(00:00-08:54): Kirk Franklin: ‘Kumbaya moments’ are not enough for better race relations. Brian and Ian refer to Franklin’s remarks from the Dove award debacle, and now he is talking with the president of TBN in a conversation on race. 

(08:54-18:24): In response to #OkBoomer, Anne Kennedy writes “#OkMillennial, Church Is Still About Jesus” in Patheos. She touches on the importance of remaining constant. 

(18:24-27:50): In the history of humankind, few people have been as misquoted as Jesus. Michael Hidalgo writes in Relevant “4 Things Jesus Never Said”. Brian and Ian reflect on it. 

(27:50-37:29): Perhaps, against popular belief, community shouldn’t be sought after. Eugene Park writes “The Folly of ‘Looking for Community’” in The Gospel Coalition. Brian and Ian discuss this and reflect. 

(38:25-47:58): We spend this segment discussing some news of Christians in India and in Iran. Mikaela Mathews writes “Christians in Iran Boldly Proclaim Testimonies on Satellite TV” in Christian Headlines. Also, “Christian Leader in Madhya Pradesh, India Run Over by Motorcycles, Sources Say”. 

(47:58-58:40): Awesome story: These Bikers Escort Child Victims To Court To Confront Their Abusers—And Give The Kids Cool Nicknames. Brian and Ian talk about how hard it must be for abuse victims to testify, and how these bikers deserve immense recognition. 

(58:40-1:09:17): Jessica Robyn Provencher writes “Parents, Your Kids Need Big Theology.” in Core Christianity. Brian and Ian reflect on how the next generation views God and maybe don’t reflect enough on his power. 

(1:10:21-1:17:15): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”

(00:00-09:05): Michael Foust writes “Trump: 'You Can't Turn Your Cheek' When Attacked as President or You'll Lose” in Christian Headlines. Brian and Ian talk about this famous quote in the Bible, and how it may not mean exactly what we think it does. 

(09:05-18:30): Yes, Christianity Is a Religion, Not Just a Relationship. The rituals and organization play necessary roles. Brian and Ian talk about this concept of religious-less Christianity, and how it isn’t the correct way of viewing it. 

(18:30-27:54): Watch Ben Affleck Talk About Faith and Doubt With Erwin McManus. Brian and Ian listen to the actor’s remarks on approaching God and seeking him out. 

(27:54-37:25): Biblical Literalism among American Protestants. Pastors, denominational leaders, and curious Christians need to be reassured—American Christianity is not becoming more liberal. 

(38:22-48:39): Karl Persson writes in Patheos “Mental Illness and and the Darkness of Lent”. Brian and Ian reflect on this thought-provoking perspective on the season of Lent. 

(48:39-1:09:17): We are joined by the co-founder and president of True Justice League, Abigail Robert. She is a Junior at Naperville Christian Academy and has chosen to take extra-curricular activities to the next level by fighting human trafficking. They are hosting an event called “Breaking the Chains of Human Trafficking”. 

(1:10:21-1:17:09): Brian and Ian “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”

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(00:00-09:05): Michael Foust writes “Trump: 'You Can't Turn Your Cheek' When Attacked as President or You'll Lose” in Christian Headlines. Brian and Ian talk about this famous quote in the Bible, and how it may not mean exactly what we think it does. 

(09:05-18:30): Yes, Christianity Is a Religion, Not Just a Relationship. The rituals and organization play necessary roles. Brian and Ian talk about this concept of religious-less Christianity, and how it isn’t the correct way of viewing it. 

(18:30-27:54): Watch Ben Affleck Talk About Faith and Doubt With Erwin McManus. Brian and Ian listen to the actor’s remarks on approaching God and seeking him out. 

(27:54-37:25): Biblical Literalism among American Protestants. Pastors, denominational leaders, and curious Christians need to be reassured—American Christianity is not becoming more liberal. 

(38:22-48:39): Karl Persson writes in Patheos “Mental Illness and and the Darkness of Lent”. Brian and Ian reflect on this thought-provoking perspective on the season of Lent. 

(48:39-1:09:17): We are joined by the co-founder and president of True Justice League, Abigail Robert. She is a Junior at Naperville Christian Academy and has chosen to take extra-curricular activities to the next level by fighting human trafficking. They are hosting an event called “Breaking the Chains of Human Trafficking”. 

(1:10:21-1:17:09): Brian and Ian “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”

(00:00-09:45): Brian and Ian touch on several articles about how to handle and respond to the Coronavirus as Christiains. A church in Germany was exposed to the virus, so the pastor was quarantined. What does Martin Luther teach us about caring for the sick? 

(09:45-19:21): The guys discuss “#OkBoomer: 10 Signs Your Weekend Services Aren’t Designed for the Next Generation” by Tony Morgan. You can’t reach the next generation of young adults without being a church for young adults, he writes. 

(19:21-29:01): This one convicted us… “7 Proven Ways to Break Your Cell Phone Addiction”. Brian and Ian discuss distractions and the over-usage of our devices. 

(29:01-38:27): On a different note regarding phones, Brian and Ian discuss this piece in Love What Matters: Assistant principal’s plea for parents to monitor cell phone use, ‘The internet is the most dangerous place behind closed doors’. ‘When I have to search a student’s cell phone, I’m sick to my stomach at what I find. It gets worse every year.’

(39:23-50:52): John Ehrett writes “How to Lose a Generation: Against Tony Morgan’s Worship Quick-Fixes” in Patheos. This is in response to Tony Morgan’s article from the previous hour. 

(50:52-1:00:49): Erik Raymond writes “The Most Important Words to Say to Your Kids” in The Gospel Coalition. Brian and Ian reflect on this as parents. 

(1:00:49-1:10:17): Beth Moore Tweeted “Minister, you do not have time to miss your time alone with God. You’ll do 10 times the work trying to craft messages, create environments & curate images that, at best, possess all the color and crackle of real fire without a whit of holy heat. Production can’t produce Presence.”

(1:11:21-1:17:47): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”

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(00:00-09:45): Brian and Ian touch on several articles about how to handle and respond to the Coronavirus as Christiains. A church in Germany was exposed to the virus, so the pastor was quarantined. What does Martin Luther teach us about caring for the sick? 

(09:45-19:21): The guys discuss “#OkBoomer: 10 Signs Your Weekend Services Aren’t Designed for the Next Generation” by Tony Morgan. You can’t reach the next generation of young adults without being a church for young adults, he writes. 

(19:21-29:01): This one convicted us… “7 Proven Ways to Break Your Cell Phone Addiction”. Brian and Ian discuss distractions and the over-usage of our devices. 

(29:01-38:27): On a different note regarding phones, Brian and Ian discuss this piece in Love What Matters: Assistant principal’s plea for parents to monitor cell phone use, ‘The internet is the most dangerous place behind closed doors’. ‘When I have to search a student’s cell phone, I’m sick to my stomach at what I find. It gets worse every year.’

(39:23-50:52): John Ehrett writes “How to Lose a Generation: Against Tony Morgan’s Worship Quick-Fixes” in Patheos. This is in response to Tony Morgan’s article from the previous hour. 

(50:52-1:00:49): Erik Raymond writes “The Most Important Words to Say to Your Kids” in The Gospel Coalition. Brian and Ian reflect on this as parents. 

(1:00:49-1:10:17): Beth Moore Tweeted “Minister, you do not have time to miss your time alone with God. You’ll do 10 times the work trying to craft messages, create environments & curate images that, at best, possess all the color and crackle of real fire without a whit of holy heat. Production can’t produce Presence.”

(1:11:21-1:17:47): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”

(00:00-09:35): Michael Frost responded to the article “5 Reasons Socialism is Not Christian” by Julie Roys with his piece titled “5 Reason Capitalism is Not Christain”. Brian and Ian discuss the discourse.  

(09:35-37:30): We are joined by Jesse Oxford, the creative director and founder of Ox Creative. He talks about his life in Chicago and the work his company does. He says he aims for the arts to be expressed through worship.

He continues by talking about collaboration with other creatives, as well as his future projects, as well as his writing. He wrote a couple Medium articles: “Mastering the Art of Self-Leadership” and “How We Measure Our Lives”. His collaborative tool using a card deck. The kickstarter can be reached at @oxcreates on Instagram. 

(38:27-47:26): Jeff Peabody writes “Forgive Us Our Sins (And Theirs, Too)” in Christianity Today. How does an ancient prophet’s prayer answer our modern outrage? Brian and Ian dive deep into this.

(48:29-1:15:52): We are joined in studio by the former Editor in Chief of Christianity Today, Mark Galli. He retired in January from his position at the popular Christian publication, and wrote an “infamous” editorial on Donald Trump. He says that he didn’t expect it to get as much traction as it did, but it gained worldwide attention. 

He continues with Brian and Ian discussing his retirement and how he is settling into it. Even though he is enjoying the settling down of life, he still volunteers for World Relief and spends time with family.

His essay series “An Elusive Presence” is being published as a book called “When Did We Start Forgetting God?” due out in April. 

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(00:00-09:35): Michael Frost responded to the article “5 Reasons Socialism is Not Christian” by Julie Roys with his piece titled “5 Reason Capitalism is Not Christain”. Brian and Ian discuss the discourse.  

(09:35-37:30): We are joined by Jesse Oxford, the creative director and founder of Ox Creative. He talks about his life in Chicago and the work his company does. He says he aims for the arts to be expressed through worship.

He continues by talking about collaboration with other creatives, as well as his future projects, as well as his writing. He wrote a couple Medium articles: “Mastering the Art of Self-Leadership” and “How We Measure Our Lives”. His collaborative tool using a card deck. The kickstarter can be reached at @oxcreates on Instagram. 

(38:27-47:26): Jeff Peabody writes “Forgive Us Our Sins (And Theirs, Too)” in Christianity Today. How does an ancient prophet’s prayer answer our modern outrage? Brian and Ian dive deep into this.

(48:29-1:15:52): We are joined in studio by the former Editor in Chief of Christianity Today, Mark Galli. He retired in January from his position at the popular Christian publication, and wrote an “infamous” editorial on Donald Trump. He says that he didn’t expect it to get as much traction as it did, but it gained worldwide attention. 

He continues with Brian and Ian discussing his retirement and how he is settling into it. Even though he is enjoying the settling down of life, he still volunteers for World Relief and spends time with family.

His essay series “An Elusive Presence” is being published as a book called “When Did We Start Forgetting God?” due out in April.

(00:00-09:06): Avoiding Coronavirus May Be a Luxury Some Workers Can’t Afford. A sick day? Remote work? Not so easy if your job is at a restaurant, a day care center or a construction site. Brian and Ian talk about how it is the job of the church and Christians to care for the sick and needy. 

(09:06-18:08): Scott Sauls writes “Jesus and Performance Fatigue”. Brian and Ian discuss the difference between “Martha's” and “Mary's”. Are we focused on the duties of love over the delights of love?

(18:08-27:28): Bree Rostic writes “The Real Power of Living in Community” in Relevant. Brian and Ian discuss four ways how “living in community” can affect our lives.

(27:28-37:00): While self-care and self-love is essential to being able to “love our neighbor”, how are we supposed to handle self-pity? Brian and Ian discuss “7 Prayers to Fight Self-Pity” from Beliefnet.com.

(37:57-48:27): Brian and Ian touch on “The Church’s Real Political Correctness Problem” by David French. The religious right has created a mirror image PC complete with cancel culture and performative anger.

(48:27-59:06): We all have loved and enjoyed Dr. Seuss books at some point in our lives, but not many know that he came close to never publishing a single book. Brian and Ian talk about “The story behind Dr. Seuss' first book teaches us something crucial about risk”. 

(59:06-1:09:18): Vice President Mike Pence Mocked for Praying with Coronavirus Task Force. Brian and Ian talk about criticism upon Christians, especially those in government. 

(1:10:21-1:17:26): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”

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(00:00-09:06): Avoiding Coronavirus May Be a Luxury Some Workers Can’t Afford. A sick day? Remote work? Not so easy if your job is at a restaurant, a day care center or a construction site. Brian and Ian talk about how it is the job of the church and Christians to care for the sick and needy. 

(09:06-18:08): Scott Sauls writes “Jesus and Performance Fatigue”. Brian and Ian discuss the difference between “Martha's” and “Mary's”. Are we focused on the duties of love over the delights of love?

(18:08-27:28): Bree Rostic writes “The Real Power of Living in Community” in Relevant. Brian and Ian discuss four ways how “living in community” can affect our lives.

(27:28-37:00): While self-care and self-love is essential to being able to “love our neighbor”, how are we supposed to handle self-pity? Brian and Ian discuss “7 Prayers to Fight Self-Pity” from Beliefnet.com.

(37:57-48:27): Brian and Ian touch on “The Church’s Real Political Correctness Problem” by David French. The religious right has created a mirror image PC complete with cancel culture and performative anger.

(48:27-59:06): We all have loved and enjoyed Dr. Seuss books at some point in our lives, but not many know that he came close to never publishing a single book. Brian and Ian talk about “The story behind Dr. Seuss' first book teaches us something crucial about risk”. 

(59:06-1:09:18): Vice President Mike Pence Mocked for Praying with Coronavirus Task Force. Brian and Ian talk about criticism upon Christians, especially those in government. 

(1:10:21-1:17:26): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”

(00:00-09:20): Brian covers this Relevant Magazine piece: “Why One Christian CEO Made $70k His Company’s Minimum Wage”. He discusses having a socialist mentality, without implementing a socialist government. 

(09:20-18:10): Ellen Neuborne writes “6 Tips for Living on One Income” in Parents Magazine. Your family can live comfortably with one working parent, and Brian discusses how. Why is it more difficult for households to survive on one parent? 

(18:10-27:29): Randy Alcorn writes “Four Reasons Christians Distinguish Between Happiness and Joy” in his personal blog. Brian discusses his reasons and differences between happiness and joy, and what the Bible says about the difference. 

(27:29-36:46): Michael Foust touches on the top 10 Christian songs played on Spotify. Brian and John go through it (and sing some of the songs). “Spotify's Top 10 Christian Songs from Last Year Has Lots of Lauren Daigle, Hillsong United” 

(37:43-48:00): Disappointing local news, “Wheaton College rescinds title from Gilbert Bilezikian amid new allegations” writes Emily McFarlan Miller in Religion News. Brian talks about healing and pain in the church and for the victims of abuse. 

(48:00-1:06:02): We are joined by Attorney and Partner at Mauck and Baker, John Mauck. He discusses his background and his mission as a peace-maker in the law field. He explains how he approaches litigation and conflict resolution by praying with both whom he represents, as well as his adversaries. 

M&B represented students of Wheaton College as they were kicked out of Millennium Park for preaching the Gospel. He goes over the incident and how the city prohibited the preaching because they want it to maintain a peaceful place to gather. 

(1:07:06-1:13:48): Brian and Ian’s “Weird Stuff We Found on the Internet”

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