(00:00-09:45): Brian was joined by guest co-host, Aubrey Sampson! Aubrey is Pastor of discipleship and equipping at Renewal Church, Co-Host of the Nothing is Wasted Podcast, and Author of Overcomer: Breaking Down the Walls of Shame and Rebuilding Your Soul, The Louder Song: Listening for Hope in the Midst of Lament, and the upcoming book Known: How Believing Who God Says You Are Changes Everything.

Brian and Aubrey chatted about Bob Smietana’s Religion News Service article, “SBC President J.D. Greear: ‘God did not call Southern Baptists to save America’.” 

(09:45-20:02): Tara Goodman, Lead Pastor of Capital Church, joined Brian and Aubrey to chat about their Easter Sunrise Service at the Lincoln Memorial. Capital Church has been doing the Easter Sunrise Service for over 40 years! 

Learn more about Tara and Capital Church at capitalchurch.org

Learn more about the Easter Sunrise Service at eastersunrise.com

(20:02-29:22): Aubrey shared about Michael, a 26 year old member of her church who passed away due to complications from COVID-19. Brian and Aubrey also discussed how they encourage their congregations after an unexpected loss or tragedy. 

(29:33-39:17): Brian and Aubrey shared their thoughts on the following tweets:

Aubrey Sampson’s tweet about Braveheart

Rich Villodas’s tweet about polarizing issues

Eugene Cho’s tweet about civility, respect, humility, and passion

(39:17-48:46): Brian and Aubrey chatted about Emily McFarlan Miller’s Religion News Service article, “Author Shauna Niequist apologizes for her silence following allegations against father, Bill Hybels.” They also discussed Julie Roys’ article for The Roys Report, “Director of Zacharias Institute & His Wife Issue Apology: ‘We are so very, very sorry’.”

(48:46-1:07:13): Chris Sonksen, Lead Pastor of South Hills Church, Founder of Church Boom and Author of Quit Church and When Your Church Feels Stuck, joined Brian and Aubrey to chat about his new book, Indispensable Church: Powerful Ways to Flood Your Community with Love.

Learn more about Chris and his books at chrissonksen.com

(1:07:13-1:15:56): Brian and Aubrey shared their thoughts on the Inc. article, “5 Lessons Most People Learn Way Too Late in Life.” 

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(00:00-09:45): Brian was joined by guest co-host, Aubrey Sampson! Aubrey is Pastor of discipleship and equipping at Renewal Church, Co-Host of the Nothing is Wasted Podcast, and Author of Overcomer: Breaking Down the Walls of Shame and Rebuilding Your Soul, The Louder Song: Listening for Hope in the Midst of Lament, and the upcoming book Known: How Believing Who God Says You Are Changes Everything.

Brian and Aubrey chatted about Bob Smietana’s Religion News Service article, “SBC President J.D. Greear: ‘God did not call Southern Baptists to save America’.” 

(09:45-20:02): Tara Goodman, Lead Pastor of Capital Church, joined Brian and Aubrey to chat about their Easter Sunrise Service at the Lincoln Memorial. Capital Church has been doing the Easter Sunrise Service for over 40 years! 

Learn more about Tara and Capital Church at capitalchurch.org

Learn more about the Easter Sunrise Service at eastersunrise.com

(20:02-29:22): Aubrey shared about Michael, a 26 year old member of her church who passed away due to complications from COVID-19. Brian and Aubrey also discussed how they encourage their congregations after an unexpected loss or tragedy. 

(29:33-39:17): Brian and Aubrey shared their thoughts on the following tweets:

Aubrey Sampson’s tweet about Braveheart

Rich Villodas’s tweet about polarizing issues

Eugene Cho’s tweet about civility, respect, humility, and passion

(39:17-48:46): Brian and Aubrey chatted about Emily McFarlan Miller’s Religion News Service article, “Author Shauna Niequist apologizes for her silence following allegations against father, Bill Hybels.” They also discussed Julie Roys’ article for The Roys Report, “Director of Zacharias Institute & His Wife Issue Apology: ‘We are so very, very sorry’.”

(48:46-1:07:13): Chris Sonksen, Lead Pastor of South Hills Church, Founder of Church Boom and Author of Quit Church and When Your Church Feels Stuck, joined Brian and Aubrey to chat about his new book, Indispensable Church: Powerful Ways to Flood Your Community with Love.

Learn more about Chris and his books at chrissonksen.com

(1:07:13-1:15:56): Brian and Aubrey shared their thoughts on the Inc. article, “5 Lessons Most People Learn Way Too Late in Life.” 

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(00:00-09:12):  Brian was joined for a second day by guest co-host, Ashley Herr. Brian and Ashley chatted about Bob Smietana’s Religion News Service article, “SBC President J.D. Greear: ‘God did not call Southern Baptists to save America’,” and Kate Shellnutt’s Christianity Today article, “Southern Baptists Expel Two More Churches Over Abuse.”     

(09:12-19:05): Brian and Ashley discussed Milton Quintanilla’s ChristianHeadlines.com article, “Amazon Removes Book Critical of Transgenderism ahead of Equality Act Vote.”          

(19:05-28:49): Brian and Ashley shared their thoughts on Peter Manseau’s Washington Post article, “His pastors tried to steer him away from social media rage. He stormed the Capitol anyway.”   

(28:49-38:46): Brian and Ashley commented on Trevin Wax’s Gospel Coalition article, “The State of Church Attendance as Covid Turns One.”   

(38:46-48:25): Brian and Ashley chatted about how pastors determine what topics they want to discuss from the pulpit. They also shared how they deal with people feeling like their pastor crossed the line.  

(48:25-1:06:51): Brett McCracken, Senior Editor for The Gospel Coalition and author of Hipster Christianity, Gray Matters, and Uncomfortable: The Awkward and Essential Challenge of Christian Community, joined Brian and Ashley to chat about his new book, The Wisdom Pyramid: Feeding Your Soul in a Post-Truth World.

Find Brett on Twitter at @brettmccracken

Learn more about Brett and his books at his website, brettmccracken.com

(1:06:51-1:16:37): Brian and Ashley shared their thoughts on Tim Challies’ blog post, “Homesick.”   

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(00:00-09:12):  Brian was joined for a second day by guest co-host, Ashley Herr. Brian and Ashley chatted about Bob Smietana’s Religion News Service article, “SBC President J.D. Greear: ‘God did not call Southern Baptists to save America’,” and Kate Shellnutt’s Christianity Today article, “Southern Baptists Expel Two More Churches Over Abuse.”     

(09:12-19:05): Brian and Ashley discussed Milton Quintanilla’s ChristianHeadlines.com article, “Amazon Removes Book Critical of Transgenderism ahead of Equality Act Vote.”          

(19:05-28:49): Brian and Ashley shared their thoughts on Peter Manseau’s Washington Post article, “His pastors tried to steer him away from social media rage. He stormed the Capitol anyway.”   

(28:49-38:46): Brian and Ashley commented on Trevin Wax’s Gospel Coalition article, “The State of Church Attendance as Covid Turns One.”   

(38:46-48:25): Brian and Ashley chatted about how pastors determine what topics they want to discuss from the pulpit. They also shared how they deal with people feeling like their pastor crossed the line.  

(48:25-1:06:51): Brett McCracken, Senior Editor for The Gospel Coalition and author of Hipster Christianity, Gray Matters, and Uncomfortable: The Awkward and Essential Challenge of Christian Community, joined Brian and Ashley to chat about his new book, The Wisdom Pyramid: Feeding Your Soul in a Post-Truth World.

Find Brett on Twitter at @brettmccracken

Learn more about Brett and his books at his website, brettmccracken.com

(1:06:51-1:16:37): Brian and Ashley shared their thoughts on Tim Challies’ blog post, “Homesick.”   

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(00:00-09:07): Brian welcomed guest co-host, Ashley Herr to the show! Ashley is the Lead Pastor of Redemption Bible Church.    

(09:07-19:26): Brian and Ashley commented on the response to Kelly O'Donnell’s tweet about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez going to Houston to announce that more than $3 million has been raised to assist 10 organizations for Texans in crisis.

(19:26-29:01): Brian and Ashley discussed Sasha Abramsky’s article for The Nation, “West Coast States’ Failure to Reopen Schools Is a Disaster.”     

(29:01-38:35): “Why Is Our Activism So Mean?” Brian and Ashley shared their thoughts on Daniel Darling’s ChristianHeadlines.com article.       

(38:35-48:22): Brian and Ashley chatted about Boyd Matheson’s Deseret News opinion article, “Dancing on the grave of Rush Limbaugh? Time to confront America’s culture of contempt.”       

(48:22-57:51): Brian and Ashley discussed Jason Murdock’s Newsweek article, “Bill Gates Defends Using Private Jets While Warning about Dangers of Climate Change.” They also chatted about whether the imperfect message of Bill Gates and of church leaders discredits the messengers.      

(57:51-1:08:26): Brian and Ashley shared their thoughts on Randy Alcorn’s Eternal Perspective Ministries’ blog post, “Christian Leaders Need Accountability to Guard Our Lives and Ministries.”    

(1:08:26-1:17:38): Brian and Ashley commented on Scott Sauls’ tweet about Christians falling “short of the mark.”

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(00:00-09:07): Brian welcomed guest co-host, Ashley Herr to the show! Ashley is the Lead Pastor of Redemption Bible Church.    

(09:07-19:26): Brian and Ashley commented on the response to Kelly O'Donnell’s tweet about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez going to Houston to announce that more than $3 million has been raised to assist 10 organizations for Texans in crisis.

(19:26-29:01): Brian and Ashley discussed Sasha Abramsky’s article for The Nation, “West Coast States’ Failure to Reopen Schools Is a Disaster.”     

(29:01-38:35): “Why Is Our Activism So Mean?” Brian and Ashley shared their thoughts on Daniel Darling’s ChristianHeadlines.com article.       

(38:35-48:22): Brian and Ashley chatted about Boyd Matheson’s Deseret News opinion article, “Dancing on the grave of Rush Limbaugh? Time to confront America’s culture of contempt.”       

(48:22-57:51): Brian and Ashley discussed Jason Murdock’s Newsweek article, “Bill Gates Defends Using Private Jets While Warning about Dangers of Climate Change.” They also chatted about whether the imperfect message of Bill Gates and of church leaders discredits the messengers.      

(57:51-1:08:26): Brian and Ashley shared their thoughts on Randy Alcorn’s Eternal Perspective Ministries’ blog post, “Christian Leaders Need Accountability to Guard Our Lives and Ministries.”    

(1:08:26-1:17:38): Brian and Ashley commented on Scott Sauls’ tweet about Christians falling “short of the mark.”

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(00:00-09:51): Brian reacted to Daniel Arkin’s NBC News article, “U.S. reaches 500,000 deaths from the coronavirus.” He also commented on Marty Makary’s Wall Street Journal opinion article, “We’ll Have Herd Immunity by April.”    

(09:51-28:50): Dr. Scot McKnight, world-renowned speaker, writer, professor, and the Julius R. Mantey Chair of New Testament at Northern Seminary, joined Brian to chat about his book, A Church Called Tov: Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing. 

Learn more about Scot and his books at his blog, Jesus Creed.  

(28:50-38:10): Brian shared his thoughts on Lauren Chastain’s tweet about Eric Metaxas.  

(38:10-47:02): Brian reacted to David French’s blog post at The French Press, “Rush Limbaugh and the Right’s Generational Despair.”

(47:02-1:04:29): Jen Pollock Michel, award-winning author of Teach Us to Want, Keeping Place, and Surprised by Paradox, joined Brian to chat about her new book, A Habit Called Faith: 40 Days in the Bible to Find and Follow Jesus. 

Jen is also the lead editor for Imprint magazine, published by The Grace Centre for the Arts. You can learn more about Jen and her books at her website, jenpollockmichel.com 

(1:04:29-1:12:59): Brian shared his thoughts on the Goalcast video that Jac Collinsworth shared on Twitter. 

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(00:00-09:51): Brian reacted to Daniel Arkin’s NBC News article, “U.S. reaches 500,000 deaths from the coronavirus.” He also commented on Marty Makary’s Wall Street Journal opinion article, “We’ll Have Herd Immunity by April.”    

(09:51-28:50): Dr. Scot McKnight, world-renowned speaker, writer, professor, and the Julius R. Mantey Chair of New Testament at Northern Seminary, joined Brian to chat about his book, A Church Called Tov: Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing. 

Learn more about Scot and his books at his blog, Jesus Creed.  

(28:50-38:10): Brian shared his thoughts on Lauren Chastain’s tweet about Eric Metaxas.  

(38:10-47:02): Brian reacted to David French’s blog post at The French Press, “Rush Limbaugh and the Right’s Generational Despair.”

(47:02-1:04:29): Jen Pollock Michel, award-winning author of Teach Us to Want, Keeping Place, and Surprised by Paradox, joined Brian to chat about her new book, A Habit Called Faith: 40 Days in the Bible to Find and Follow Jesus. 

Jen is also the lead editor for Imprint magazine, published by The Grace Centre for the Arts. You can learn more about Jen and her books at her website, jenpollockmichel.com 

(1:04:29-1:12:59): Brian shared his thoughts on the Goalcast video that Jac Collinsworth shared on Twitter. 

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(00:00-09:13): Brian was joined for a second day by guest co-host, Steve Coble. Brian and Steve chatted about Lucas Manfredi’s Fox News article, “NASA's Perseverance rover lands on Mars.” They also reacted to Rebecca Shabad’s NBC News article, “'Obviously a mistake': Sen. Ted Cruz says he regrets going to Cancún while Texans froze.”    

(09:13-26:56): Dr. Matthew Kim, the George F. Bennett Chair in Practical Theology,  Associate Professor of Preaching & Ministry, and Director of the Haddon W. Robinson Center for Preaching at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, joined Brian and Steve to chat about his books, 7 Lessons for New Pastors and Preaching to People in Pain: How Suffering Can Shape Your Sermons and Connect with Your Congregation.

You can connect with Dr. Kim on Twitter at @matthewdkim  

(26:56-36:32): Brian and Steve shared their thoughts on Ameen Hudson’s article for The Front Porch, “Jesus and the Vulnerability of Friendship.”      

(36:32-45:43) Brian and Steve chatted about the powerful PBS series, “The Black Church: This Is Our Story, This is Our Song.” They also discussed Bill Keveney’s USA TODAY article, “PBS' Black church documentary celebrates hope, strength amid oppression, with plenty of music.” 

(45:43-55:29): Brian and Steve commented on Peggy Drexler’s CNN opinion article, “The real lesson of Adam Kinzinger's angry relatives.”   

(55:29-1:06:05): Brian and Steve shared their thoughts on Elizabeth McKinney and Chris McKinney’s Gospel Coalition article, “It’s Never Just a Wave.”     

(1:06:05-1:15:27): Brian and Steve unpacked Kate Shellnutt’s Christianity Today article, “In Essentials, Unity. In Conspiracy Theories, Truth.”  

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(00:00-09:13): Brian was joined for a second day by guest co-host, Steve Coble. Brian and Steve chatted about Lucas Manfredi’s Fox News article, “NASA's Perseverance rover lands on Mars.” They also reacted to Rebecca Shabad’s NBC News article, “'Obviously a mistake': Sen. Ted Cruz says he regrets going to Cancún while Texans froze.”    

(09:13-26:56): Dr. Matthew Kim, the George F. Bennett Chair in Practical Theology,  Associate Professor of Preaching & Ministry, and Director of the Haddon W. Robinson Center for Preaching at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, joined Brian and Steve to chat about his books, 7 Lessons for New Pastors and Preaching to People in Pain: How Suffering Can Shape Your Sermons and Connect with Your Congregation.

You can connect with Dr. Kim on Twitter at @matthewdkim  

(26:56-36:32): Brian and Steve shared their thoughts on Ameen Hudson’s article for The Front Porch, “Jesus and the Vulnerability of Friendship.”      

(36:32-45:43) Brian and Steve chatted about the powerful PBS series, “The Black Church: This Is Our Story, This is Our Song.” They also discussed Bill Keveney’s USA TODAY article, “PBS' Black church documentary celebrates hope, strength amid oppression, with plenty of music.” 

(45:43-55:29): Brian and Steve commented on Peggy Drexler’s CNN opinion article, “The real lesson of Adam Kinzinger's angry relatives.”   

(55:29-1:06:05): Brian and Steve shared their thoughts on Elizabeth McKinney and Chris McKinney’s Gospel Coalition article, “It’s Never Just a Wave.”     

(1:06:05-1:15:27): Brian and Steve unpacked Kate Shellnutt’s Christianity Today article, “In Essentials, Unity. In Conspiracy Theories, Truth.”  

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