(00:00-9:35): Brian and Ian talked about the conversation they are both having in their churches about how and when they should re-open.

(09:35-18:23): Ruth Graham is a staff writer for Slate reporting on religion. She joined Brian and Ian to talk about how COVID-19 has impacted small and medium-sized churches specifically and what re-opening will look like.

(18:23-27:37): Brian and Ian talked about the spiritual discipline of “Pace” and how people are using free time during the shutdown.

(27:37-36:40): Brian and Ian shared some good news, and also weighed in on John Krasinski selling his viral good news YouTube series.

(36:40-47:00): Brian and Ian reacted to the George Floyd story out of Minneapolis and talked about what we can do to help improve the situation.

(47:00-57:35): What do you do when you feel discouraged by the politicization of everything surrounding the COVID-19 outbreak.

(57:35-1:07:50): Brian and Ian shared their reaction to an essay by Richard lints about church unity

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(00:00-9:35): Brian and Ian talked about the conversation they are both having in their churches about how and when they should re-open.

(09:35-18:23): Ruth Graham is a staff writer for Slate reporting on religion. She joined Brian and Ian to talk about how COVID-19 has impacted small and medium-sized churches specifically and what re-opening will look like.

(18:23-27:37): Brian and Ian talked about the spiritual discipline of “Pace” and how people are using free time during the shutdown.

(27:37-36:40): Brian and Ian shared some good news, and also weighed in on John Krasinski selling his viral good news YouTube series.

(36:40-47:00): Brian and Ian reacted to the George Floyd story out of Minneapolis and talked about what we can do to help improve the situation.

(47:00-57:35): What do you do when you feel discouraged by the politicization of everything surrounding the COVID-19 outbreak.

(57:35-1:07:50): Brian and Ian shared their reaction to an essay by Richard lints about church unity

(1:07:50-1:14:27): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”

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(00:00-09:21): President Trump on Friday ordered governors to allow houses of worship to open immediately, declaring them “essential” to American life during COVID-19. Brian and Ian shared their reaction and talked about what it will mean for their churches.

(09:21-19:09): Is the coronavirus outbreak accelerating the process of “de-churching” America? Brian and Ian shared their thoughts. 

(19:09-28:37): Louis Dooley is a former prisoner with two life sentences and author of “Prison Saved My Life.” He joined Brian and Ian to talk about a new initiative he is starting to help people pray together during the COVID-19 shutdown.

(28:37-37:45): Brian and Ian talked about the issue of “Pastoral Burnout” and shared a few tips for avoiding it.

(37:45-48:07): Actress Lori Loughlin and her husband Mossimo Giannulli both entered guilty pleas on a Zoom call on Friday. They will serve two and five months in prison respectively. 

(48:07-58:29): Brian and Ian took a break from all of the COVID-19 talk to share some good news.

(58:29-1:08:45): How do churches deal with grief? Brian and Ian discussed a piece by Clarissa Moll for Christianity Today.

(1:08:45-1:15:58): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”

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(00:00-09:21): President Trump on Friday ordered governors to allow houses of worship to open immediately, declaring them “essential” to American life during COVID-19. Brian and Ian shared their reaction and talked about what it will mean for their churches.

(09:21-19:09): Is the coronavirus outbreak accelerating the process of “de-churching” America? Brian and Ian shared their thoughts. 

(19:09-28:37): Louis Dooley is a former prisoner with two life sentences and author of “Prison Saved My Life.” He joined Brian and Ian to talk about a new initiative he is starting to help people pray together during the COVID-19 shutdown.

(28:37-37:45): Brian and Ian talked about the issue of “Pastoral Burnout” and shared a few tips for avoiding it.

(37:45-48:07): Actress Lori Loughlin and her husband Mossimo Giannulli both entered guilty pleas on a Zoom call on Friday. They will serve two and five months in prison respectively. 

(48:07-58:29): Brian and Ian took a break from all of the COVID-19 talk to share some good news.

(58:29-1:08:45): How do churches deal with grief? Brian and Ian discussed a piece by Clarissa Moll for Christianity Today.

(1:08:45-1:15:58): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”

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(00:00-09:07): The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has released a 60-page report outlining detailed guidelines for schools, restaurants and mass transit systems looking to reopen, as many states move to ease coronavirus restrictions.

(09:07-18:28): Rich Lowry in Politico says It’s OK to Acknowledge Good COVID news. Brian and Ian shared their thoughts.

(18:28-27:56): Warren Anderson is the Director of the Demoss Center for Worship in the Performing Arts at Judson University. He joined Brian and Ian to talk about his piece “A Sonnet for Coronavirus Victims” and what it’s like dealing with all of the loss associated with the COVID-19 outbreak.

(27:56-37:36): Norma McCorvey, most notable for being the plaintiff known as Jane Roe in the 1973 landmark supreme court case Roe v Wade that led to abortion becoming legal in the United States, made a stunning admission just before her death in 2017. She said her infamous reversal on abortion rights “was all an act” Brian and Ian shared their reaction.

(37:36-47:56): Today is Ascension Day! Brian and Ian talked about the history of the holiday, and whether or not it should play a larger role in Evangelical life.

(47:56-58:56): What are the traits of a good leader? Brian and Ian shared their reaction to comments from Simon Sinek

(58:56-1:08:13): What effect will missing school and interacting with other kids on the playground have on kids growing up in the aftermath of the COVID-19 outbreak?

(1:08:13-1:14:54): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”

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(00:00-09:07): The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has released a 60-page report outlining detailed guidelines for schools, restaurants and mass transit systems looking to reopen, as many states move to ease coronavirus restrictions.

(09:07-18:28): Rich Lowry in Politico says It’s OK to Acknowledge Good COVID news. Brian and Ian shared their thoughts.

(18:28-27:56): Warren Anderson is the Director of the Demoss Center for Worship in the Performing Arts at Judson University. He joined Brian and Ian to talk about his piece “A Sonnet for Coronavirus Victims” and what it’s like dealing with all of the loss associated with the COVID-19 outbreak.

(27:56-37:36): Norma McCorvey, most notable for being the plaintiff known as Jane Roe in the 1973 landmark supreme court case Roe v Wade that led to abortion becoming legal in the United States, made a stunning admission just before her death in 2017. She said her infamous reversal on abortion rights “was all an act” Brian and Ian shared their reaction.

(37:36-47:56): Today is Ascension Day! Brian and Ian talked about the history of the holiday, and whether or not it should play a larger role in Evangelical life.

(47:56-58:56): What are the traits of a good leader? Brian and Ian shared their reaction to comments from Simon Sinek

(58:56-1:08:13): What effect will missing school and interacting with other kids on the playground have on kids growing up in the aftermath of the COVID-19 outbreak?

(1:08:13-1:14:54): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”

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(00:00-09:15): The COVID-19 outbreak has dominated the news. Brian and Ian spent a few minutes focusing on the other stories that haven’t gotten much attention because of the virus.

(09:15-17:57): Francis Collins is a world-renowned geneticist and director of the National Institutes of Health, is the 2020 recipient of the Templeton Prize. The award honors individuals who use scientific advancements to answer the deepest questions related to humanity’s existence and purpose. Collins is a scientist who came to faith. Brian and Ian talked about the relationship between faith and science.

(17:57-27:21): Brian and Ian played two new games: “Taylor Swift lyric or Lamentations” and “Tolkien Character or Antidepressant.”

(27:21-39:16): Pastor Brian Lowery had a unique reaction to the Bulls documentary The Last Dance. Brian and Ian talked about the ethics of cheering for a person when you don’t agree with their morality.

(39:16-49:37): Brian and Ian talked about a William Vanderbloemen article focusing on how small churches can deal with re-opening after the outbreak

(49:37-1:01:22): David A.R. White is an actor and founding partner of Pure Flix Entertainment the number one indie faith and family entertainment studio. He joined Brian and Ian to talk about modern Christian media and what it was like telling his mennonite family that he was going to Hollywood. 

(1:01:22-1:11:33): Brian and Ian talked about a piece by Jay Kim on lessons that can be learned from the COVID-19 outbreak.

(1:11:33-1:18:51): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”

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(00:00-09:15): The COVID-19 outbreak has dominated the news. Brian and Ian spent a few minutes focusing on the other stories that haven’t gotten much attention because of the virus.

(09:15-17:57): Francis Collins is a world-renowned geneticist and director of the National Institutes of Health, is the 2020 recipient of the Templeton Prize. The award honors individuals who use scientific advancements to answer the deepest questions related to humanity’s existence and purpose. Collins is a scientist who came to faith. Brian and Ian talked about the relationship between faith and science.

(17:57-27:21): Brian and Ian played two new games: “Taylor Swift lyric or Lamentations” and “Tolkien Character or Antidepressant.”

(27:21-39:16): Pastor Brian Lowery had a unique reaction to the Bulls documentary The Last Dance. Brian and Ian talked about the ethics of cheering for a person when you don’t agree with their morality.

(39:16-49:37): Brian and Ian talked about a William Vanderbloemen article focusing on how small churches can deal with re-opening after the outbreak

(49:37-1:01:22): David A.R. White is an actor and founding partner of Pure Flix Entertainment the number one indie faith and family entertainment studio. He joined Brian and Ian to talk about modern Christian media and what it was like telling his mennonite family that he was going to Hollywood. 

(1:01:22-1:11:33): Brian and Ian talked about a piece by Jay Kim on lessons that can be learned from the COVID-19 outbreak.

(1:11:33-1:18:51): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”

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(00:00-09:51): Brian and Ian shared their thoughts on the passing of Christian Apologist Ravi Zacharias.

(09:51-19:02): New data suggests 42% of the jobs lost due to the pandemic might be permanent. Brian and Ian talked about how churches can help people of those predictions turn out to be true.

(19:02-28:36): Actor and comedian Russell Brand posted a video online about the recent spike in Google searches about prayer. Brian and Ian shared their reaction. 

(28:36-37:51): Why are we allowed to go to Wal-Mart but not church? Kevin Thompson has written a piece that tackles that controversial topic.

(37:51-48:20): The question of safety versus the economy in the COVID-19 outbreak is not as black and white as it may seem. Brian and Ian took a look at a piece by Kim Mack that takes a look at both perspectives. 

(48:20-58:58): Is the church still the church when you can’t gather in person? Brian and Ian reacted to a video by Pastor Michael Fuelling on the question of obeying government rules against gatherings including church services.

(58:58-1:09:33): Brian and Ian took a break from the COVID-19 talk to share some good news.

(1:09:33-1:16:08): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”

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(00:00-09:51): Brian and Ian shared their thoughts on the passing of Christian Apologist Ravi Zacharias.

(09:51-19:02): New data suggests 42% of the jobs lost due to the pandemic might be permanent. Brian and Ian talked about how churches can help people of those predictions turn out to be true.

(19:02-28:36): Actor and comedian Russell Brand posted a video online about the recent spike in Google searches about prayer. Brian and Ian shared their reaction. 

(28:36-37:51): Why are we allowed to go to Wal-Mart but not church? Kevin Thompson has written a piece that tackles that controversial topic.

(37:51-48:20): The question of safety versus the economy in the COVID-19 outbreak is not as black and white as it may seem. Brian and Ian took a look at a piece by Kim Mack that takes a look at both perspectives. 

(48:20-58:58): Is the church still the church when you can’t gather in person? Brian and Ian reacted to a video by Pastor Michael Fuelling on the question of obeying government rules against gatherings including church services.

(58:58-1:09:33): Brian and Ian took a break from the COVID-19 talk to share some good news.

(1:09:33-1:16:08): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”

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