The Conversation Club

By Kieryn Wang

If you’re tired of business advice that tells you to do more, be everywhere, and work all the time.....honestly? Same.

Hey there, I’m Kieryn Wang. I’m an email marketer, I run The Conversion

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August 19, 202616. I Accidentally Made Habit Tracking My Entire Personality.
What started as one tiny habit accidentally became my entire personality.
In today's episode, I'm sharing the habit tracking system that's transformed the way I approach my health, business, creativity, and overall wellbeing. What began as a simple way to build consistency quickly turned into one of the most powerful tools for understanding myself, but it also taught me the importance of knowing when tracking becomes too much.
I open up about the unhealthy side of obsessing over numbers, how I found my way back to a more balanced approach, and why I now use habit tracking as a tool for curiosity instead of criticism.
Whether you're trying to build better routines, feel more in control of your life, or simply stop starting over every Monday, this episode will show you how small, intentional habits can create big, lasting change.

I yap about:
How habit tracking became one of the biggest catalysts for personal growth
The fine line between healthy accountability and unhealthy obsession
The "Basic Eight" habits that help me feel my happiest, healthiest self
Why consistency beats perfection every single time
How to use patterns, not willpower, to build better habits
The surprising ways tracking has improved my creativity, productivity, and mental wellbeing
Why getting 1% better is a far more sustainable goal than trying to do everything perfectly
The free habit tracking spreadsheet I use every day and how you can customize it to work for your own life

If you enjoyed this episode...
Listen next: Cubicle to CEO where I break down the time-tracking system that helped me work fewer hours, increase my hourly rate, and completely change the way I think about productivity. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/339-systemizing-to-six-figures-increasing-average-earnings/id1470966370?i=1000767153258

The time tracking post I mentioned: https://www.instagram.com/p/DYA6ZnBDVYS/?img_index=1

Grab my free Habit Tracking Spreadsheet. The exact tracker I use to build better habits, spot patterns, and stay consistent (plus step-by-step Loom tutorials showing you how to customize it for your own goals). https://www.itsallmost.com/daily-habit-tracker

Connect with me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itsallmost/
Visit my website: https://www.itsallmost.com
Join The Conversion Club: https://itsallmost.com/the-conversion-club
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39min
August 12, 202615. The HUMAN Method, Step 1: Build an Email List That Actually Grows Your Business
Hot take: stop obsessing over followers and start collecting email addresses.
In today's episode, I'm sharing exactly how to grow an email list that actually leads to sales. From creating irresistible lead magnets (aka sign up incentives or freebies) to avoiding the biggest list-building mistakes, this is your step-by-step guide to building an audience you actually own.
I also break down why discounts aren't the best way to get subscribers, the simple website changes that can instantly increase signups, and how to create an email list-building strategy that keeps working long after your latest Instagram post disappears from the feed.

I yap about:
Why your email list is one of the most valuable assets in your business
The easiest ways to start growing your list today (without overcomplicating it)
The simple website tweaks that can dramatically increase email signups
Lead magnets vs discount codes
The compliance rules you should know before collecting email addresses
My hot take on unsubscribes
Where to promote your newsletter beyond social media
The first action steps you can implement today to start building a list that actually converts

Sources:
Adding any lead magnet roughly doubles conversion vs. no incentive. One study found mobile went from 3.83% up to 7.73%, and desktop from 1.84% up to 4.7% (My Codeless Website).
MailerLite's analysis of 41,000+ opt-in forms found the average conversion rate across all forms and pop-ups was 22.16%, with learning/educational offers (courses, workshops, training) as the best-performing category for most businesses at 27.4% overall conversion (MailerLite).
Mailer discounts tend to be the weakest lead magnet by conversion rate, not the strongest.
Discount forms and pop-ups had the lowest conversion rate of any offer type, at just 16.2%. Varying the discount depth (10% vs. 15% vs. 20%) doesn't move the needle much either (MailerLite).
Connect with me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itsallmost/
Visit my website: https://www.itsallmost.com
Join The Conversion Club: https://itsallmost.com/the-conversion-club
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50min
August 05, 202614. Embracing the Woo in Your Business
Let's get a little woo woo, shall we? Worst case: you roll your eyes. Best case: your business transforms.
In today's episode, I'm sharing how embracing intuition, manifestation, astrology, human design, and other spiritual + energetic practices has completely changed the way I approach business. Whether you're already deep into the woo or you're a total skeptic, this conversation is really about one thing: building more self-trust.
I break down the mindset shifts, rituals, and tools that have helped me make better decisions, feel more aligned, and create a business that feels just as good as the results it's producing. Because strategy matters, but so does the person behind the strategy.

I yap about:
Why intuition can be one of your greatest business assets
The difference between manifestation and simply wishing for things to happen
How astrology, human design, and other "woo" tools can build confidence and clarity
Why strengthening your mindset is rooted in science, not just spirituality
The role gratitude plays in rewiring your brain for abundance
Simple moon rituals, tarot practices, and visualization exercises I actually use
How to balance strategy with energetic alignment in your business
Why following your curiosity can be more powerful than forcing productivity
The importance of taking action after setting intentions
How to find the spiritual practices that resonate with you and leave the rest behind

Sources:
43% of women age 18 to 49 believe in astrology and 27% of women 50+ believe in it (Pew Research Center).
13% of women consult astrology, tarot cards, or fortune tellers for helpful insights (Pew Research Center).
15% of women have received spiritual guidance from a guru, shaman, or other spiritual leader (YouGov).
31% of women believe objects such as crystals, jewels, or stones can have spirits or spiritual energies (Pew Research Center).
18% of women believe in energetic or vibrational healing and 20% believe in psychic readings (YouGov)
69% of women believe in at least one of the following: psychics, astrology, reincarnation, or that spiritual energy can be located in physical things such as crystals (Pew Research Center).

Connect with me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itsallmost/
Visit my website: https://www.itsallmost.com
Join The Conversion Club: https://itsallmost.com/the-conversion-club
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1h 3min
July 30, 202613. "Don't Make It Political" (Too Late.)
Oop, I'm bringing up politics again. Because everything is political (duh), even your business. Your values don't clock out when you clock into your business. Neither should your voice.
In this episode, we're unpacking why your values shouldn't disappear the moment you become a business owner. I share why I've chosen to be vocal about the causes I care about, how that's impacted my business, and why standing for something can be one of the most powerful ways to build a community that truly aligns with you.
I also share real ways to take action, support causes you care about, and use your platform with intention without feeling like you have to be an expert on everything.

I yap about:
Why "staying out of politics" isn't actually possible as a business owner
How sharing your values attracts more aligned clients and opportunities
The difference between performative activism and taking meaningful action
Practical ways to support causes you care about through your business
Why your spending habits, partnerships, and business decisions all communicate your values
How to speak up authentically, even if you're afraid of losing followers or customers
The mindset shift from scarcity to building a business that's fully aligned with who you are
Resources:
Join me in providing internet access to Gaza! I have a recurring $10 weekly donation through Watermelon Warriors e-sims https://watermelonwarriors.io/esims/
Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions movement info + companies to boycott + scripts for representatives https://bdsmovement.net/
Northwest Immigrant Rights Project https://www.nwirp.org/
Look up your local immigrant rights organization to help with anti-ICE actions
Local mutual aid networks I like (find your local orgs!)
https://www.instagram.com/mutualaidlanetwork/
https://www.instagram.com/superfamilia_kc/
https://www.instagram.com/skc_e_mutual_aid/
https://www.instagram.com/queertheland/
https://www.instagram.com/covid19mutualaid/
Instagraminstagram.com/abolitionistdirectaid?igsh...

National Bailout https://www.nationalbailout.org/
Also check out your local bail fund to help dismantle the prison industrial complex
Last Prisoner Project https://www.lastprisonerproject.org/
Learn about ethical investing from Amanda Holden https://amandaholden.podia.com/ or https://www.instagram.com/dumpster.doggy/

Does boycotting work?
Combined, these [boycotted] companies have faced tens of billions of dollars in erased market valuation and billions in direct revenue losses.
Starbucks saw roughly $11 billion wiped from its market value during a historic 19-day stock decline at the peak of the boycott (Business and Human Rights Centre).
Target suffered between $12 billion and $15.7 billion in lost market value as its stock plummeted up to 33% during peak protest windows (The Charlotte Post).
Financial media and activist trackers report that global boycotts cost McDonald’s over $7 billion in revenue (Jordan News).
It’s difficult to isolate an exact dollar amount that Nestlé has lost directly to boycotts, but financial reports and historical data indicate that consumer movements have cost the company billions of dollars in lower sales volumes, declining profits, and restructuring expenses (Invezz).

Connect with me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itsallmost/
Visit my website: https://www.itsallmost.com
Join The Conversion Club: https://itsallmost.com/the-conversion-club
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50min
July 29, 202613. "Don't Make It Political" (Too Late.)
Oop, I'm bringing up politics again. Because everything is political (duh), even your business. Your values don't clock out when you clock into your business. Neither should your voice.
In this episode, we're unpacking why your values shouldn't disappear the moment you become a business owner. I share why I've chosen to be vocal about the causes I care about, how that's impacted my business, and why standing for something can be one of the most powerful ways to build a community that truly aligns with you.
I also share real ways to take action, support causes you care about, and use your platform with intention without feeling like you have to be an expert on everything.

I yap about:
Why "staying out of politics" isn't actually possible as a business owner
How sharing your values attracts more aligned clients and opportunities
The difference between performative activism and taking meaningful action
Practical ways to support causes you care about through your business
Why your spending habits, partnerships, and business decisions all communicate your values
How to speak up authentically, even if you're afraid of losing followers or customers
The mindset shift from scarcity to building a business that's fully aligned with who you are

Resources:
Join me in providing internet access to Gaza! I have a recurring $10 weekly donation through Watermelon Warriors e-sims https://watermelonwarriors.io/esims/
Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions movement info + companies to boycott + scripts for representatives https://bdsmovement.net/
Northwest Immigrant Rights Project https://www.nwirp.org/
Look up your local immigrant rights organization to help with anti-ICE actions
Local mutual aid networks I like (find your local orgs!)
https://www.instagram.com/mutualaidlanetwork/
https://www.instagram.com/superfamilia_kc/
https://www.instagram.com/skc_e_mutual_aid/
https://www.instagram.com/queertheland/
https://www.instagram.com/covid19mutualaid/
Instagraminstagram.com/abolitionistdirectaid?igsh...

National Bailout https://www.nationalbailout.org/
Also check out your local bail fund to help dismantle the prison industrial complex
Last Prisoner Project https://www.lastprisonerproject.org/
Learn about ethical investing from Amanda Holden https://amandaholden.podia.com/ or https://www.instagram.com/dumpster.doggy/

Does boycotting work?
Combined, these [boycotted] companies have faced tens of billions of dollars in erased market valuation and billions in direct revenue losses.
Starbucks saw roughly $11 billion wiped from its market value during a historic 19-day stock decline at the peak of the boycott (Business and Human Rights Centre).
Target suffered between $12 billion and $15.7 billion in lost market value as its stock plummeted up to 33% during peak protest windows (The Charlotte Post).
Financial media and activist trackers report that global boycotts cost McDonald’s over $7 billion in revenue (Jordan News).
It’s difficult to isolate an exact dollar amount that Nestlé has lost directly to boycotts, but financial reports and historical data indicate that consumer movements have cost the company billions of dollars in lower sales volumes, declining profits, and restructuring expenses (Invezz).

Connect with me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itsallmost/
Visit my website: https://www.itsallmost.com
Join The Conversion Club: https://itsallmost.com/the-conversion-club
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43min
July 22, 202612. I Owned a Home for 10 Years. I'd Never Do It Again.
Buying a home is supposed to be the ultimate sign that you've "made it."
Build equity. Stop paying someone else's mortgage. Invest in your future.
But after a decade of managing my family home, I realized homeownership came with far more than monthly mortgage payments. From six figures in repairs to HOA rules, rising property taxes, and the constant weight of responsibility, I started questioning whether owning a home was actually giving me the life I wanted.
In this episode, I share why I made the decision to sell my home, why I don't plan on owning again, and why I believe we need to stop treating homeownership as the only path to financial success or a meaningful life.

I yap about:
The hidden costs of homeownership no one talks about
Why "building equity" isn't always the winning argument people think it is
The financial and emotional realities of maintaining a home
How my definition of wealth shifted from ownership to freedom
Why renting can be the right choice—and why you don't have to follow society's timeline

Connect with me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itsallmost/
Visit my website: https://www.itsallmost.com
Join The Conversion Club: https://itsallmost.com/the-conversion-club
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45min
July 15, 202611. Chinamaxxing, Mahjong, and Asian Cultural Appropriation
Why is something you got bullied for as a kid suddenly "trendy" the moment someone else (especially a white person) discovers/Columbus's it?
That question has been sitting with me, and this episode is where I work through it out loud. I'm talking about growing up Asian, watching pieces of my own culture get repackaged and go viral with zero credit to where they came from, and why the line between appreciation and appropriation is actually not that hard to understand despite what white people want to tell you.
We get into wellness trends, food, fashion, beauty, social media and why it's worth actually listening to the communities these traditions belong to instead of talking past them.

What I'm covering:
Why cultural appropriation isn't just about intent but also impact
The childhood experiences that shaped how I see today's viral trends
Where the line between appreciation and appropriation actually exists
How social media, influencers, and brands profit from cultures they don't belong to
What respectful allyship looks like when you're engaging with another culture

I know there's going to be a lot of angry white people in my comments and DMs for this one. Before you come spew your hate at me, take a moment to evaluate why you're so angry and so set on defending problematic behavior that would take only a few small fixes to change? Hmm? Chew on that.

Sources:
Of over 3,500 hate incidents in California from March 2020 to June 2021, three out of ten (28.9%) occurred at the place of business. (Asian Business Association (ABA) Pandemic Impacts Survey)

Connect with me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itsallmost/
Visit my website: https://www.itsallmost.com
Join The Conversion Club: https://itsallmost.com/the-conversion-club
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45min
July 08, 202610. Everything I Wish I Knew About Money Sooner
For years, I avoided looking at my bank account, ignored my budget, and told myself I'd "figure out money stuff later." Sound familiar?
Today I'm pulling back the curtain on everything I wish someone had told me sooner about money.... the habits, the mindset shifts, and the small daily decisions that quietly separate the people who retire comfortably from the people stuck living paycheck to paycheck.
This isn't about complicated spreadsheets or restrictive budgets. It's about building a healthier relationship with money. One that starts with awareness and ends with confidence.
In this episode, we cover:
The mindset shifts that completely changed my relationship with money
How to start budgeting, saving, and investing without feeling overwhelmed
Why building an emergency fund should be one of your first financial goals
Common investing mistakes to avoid (especially when emotions take over)
Simple habits that can help you build wealth consistently over time

Personal finance educators I love:
Amanda Holden https://www.instagram.com/dumpster.doggy and the best course you'll ever buy https://amandaholden.podia.com/invested-development (also check out her book "How to Be A Rich Old Lady" https://www.amanda-holden.com/book)
Vanessa Wachtmeister https://www.instagram.com/wanderonwards/
Berna Anat https://www.instagram.com/heyberna/and her community https://www.instagram.com/new_dimes/
Yanely Espinal https://www.instagram.com/missbehelpful/
Kara Pérez https://www.instagram.com/karaexploresmoney
Tiffany Aliche https://www.instagram.com/thebudgetnista

Sources:
In the study, 186 people watched real life news stories that were expected to stimulate emotional reactions and were then asked to make risky financial decisions with real money at stake. After watching the news stories, men became significantly less willing to take financial risks even though the decisions were completely unrelated to the news. However, the decisions of women appeared completely unaffected by having watched the same news. (University of Essex study)

Connect with me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itsallmost/
Visit my website: https://www.itsallmost.com
Join The Conversion Club: https://itsallmost.com/the-conversion-club
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55min
July 01, 2026 9. Why Mindset Work Matters More Than Systems
I recently did an episode of Cubicle to CEO breaking down how I've worked fewer hours and made more money over the last eight years.
While I was prepping for it, my friend asked me: "But like, what do you actually do?" And that's when I realized... it's not really the systems. It's the mindset. It's the energetic alignment, the inner work, the woo stuff I usually keep to myself.
So this week I'm getting into all of it. The eldest immigrant daughter conditioning I'm still unlearning. The ego I had to release to start asking for referrals. The clients I've fired because working with them didn't feel right in my body. And the framework that's helped me reverse-engineer my way out of a scarcity mindset and into a wealthy one, even on the weeks I really, really don't feel like it.
This one's a little vulnerable. I'm not coming at you with "I've got it all figured out" energy — I'm still working through a lot of this in real time. But if even one piece of it resonates with you, take it and run.

In this episode, we talk about:
• Why mindset work often matters more than systems and strategy
• How to stop making decisions from fear, desperation, and lack
• Why asking for help, referrals, and opportunities is a skill worth developing
• The difference between attracting aligned clients and chasing the wrong opportunities
• How existing from a place of abundance changes the way you approach money, growth, and success
• A simple framework for shifting your thoughts, emotions, actions, and results
• Why your future success depends on the identity you're choosing to embody today
• Practical ways to build confidence, challenge limiting beliefs, and strengthen your mindset

My Cubicle to CEO episode with Ellen: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/339-systemizing-to-six-figures-increasing-average-earnings/id1470966370?i=1000767153258
My Quantum Wealth episode with Jillian: https://podcasts.apple.com/cr/podcast/what-actually-changes-when-you-do-the-inner-work/id1871569964?i=1000769960980

Connect with me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itsallmost/
Visit my website: https://www.itsallmost.com
Join The Conversion Club: https://itsallmost.com/the-conversion-club
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57min
June 24, 2026 8. Setting Boundaries with Your Clients
Every boundary you don't set becomes an expectation you'll eventually resent.

In this episode, we're talking about one of the most important skills every business owner needs to develop: setting and enforcing boundaries.

From late payments and scope creep to clients who expect immediate responses, it's easy for small exceptions to turn into frustrating patterns. And more often than not, the resentment we feel toward clients starts long before the moment we finally draw the line.

I'm sharing the lessons I've learned, practical scripts you can use in your own business, and the boundaries that can help protect your time, energy, expertise, and sanity as you grow.

In this episode, we talk about:
• The client behaviors that lead to watch out for
• How to stop scope creep, late payments, and unrealistic demands before they become bigger problems
• Boundary-setting scripts you can steal for your own business
• How to protect your time, energy, and expertise without damaging relationships
• The mindset shift that makes enforcing boundaries feel a whole lot easier

Connect with me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itsallmost/
Visit my website: https://www.itsallmost.com
Join The Conversion Club: https://itsallmost.com/the-conversion-club
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40min

FAQs about The Conversation Club:

How many episodes does The Conversation Club have?

The podcast currently has 18 episodes available.