What a journey it's been. Now, we make sense of what became of The Ultimate Fighter. Who won the Couture-Liddell showdown?!

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- Alex and Julio discuss the freshest and most rotten movies on the Tomatometer in every episode of The Contrarians.

- STEVE! has opinions all over Bluesky.

- Joe talks about all sorts of wrestling related stuff on THE LATE NIGHT GRIN.

If any movie was going to make Alex go easier on Ansel Elgort, a Señor Spielbergo joint would have the best chance to do it. But whether Baby Driver finally wins a Contrarian over or not, there’s a lot more going on in the new WEST SIDE STORY, and we’ll have a serious conversation about it in this Real Talk segment. Listen to find out Julio’s proposed fix to the third act and more!

TIMELINE

00:01:26 Dishonor

00:02:14 Real Talk

00:58:43 The Future & Patreon Stuff

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- Contrarians Merch is finally here! Check out our RED BUBBLE MERCH PAGE and buy yourself something nice that’s emblazoned with one of our four different designs!

- THE FESTIVE YEARS have been letting us use their music for years now and they are amazing. You can check out their work on Spotify, on Facebook or on their very own website.

- Our buddy Cory Ahre is being kind enough to lend a hand with the editing of some of our videos. If you like his style, wait until you see what he does over on his YouTube Channel.

- THE LATE NIGHT GRIN isn’t just a show about wrestling: it’s a brand, a lifestyle. And they’re very supportive of our Contrarian endeavors, so we’d like to return the favor. Check out their YouTube Channel! You might even spot Alex there from time to time.

- Hans Rothgiesser, the man behind our logo, can be reached at @mildemonios on Twitter or you can email him at [email protected] in case you ever need a logo (or comics) produced. And you can listen to him talk about economy on his new TV show, VALOR AGREGADO. Aaaaand you can also check out all the stuff he’s written on his own website. He has a new book: a sort of Economics For Dummies called MARGINAL. Ask him about it!

Up next, the second payment of our Livestream for the Cure 2024 debt is due, as Julio must watch another Rob Zombie nightmare: 3 FROM HELL! Until then, let us know what you thought of 2021’s West Side Story: Should it be set in present day? Does Tony need a makeover? Has Bernardo killed people before? E-mail us at [email protected] or share your thoughts with us on Threads or BlueSky!

Steven Spielberg has reached the point in his career where he just makes films for himself. On the road to the ultimate indulgence of directing his own biopic, he stopped to remake one of his favorite movies, and his version of WEST SIDE STORY was Oscar-baity enough to score 91% on the Tomatometer! So listen to Alex & Julio as they lament how a gifted filmmaker wasted his time on an Ansel Elgort vehicle, and wonder if musical numbers are meant to soften racism.

TIMELINE

00:01:24 West Side Story 2021

00:12:54 Contrarians Corner

- Wanna know how we really feel about WEST SIDE STORY (2021)? Check out the Real Talk (RT) episode, on your feed RIGHT NOW! (or pretty soon — Spotify can be a pain when it comes to refreshing the feed)

- Interested in more Contrarians goodness? Join THE CONTRARIANS SUPPLEMENTS on our Patreon Page! Deleted clips, extended plugs, bonus episodes free from the Tomatometer shackles… It’s everything a Contrarians devotee would want!

- Our YouTube page is live! Get some visual Contrarians delight with our Contrarians Warm-Ups and other fun videos!

- Contrarians Merch is finally here! Check out our RED BUBBLE MERCH PAGE and buy yourself something nice that’s emblazoned with one of our four different designs!

- THE FESTIVE YEARS have been letting us use their music for years now and they are amazing. You can check out their work on Spotify, on Facebook or on their very own website.

- Our buddy Cory Ahre is being kind enough to lend a hand with the editing of some of our videos. If you like his style, wait until you see what he does over on his YouTube Channel.

- THE LATE NIGHT GRIN isn’t just a show about wrestling: it’s a brand, a lifestyle. And they’re very supportive of our Contrarian endeavors, so we’d like to return the favor. Check out their YouTube Channel! You might even spot Alex there from time to time.

- Hans Rothgiesser, the man behind our logo, can be reached at @mildemonios on Twitter or you can email him at [email protected] in case you ever need a logo (or comics) produced. And you can listen to him talk about economy on his new TV show, VALOR AGREGADO. Aaaaand you can also check out all the stuff he’s written on his own website. He has a new book: a sort of Economics For Dummies called MARGINAL. Ask him about it!

The road we've taken has brought us to this... The first ever Ultimate Fighter finale. A historic night on Spike TV that saw three fights and one Kevin James.

In the Middleweight finals, Diego Sanchez fights Kenny Florian. In the Light Heavyweight finals, Forrest Griffin and Stephan Bonnar have a moderately well-known contest. And, in the Main Event, Ken Shamrock returns to the octagon to test up-and-comer Rich Franklin.

What does Cameron Diaz's failed reality show have to do with any of this? Tune in to find out!

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In our last episode before the finale, we get TWO fights! Prior to that, we have to ensure Josh Koscheck is still alive.

Sam Hoger enters the cage to face Forrest Griffin while Mike Swick and Stephan Bonnar clash in a Team Green showdown.

And, fear not, we get into several lengthy detours regarding Professional Wrestling.

Want more from the hosts?

- Alex and Julio discuss the freshest and most rotten movies on the Tomatometer in every episode of The Contrarians.

- STEVE! has opinions all over Bluesky.

- Joe talks about all sorts of wrestling related stuff on THE LATE NIGHT GRIN.

People loooooooooove SOME LIKE IT HOT. Does it belong on Billy Wilder’s Mt Rushmore though? How does it compare to the other Wilder movies we’ve covered on the show? What’s it like, watching a classic Marilyn Monroe performance after having experienced her turn on THE MISFITS? Will this be our next Criterion purchase? The answers are in this Real Talk segment!

TIMELINE

00:01:26 Goosepimply All Over

00:02:08 Real Talk

01:00:25 The Future & Patreon Stuff

- Interested in more Contrarians goodness? Join THE CONTRARIANS SUPPLEMENTS on our Patreon Page! Deleted clips, extended plugs, bonus episodes free from the Tomatometer shackles… It’s everything a Contrarians devotee would want!

- Our YouTube page is live! Get some visual Contrarians delight with our Contrarians Warm-Ups and other fun videos!

- Contrarians Merch is finally here! Check out our RED BUBBLE MERCH PAGE and buy yourself something nice that’s emblazoned with one of our four different designs!

- THE FESTIVE YEARS have been letting us use their music for years now and they are amazing. You can check out their work on Spotify, on Facebook or on their very own website.

- Our buddy Cory Ahre is being kind enough to lend a hand with the editing of some of our videos. If you like his style, wait until you see what he does over on his YouTube Channel.

- THE LATE NIGHT GRIN isn’t just a show about wrestling: it’s a brand, a lifestyle. And they’re very supportive of our Contrarian endeavors, so we’d like to return the favor. Check out their YouTube Channel! You might even spot Alex there from time to time.

- Hans Rothgiesser, the man behind our logo, can be reached at @mildemonios on Twitter or you can email him at [email protected] in case you ever need a logo (or comics) produced. And you can listen to him talk about economy on his new TV show, VALOR AGREGADO. Aaaaand you can also check out all the stuff he’s written on his own website. He has a new book: a sort of Economics For Dummies called MARGINAL. Ask him about it!

Up next, it’s time to pay our first Livestream For The Cure 2024 debt, as Alex gets to experience Spielberg’s WEST SIDE STORY for the first time! Until then, let us know what you thought of Some Like It Hot: Has it aged like fine wine or is it a little cringe now? Can anyone out-Marilyn Marilyn? How far did Osgood and Daphne go? E-mail us at [email protected] or share your thoughts with us on Threads or BlueSky!

Billy Wilder channeled his inner Adam Sandler for 1959’s SOME LIKE IT HOT. All he had to do to wow critics and audiences was put Jack Lemmon and Tony Curtis in drag, and sexualize Marilyn Monroe every few scenes. Listen to Alex & Julio take on this 95% Tomatometer score, as they wonder if Wilder realized his movie celebrated a woman embracing the latest in a series of toxic relationships!

TIMELINE

00:01:24 Some Like It Hot

00:14:23 Contrarians Corner

- Wanna know how we really feel about SOME LIKE IT HOT? Check out the Real Talk (RT) episode, on your feed RIGHT NOW! (or pretty soon — Spotify can be a pain when it comes to refreshing the feed)

- Interested in more Contrarians goodness? Join THE CONTRARIANS SUPPLEMENTS on our Patreon Page! Deleted clips, extended plugs, bonus episodes free from the Tomatometer shackles… It’s everything a Contrarians devotee would want!

- Our YouTube page is live! Get some visual Contrarians delight with our Contrarians Warm-Ups and other fun videos!

- Contrarians Merch is finally here! Check out our RED BUBBLE MERCH PAGE and buy yourself something nice that’s emblazoned with one of our four different designs!

- THE FESTIVE YEARS have been letting us use their music for years now and they are amazing. You can check out their work on Spotify, on Facebook or on their very own website.

- Our buddy Cory Ahre is being kind enough to lend a hand with the editing of some of our videos. If you like his style, wait until you see what he does over on his YouTube Channel.

- THE LATE NIGHT GRIN isn’t just a show about wrestling: it’s a brand, a lifestyle. And they’re very supportive of our Contrarian endeavors, so we’d like to return the favor. Check out their YouTube Channel! You might even spot Alex there from time to time.

- Hans Rothgiesser, the man behind our logo, can be reached at @mildemonios on Twitter or you can email him at [email protected] in case you ever need a logo (or comics) produced. And you can listen to him talk about economy on his new TV show, VALOR AGREGADO. Aaaaand you can also check out all the stuff he’s written on his own website. He has a new book: a sort of Economics For Dummies called MARGINAL. Ask him about it!

How does Chris Leben take his second loss of the season? Surprisingly well. Coach Couture's speech playing a large part, undoubtedly.

Dana White finally begins explaining what the finale of this thing is going to look like.

And it's time for the most anticipated fight of the season as Josh Koscheck faces Diego Sanchez to determine who fights Kenny Florian in the finals.

Want more from the hosts?

- Alex and Julio discuss the freshest and most rotten movies on the Tomatometer in every episode of The Contrarians.

- STEVE! has opinions all over Bluesky.

- Joe talks about all sorts of wrestling related stuff on THE LATE NIGHT GRIN.

Ah, this was so much easier to record than Contrarians Corner. If you wanted to hear us actually engage with The Son’s concerns regarding mental health and parenthood - and how the movie addresses them - well, this is where it happens. But don’t worry, we still throw in the occasional Wolverine joke.

TIMELINE

00:01:26 Berserker Rage

00:02:21 Real Talk

00:54:57 The Future & Patreon Stuff

- Interested in more Contrarians goodness? Join THE CONTRARIANS SUPPLEMENTS on our Patreon Page! Deleted clips, extended plugs, bonus episodes free from the Tomatometer shackles… It’s everything a Contrarians devotee would want!

- Our YouTube page is live! Get some visual Contrarians delight with our Contrarians Warm-Ups and other fun videos!

- Contrarians Merch is finally here! Check out our RED BUBBLE MERCH PAGE and buy yourself something nice that’s emblazoned with one of our four different designs!

- THE FESTIVE YEARS have been letting us use their music for years now and they are amazing. You can check out their work on Spotify, on Facebook or on their very own website.

- Our buddy Cory Ahre is being kind enough to lend a hand with the editing of some of our videos. If you like his style, wait until you see what he does over on his YouTube Channel.

- THE LATE NIGHT GRIN isn’t just a show about wrestling: it’s a brand, a lifestyle. And they’re very supportive of our Contrarian endeavors, so we’d like to return the favor. Check out their YouTube Channel! You might even spot Alex there from time to time.

- Hans Rothgiesser, the man behind our logo, can be reached at @mildemonios on Twitter or you can email him at [email protected] in case you ever need a logo (or comics) produced. And you can listen to him talk about economy on his new TV show, VALOR AGREGADO. Aaaaand you can also check out all the stuff he’s written on his own website. He has a new book: a sort of Economics For Dummies called MARGINAL. Ask him about it!

Up next, we pick our next entry from Jordan Manse’s Top 100 movies of all time, and we welcome Billy Wilder back to the show as we tackle SOME LIKE IT HOT! Until then, let us know what you thought of The Son: Is it really a prequel to The Father? Could the cast tell this wasn’t going well as they shot it? Did you have any theories about the French intern? E-mail us at [email protected] or share your thoughts with us on Threads or BlueSky!

If you’re a new listener of our show and -especially- if you like Florian Zeller’s THE SON, you might want to skip Contrarians Corner. Zeller’s follow-up to his critically acclaimed The Father was a bust with critics and audiences - which means Alex & Julio will do their best to find things to praise within it and hopefully be funny along the way… but this is a movie about Hugh Jackman trying to help his suicidal teenage son so, you know. For Contrarians fans only.

TIMELINE

00:01:24 The Son

00:12:50 Contrarians Corner

- Wanna know how we really feel about THE SON? Check out the Real Talk (RT) episode, on your feed RIGHT NOW! (or pretty soon — Spotify can be a pain when it comes to refreshing the feed)

- Interested in more Contrarians goodness? Join THE CONTRARIANS SUPPLEMENTS on our Patreon Page! Deleted clips, extended plugs, bonus episodes free from the Tomatometer shackles… It’s everything a Contrarians devotee would want!

- Our YouTube page is live! Get some visual Contrarians delight with our Contrarians Warm-Ups and other fun videos!

- Contrarians Merch is finally here! Check out our RED BUBBLE MERCH PAGE and buy yourself something nice that’s emblazoned with one of our four different designs!

- THE FESTIVE YEARS have been letting us use their music for years now and they are amazing. You can check out their work on Spotify, on Facebook or on their very own website.

- Our buddy Cory Ahre is being kind enough to lend a hand with the editing of some of our videos. If you like his style, wait until you see what he does over on his YouTube Channel.

- THE LATE NIGHT GRIN isn’t just a show about wrestling: it’s a brand, a lifestyle. And they’re very supportive of our Contrarian endeavors, so we’d like to return the favor. Check out their YouTube Channel! You might even spot Alex there from time to time.

- Hans Rothgiesser, the man behind our logo, can be reached at @mildemonios on Twitter or you can email him at [email protected] in case you ever need a logo (or comics) produced. And you can listen to him talk about economy on his new TV show, VALOR AGREGADO. Aaaaand you can also check out all the stuff he’s written on his own website. He has a new book: a sort of Economics For Dummies called MARGINAL. Ask him about it!