: Their kids going back to school on different days

The paper straws at Starbucks

Servers who don’t write down your order

Servers who kneel on the ground to take your order

Slow drive-thru lines   

(34:48-44:34): What valuable lessons can we learn from college freshmen? Brian and Aubrey talked about this and they discussed Liam Adams’ Christianity Today article, “Headed Back to College, Evangelical Students Are Eager to Talk about Race—and Listen.”

(44:34-1:02:44): Collin Hansen,Vice President for Content & Editor in Chief of The Gospel Coalition, Host of the Gospelbound podcast, and Coauthor of “Gospelbound: Living with Resolute Hope in an Anxious Age,” joined Brian and Aubrey to chat about his new book “Rediscover Church: Why the Body of Christ Is Essential” and his New York Times opinion essay, “What We Lose When We Livestream Church.”

If you’re a church leader, learn more about requesting your copies of “Rediscover Church” at thegospelcoalition.org

Connect with Collin on Twitter at @collinhansen  

(1:02:44-1:11:19): Brian and Aubrey shared some encouraging tweets to close the show.

Lesslie Newbigin - “The best apologetic of the Gospel is a church that believes it, lives it, and proclaims it.”

Jennifer Dukes Lee - Do you want to share Jesus with the world in the coming week? Simply take those beautiful feet of yours and walk the path with others. Serve. Bow low. Give. Slow down and really be present with people. Offer comfort, even at your own discomfort. Love. With simple acts of service, people will see Jesus alive in you. Your life will preach a sermon even when your lips aren’t moving. "The Scriptures say it is a beautiful sight to see even the feet of someone coming to preach the good news." Romans 10:15

Rev. Dr. Glenn Packiam - We think of salvation as being from a place— from hell or earth.But Paul speaks of salvation being not from a place but from a time— from this present evil age. Even though this present age continues, Christians belong to the Age to Come. We live in a different time zone.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

(00:00-8:29): Brian and Aubrey talked about the chaos in Afghanistan as U.S. Forces leave the country. They also discussed how to pray for Afghanistan and other places in crisis.  

“Afghans scale walls, rush tarmac in frenzy to flee as Kabul wakes to Taliban takeover” 

“How to Pray for Afghanistan—and the Taliban”

(8:29-17:10): Brian and Aubrey talked about Aubrey’s family vacation and they discussed the importance of rest. 

(17:10-26:21): “How Do Churches End Up with Domineering Bullies for Pastors?” Brian and Aubrey commented on Sam Allberry’s Gospel Coalition article and chatted about the recent episode of “The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill.” 

(26:21-34:48): Brian and Aubrey shared what “Grinds their Gears” as they discussed: Their kids going back to school on different days

The paper straws at Starbucks

Servers who don’t write down your order

Servers who kneel on the ground to take your order

Slow drive-thru lines   

(34:48-44:34): What valuable lessons can we learn from college freshmen? Brian and Aubrey talked about this and they discussed Liam Adams’ Christianity Today article, “Headed Back to College, Evangelical Students Are Eager to Talk about Race—and Listen.”

(44:34-1:02:44): Collin Hansen,Vice President for Content & Editor in Chief of The Gospel Coalition, Host of the Gospelbound podcast, and Coauthor of “Gospelbound: Living with Resolute Hope in an Anxious Age,” joined Brian and Aubrey to chat about his new book “Rediscover Church: Why the Body of Christ Is Essential” and his New York Times opinion essay, “What We Lose When We Livestream Church.”

If you’re a church leader, learn more about requesting your copies of “Rediscover Church” at thegospelcoalition.org

Connect with Collin on Twitter at @collinhansen  

(1:02:44-1:11:19): Brian and Aubrey shared some encouraging tweets to close the show.

Lesslie Newbigin - “The best apologetic of the Gospel is a church that believes it, lives it, and proclaims it.”

Jennifer Dukes Lee - Do you want to share Jesus with the world in the coming week? Simply take those beautiful feet of yours and walk the path with others. Serve. Bow low. Give. Slow down and really be present with people. Offer comfort, even at your own discomfort. Love. With simple acts of service, people will see Jesus alive in you. Your life will preach a sermon even when your lips aren’t moving. "The Scriptures say it is a beautiful sight to see even the feet of someone coming to preach the good news." Romans 10:15

Rev. Dr. Glenn Packiam - We think of salvation as being from a place— from hell or earth.But Paul speaks of salvation being not from a place but from a time— from this present evil age. Even though this present age continues, Christians belong to the Age to Come. We live in a different time zone.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

(00:00-8:42): Who does our culture hold up as “representatives” of Christianity? Brian discussed this and commented on Ed Stetzer’s Religion News Service opinion article, “Feucht, Locke and the like are a sideshow — quit letting them distract you.”

(8:42-26:09): Bob Smietana, veteran religion writer and National Reporter for Religion News Service, joined Brian to chat about some of his recent articles. 

“She wanted to help Ravi Zacharias save the world but ended up defending an abuser”

“Class-action lawsuit claims RZIM misled donors, covered up Ravi Zacharias’ abuse”

“David Platt’s dreams for McLean Bible Church sour as members file lawsuit over elder vote”

Check out Bob’s articles at religionnews.com and connect with Bob on Twitter at @bobsmietana

(26:09-33:48): How can we be a “Non Anxious Presence in the Face of Criticism?” Brian shared his thoughts on Charles Stone’s Churchleaders.com article. 

(33:48-41:39): Brian commented on the following news stories:

“New Prayer Tool for Facebook Groups Draws Praise and Doubts”

“Will state lift penalty after Timothy Christian schools agree to require masking?”

(41:39-50:18): Richard Buckley, Regional Vice President for Corporate Chaplains of America, joined Brian to talk about the ministry of Corporate Chaplains of America. 

Learn more about Corporate Chaplains of America at chaplain.org

(50:18-58:50): Brian discussed a clip from the Desiring God video, “Living the Mystery of Joy in Suffering.”

(58:50-1:07:35): Brian shared encouragement from a Tweet by Christine Caine.  

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

(00:00-8:42): Who does our culture hold up as “representatives” of Christianity? Brian discussed this and commented on Ed Stetzer’s Religion News Service opinion article, “Feucht, Locke and the like are a sideshow — quit letting them distract you.”

(8:42-26:09): Bob Smietana, veteran religion writer and National Reporter for Religion News Service, joined Brian to chat about some of his recent articles. 

“She wanted to help Ravi Zacharias save the world but ended up defending an abuser”

“Class-action lawsuit claims RZIM misled donors, covered up Ravi Zacharias’ abuse”

“David Platt’s dreams for McLean Bible Church sour as members file lawsuit over elder vote”

Check out Bob’s articles at religionnews.com and connect with Bob on Twitter at @bobsmietana

(26:09-33:48): How can we be a “Non Anxious Presence in the Face of Criticism?” Brian shared his thoughts on Charles Stone’s Churchleaders.com article. 

(33:48-41:39): Brian commented on the following news stories:

“New Prayer Tool for Facebook Groups Draws Praise and Doubts”

“Will state lift penalty after Timothy Christian schools agree to require masking?”

(41:39-50:18): Richard Buckley, Regional Vice President for Corporate Chaplains of America, joined Brian to talk about the ministry of Corporate Chaplains of America. 

Learn more about Corporate Chaplains of America at chaplain.org

(50:18-58:50): Brian discussed a clip from the Desiring God video, “Living the Mystery of Joy in Suffering.”

(58:50-1:07:35): Brian shared encouragement from a Tweet by Christine Caine.  

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.