Much like The Bodyguard, ARMAGEDDON’s primary legacy is its MTV-Movie-Award-Winning song, a little Aerosmith ditty called I Don’t Want To Miss a Thing. What does that say about the movie, and would it be different if Bay’s film didn’t live under the shadow of Independence Day? Could the Criterion Collection be wrong, or are they ahead of the curve on this one? All that and more in this Real Talk segment!

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00:01:26 Straws

00:02:22 Real Talk

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- Hans Rothgiesser, the man behind our logo, can be reached at @mildemonios on Twitter or you can email him at [email protected] in case you ever need a logo (or comics) produced. And you can listen to him talk about economy on his new TV show, VALOR AGREGADO. Aaaaand you can also check out all the stuff he’s written on his own website. He has a new book: a sort of Economics For Dummies called MARGINAL. Ask him about it!

Up next, The Summer of the (MTV) Bangers continues with a smaller, much more intimate story, the nanny-thriller THE HAND THAT ROCKS THE CRADLE! Until then, let us know what you thought of Armageddon: Is it actually better than Deep Impact? Is it the Bayest of Michael Bay films? Is there a movie that features a more endearing rendition of Leaving on a Jet Plane? E-mail us at [email protected] or share your thoughts with us on Threads or BlueSky!

America to the rescue once again! Unfortunately, critics were a little harder to wow only two years after Independence Day had been the talk of the town and ARMAGEDDON got stamped with a 43% rotten Tomatometer score. But are we really so jaded that we can’t appreciate the awesomeness of Bruce Willis drilling into an asteroid? Listed to Alex & Julio defend Michael Bay’s first true masterpiece!

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00:01:24 Armageddon

00:15:36 Contrarians Corner

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- THE LATE NIGHT GRIN isn’t just a show about wrestling: it’s a brand, a lifestyle. And they’re very supportive of our Contrarian endeavors, so we’d like to return the favor. Check out their YouTube Channel! You might even spot Alex there from time to time.

- Hans Rothgiesser, the man behind our logo, can be reached at @mildemonios on Twitter or you can email him at [email protected] in case you ever need a logo (or comics) produced. And you can listen to him talk about economy on his new TV show, VALOR AGREGADO. Aaaaand you can also check out all the stuff he’s written on his own website. He has a new book: a sort of Economics For Dummies called MARGINAL. Ask him about it!

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Tough times for America as we publish this (at least if you care for your fellow men and women). Does that affect how you experience INDEPENDENCE DAY, a movie that was incredibly silly to begin with? A movie where The United States seems to have above-average leadership and countries all over the world look up to it? How much can nostalgia help or harm when watching Will Smith and the gang save the world? We talk about it all in this Real Talk segment!

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00:01:26 You knew

00:02:24 Real Talk

00:57:57 The Future & Patreon Stuff

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- Our buddy Cory Ahre is being kind enough to lend a hand with the editing of some of our videos. If you like his style, wait until you see what he does over on his YouTube Channel.

- THE LATE NIGHT GRIN isn’t just a show about wrestling: it’s a brand, a lifestyle. And they’re very supportive of our Contrarian endeavors, so we’d like to return the favor. Check out their YouTube Channel! You might even spot Alex there from time to time.

- Hans Rothgiesser, the man behind our logo, can be reached at @mildemonios on Twitter or you can email him at [email protected] in case you ever need a logo (or comics) produced. And you can listen to him talk about economy on his new TV show, VALOR AGREGADO. Aaaaand you can also check out all the stuff he’s written on his own website. He has a new book: a sort of Economics For Dummies called MARGINAL. Ask him about it!

Up next, The Summer of the (MTV) Bangers continues with another sci-fi disaster epic, Michael Bay’s ARMAGEDDON! Until then, let us know what you thought of Independence Day: Should it have cut back on the quips? Could it have used a more charismatic president? Is it just insane to watch under America’s current spiral toward fascism? E-mail us at [email protected] or share your thoughts with us on Threads or BlueSky!

There was a glorious time when you could watch The United States of America save the world in a movie without snickering. INDEPENDENCE DAY is a relic from America’s golden days as Earth’s protectors - a relic that, when inspected with modern eyes, falls ridiculously short of everything a sci-fi adventure should be. Perhaps that’s why it’s only MTV Movie Award in 1997 was for Best Kiss? Listen to Alex & Julio dissect Roland Emmerich’s love letter to The US and its 68% Tomatometer score!

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00:02:05 Independence Day

00:16:22 Contrarians Corner

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- Our buddy Cory Ahre is being kind enough to lend a hand with the editing of some of our videos. If you like his style, wait until you see what he does over on his YouTube Channel.

- THE LATE NIGHT GRIN isn’t just a show about wrestling: it’s a brand, a lifestyle. And they’re very supportive of our Contrarian endeavors, so we’d like to return the favor. Check out their YouTube Channel! You might even spot Alex there from time to time.

- Hans Rothgiesser, the man behind our logo, can be reached at @mildemonios on Twitter or you can email him at [email protected] in case you ever need a logo (or comics) produced. And you can listen to him talk about economy on his new TV show, VALOR AGREGADO. Aaaaand you can also check out all the stuff he’s written on his own website. He has a new book: a sort of Economics For Dummies called MARGINAL. Ask him about it!

Becoming an enduring part of pop culture doesn’t necessarily mean your movie is good. So what’s the verdict on THE BODYGUARD? Is there anything to it beyond that banger of a song and the undeniable chemistry between Costner and Houston? Did it get shortchanged when it only won one MTV Movie Award, or was it deserving of its multiple Razzie nominations? We hash it out in this Real Talk segment!

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00:01:26 Only If You Want To

00:02:17 Real Talk

00:49:38 The Future & Patreon Stuff

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- THE LATE NIGHT GRIN isn’t just a show about wrestling: it’s a brand, a lifestyle. And they’re very supportive of our Contrarian endeavors, so we’d like to return the favor. Check out their YouTube Channel! You might even spot Alex there from time to time.

- Hans Rothgiesser, the man behind our logo, can be reached at @mildemonios on Twitter or you can email him at [email protected] in case you ever need a logo (or comics) produced. And you can listen to him talk about economy on his new TV show, VALOR AGREGADO. Aaaaand you can also check out all the stuff he’s written on his own website. He has a new book: a sort of Economics For Dummies called MARGINAL. Ask him about it!

Up next, The Summer of the (MTV) Bangers continues with a very appropriate holiday episode, as we celebrate America (LOL OKAY) by tackling the 90s sci-fi classic INDEPENDENCE DAY! Until then, let us know what you thought of The Bodyguard: Can you think of a more iconic movie song? Can you ever match the romantic power of carrying someone like Costner carried Whitney? Can you believe Lawrence Kasdan wrote this??? E-mail us at [email protected] or share your thoughts with us on Threads or BlueSky!

You know the song even if you haven’t seen the movie. You know the iconic image too: Kevin Costner carrying Whitney Houston to safety. But did you know THE BODYGUARD is 38% rotten on the Tomatometer? Did you know it was written by the same guy who wrote The Empire Strikes Back and Raiders of the Lost Ark? Did you know it had six nominations at the 1993 MTV Movie Awards? Listen to Alex & Julio go over the ultimate love story for grown-ups!

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00:01:24 The Bodyguard

00:14:54 Contrarians Corner

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- Contrarians Merch is finally here! Check out our RED BUBBLE MERCH PAGE and buy yourself something nice that’s emblazoned with one of our four different designs!

- THE FESTIVE YEARS have been letting us use their music for years now and they are amazing. You can check out their work on Spotify, on Facebook or on their very own website.

- Our buddy Cory Ahre is being kind enough to lend a hand with the editing of some of our videos. If you like his style, wait until you see what he does over on his YouTube Channel.

- THE LATE NIGHT GRIN isn’t just a show about wrestling: it’s a brand, a lifestyle. And they’re very supportive of our Contrarian endeavors, so we’d like to return the favor. Check out their YouTube Channel! You might even spot Alex there from time to time.

- Hans Rothgiesser, the man behind our logo, can be reached at @mildemonios on Twitter or you can email him at [email protected] in case you ever need a logo (or comics) produced. And you can listen to him talk about economy on his new TV show, VALOR AGREGADO. Aaaaand you can also check out all the stuff he’s written on his own website. He has a new book: a sort of Economics For Dummies called MARGINAL. Ask him about it!

You either get on Shakespeare’s wavelength or you don’t. But maybe an extreme approach to The Bard’s stories can help? It’s likely Baz Luhrmann’s ROMEO + JULIET converted many romantics into fans of the play - even if they might not have stuck around for any other Shakespeare pieces. Did this rewatch work its magic on The Contrarians though? Find out in this Real Talk as we discuss the winner of the 1997 MTV Movie Award for Best Female Performance!

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00:01:26 O Romeo

00:02:09 Real Talk

01:00:38 The Future & Patreon Stuff

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- Our buddy Cory Ahre is being kind enough to lend a hand with the editing of some of our videos. If you like his style, wait until you see what he does over on his YouTube Channel.

- THE LATE NIGHT GRIN isn’t just a show about wrestling: it’s a brand, a lifestyle. And they’re very supportive of our Contrarian endeavors, so we’d like to return the favor. Check out their YouTube Channel! You might even spot Alex there from time to time.

- Hans Rothgiesser, the man behind our logo, can be reached at @mildemonios on Twitter or you can email him at [email protected] in case you ever need a logo (or comics) produced. And you can listen to him talk about economy on his new TV show, VALOR AGREGADO. Aaaaand you can also check out all the stuff he’s written on his own website. He has a new book: a sort of Economics For Dummies called MARGINAL. Ask him about it!

Up next, The Summer of the (MTV) Bangers continues with a slightly more modern love story, as we tackle a movie that gave us one of the most iconic songs of the 90s, THE BODYGUARD! Until then, let us know what you thought of Romeo + Juliet: does Willy Shakes’ play work in an updated environment? Was Baz Luhrmann’s sophomore effort snubbed at the Oscars? Did this movie define love for a generation? E-mail us at [email protected] or share your thoughts with us on Threads or BlueSky!

If you’ve ever wondered why 90s kids are SO dramatic about their love lives, you can put the blame on Baz Luhrmann’s ROMEO + JULIET. The overblown modernization of Willy Shakes’ teeny-bopper romance was a big hit with audiences and critics, with a fresh Tomatometer score of 74% - so that means Alex & Julio will take it down a few notches. Gorgeous people reciting antiquated dialogue? Shouldn’t be difficult to make fun of that!

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00:02:23 Romeo + Juliet

00:17:30 Contrarians Corner

- Wanna know how we really feel about ROMEO + JULIET? Check out the Real Talk (RT) episode, on your feed RIGHT NOW! (or pretty soon — Spotify can be a pain when it comes to refreshing the feed)

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- Contrarians Merch is finally here! Check out our RED BUBBLE MERCH PAGE and buy yourself something nice that’s emblazoned with one of our four different designs!

- THE FESTIVE YEARS have been letting us use their music for years now and they are amazing. You can check out their work on Spotify, on Facebook or on their very own website.

- Our buddy Cory Ahre is being kind enough to lend a hand with the editing of some of our videos. If you like his style, wait until you see what he does over on his YouTube Channel.

- THE LATE NIGHT GRIN isn’t just a show about wrestling: it’s a brand, a lifestyle. And they’re very supportive of our Contrarian endeavors, so we’d like to return the favor. Check out their YouTube Channel! You might even spot Alex there from time to time.

- Hans Rothgiesser, the man behind our logo, can be reached at @mildemonios on Twitter or you can email him at [email protected] in case you ever need a logo (or comics) produced. And you can listen to him talk about economy on his new TV show, VALOR AGREGADO. Aaaaand you can also check out all the stuff he’s written on his own website. He has a new book: a sort of Economics For Dummies called MARGINAL. Ask him about it!

Happy 30th anniversary, BATMAN FOREVER! We don’t need The Schumacher Cut to celebrate you - we just need an open mind about where camp sits in the Batman mythos. So, are you Team Carrey or Team Jones? Are you a U2 person or a Seal fan? Where do you place Val Kilmer in the Bruce Wayne rankings? We discuss all that and more in this Real Talk segment!

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00:01:26 Black Rubber

00:02:23 Real Talk

00:56:21 The Future & Patreon Stuff

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- Contrarians Merch is finally here! Check out our RED BUBBLE MERCH PAGE and buy yourself something nice that’s emblazoned with one of our four different designs!

- THE FESTIVE YEARS have been letting us use their music for years now and they are amazing. You can check out their work on Spotify, on Facebook or on their very own website.

- Our buddy Cory Ahre is being kind enough to lend a hand with the editing of some of our videos. If you like his style, wait until you see what he does over on his YouTube Channel.

- THE LATE NIGHT GRIN isn’t just a show about wrestling: it’s a brand, a lifestyle. And they’re very supportive of our Contrarian endeavors, so we’d like to return the favor. Check out their YouTube Channel! You might even spot Alex there from time to time.

- Hans Rothgiesser, the man behind our logo, can be reached at @mildemonios on Twitter or you can email him at [email protected] in case you ever need a logo (or comics) produced. And you can listen to him talk about economy on his new TV show, VALOR AGREGADO. Aaaaand you can also check out all the stuff he’s written on his own website. He has a new book: a sort of Economics For Dummies called MARGINAL. Ask him about it!

Up next, The Summer of the (MTV) Bangers continues with an adaptation that would make William Shakespeare raise a perplexed eyebrow: Baz Luhrmann’s ROMEO + JULIET! Until then, let us know what you thought of Batman Forever: Is it really the most agreeable Batman movie all these years later? Would you trade Chris O’Donnell for a younger rising star? Should Schumacher have quit while he was ahead and not done Batman & Robin as a follow-up? E-mail us at [email protected] or share your thoughts with us on Threads or BlueSky!