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Jerry Mitchell is an investigative reporter for Mississippi Today and author of "Race Against Time." https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Race-Against-Time/Jerry-Mitchell/9781451645149

Jerry Mitchell's Instagram:
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A longtime journalist for The Clarion Ledger, Mitchell was instrumental in reopening multiple murder cases that occurred throughout the civil rights era in Mississippi.

Episode Time Stamps
(0:00) Intro
(2:00) Jerry details audio book recording process
(4:20) Is Texas part of the South?
(6:00) Racial dynamics in Texas vs Mississippi
(9:00) Why the history of racial polarization in Mississippi?
(10:00) Where did the influence of the Klan originate?
(14:00) The resurgence of the Klan in early 20th century
(16:30) The Klan was not strictly a southern organization
(18:40) Klan's self-described mission was to "save Democracy"
(20:20) Did white people in Mississippi agree with white supremacy?
(22:00) Propaganda fueled the flames of the Klan's fire
(24:00) Jerry's meeting with Medgar Evers' killer
(28:00) Ku Klux Klan had immense political power in Mississippi
(30:30) How did the Klan recruit police officers to join?
(32:00) Why didn't people stand up to the Klan in Mississippi?
(34:00) Did civil rights workers recognize the danger of the Klan?
(37:00) Supermajority state government is not good
(39:00) Are we re-segregating ourselves in Mississippi?
(41:30) Majority black schools perform very poorly
(44:00) Education is important for the health of society
(47:00) We must hold our elected officials accountable
(48:30) How do desolate areas attract quality educators?
(50:00) Symptoms of corruption in Mississippi law enforcement
(52:00) Rankin County law enforcement abuse and harassment
(57:30) It's easy to play the "race card"
(58:00) We don't respect teachers or law enforcement
(1:00:20) Should all drugs be legalized?
(1:01:40) Lee details being caught with marijuana
(1:03:30) Government is largely inefficient
(1:05:30) Should people be incarcerated for marijuana?
(1:09:40) Will the voter initiative process be restored?
(1:12:25) Should we rethink how we handle the mentally ill?
(1:15:00) How can Jackson, MS be improved?
(1:17:00) One Lake Project
(1:19:20) Jackson, Mississippi needs new leadership
(1:20:50) Is the Ku Klux Klan still active in Mississippi?
(1:22:20) White supremacy: Then vs Now
(1:25:00) Communism vs Facsism
(1:28:00) Influx of German scientists in America
(1:30:00) Mississippi Burning Case
(1:33:00) Why was Edgar Ray Killen the only person prosecuted?
(1:36:30) How were the bodies discovered?
(1:39:00) Details of Mississippi Burning murder scene
(1:43:50) Did Klansmen have a change of heart upon being pressured?
(1:46:00) Was Sam Bowers charismatic?
(1:48:00) Was Divine intervention at play to reopen the cases?
(1:50:00) The Klan appeared to be amateur criminals

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Porch Talk's founder and host, Alan Aldridge, comes through for a discussion. https://porch-talk.net/

Y'all know we go wherever the conversation leads us. Part I of Porch Talk and County Line combo episode is all over the place, but entertaining nonetheless.

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Episode Time Stamps
(0:00) Did Hollywood shape our generations' southern perspective
(2:00) Do you need more than nine round to go hunting?
(3:15) "They better not fuck with our guns!"
(4:30) Joe Rogan has a very American life experience
(5:40) We must listen to understand
(7:00) What is economy of words?
(8:15) Will Lee Carl do stand up again?
(9:15) What is imposter syndrome?
(11:30) Alan describes his version of imposter syndrome
(13:00) Creative outlets are an important part of life
(14:15) Mississippi vs Alabama
(15:55) Alan ponders his future partner's creative tastes
(16:50) What do you do on long drives?
(18:00) Alan details getting too drunk on a podcast
(19:30) Porch Talk producing content for paywall?
(21:00) Ben Hardy makes impromptu appearance
(22:00) How does Lee Carl get guests for The County Line?
(24:00) Is having a conversation art?
(26:30) "Don't meet your heroes?"
(27:00) If you get a shot, take it!
(28:30) Would you go to a live podcast?
(30:00) How do you level up in podcasting?
(32:00) How does one attract guests for independent podcasts?
(34:00) It takes forever to edit video content
(36:30) Real Good Podcast - Bobbi Althoff
(38:40) Why is RFK's voice terrible?
(40:30) Why would Trump debate other Republican candidates?
(42:20) Q'anon is occult!
(43:10) Will RFK get a shot at Biden?
(44:39) Lee Carl likes Trump and RFK Jr.
(46:00) Can Ron DeSantis beat Trump?
(47:40) Alan predicts 2024 election results
(50:00) Trump vs Biden = Trump wins big!
(52:00) Democrats are great at messaging!
(54:30) Trump does not have to debate
(55:00) RFK Jr. vs Vivek Ramaswamy 2024
(57:00) Is the media landscape in America changing?
(58:45) Do you receive criticism for supporting Trump?
(1:00:00) Is the art of conversation lost?
(1:02:00) What is the best setting for discussing politics?
(1:05:00) Is COVID gone?
(1:07:30) Everything is political!
(1:09:15) THE MEDIA LIED ABOUT COVID
(1:11:15) Political party ideology is dangerous
(1:12:30) Alex Jones is funny and entertaining
(1:14:30) Alan reflects on Rush Limbaugh
(1:16:20) What is the future of media in America?
(1:18:00) Inactive podcasts should be less suggested in searches
(1:18:45) Thunderstorm interruption
(1:21:30) Porch Talk plays romantic matchmaker
(1:24:00) Psychological impact of being adopted
(1:26:00) The County Line merchandise https://www.countylinepodcast.com/merch
(1:28:30) White people = Mayonnaise Monsters
(1:29:20) Aggressive white trash (AWT)
(1:30:00) Are we white trash?!
(1:32:15) Why does an oil change cost so much?
(1:34:30) Any suggestions for guests on The County Line?
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Porch Talk's founder and host, Alan Aldridge, comes through for a discussion. https://porch-talk.net/

Y'all know we go wherever the conversation leads us. Part I of Porch Talk and County Line combo episode is all over the place, but entertaining nonetheless.

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Episode Time Stamps

(1:00) It's hot as fuck
(2:00) I only want to sweat when I mean to
(4:00) How long will a pair of tennis shoes last?
(5:30) Why is it so hot?
(7:15) Do you know the Great Lakes?
(8:30) Kid Rock
(9:37) Alan admires Boosie segments
(11:30) Boosie v Mike Tyson
(13:00) Boosie apologizes to Dwayne Wade
(14:00) Why did the left pick Jason Aldean?
(15:00) Cardi B - WAP
(16:00) The internet makes raising children more difficult
(17:30) Storyteller is the most important figure in culture
(18:30) Art is the true representation of how people feel
(20:00) Does modern architecture suck?
(21:15) Industrial revolution killed craftsmanship
(22:30) Do we sound like Forrest Gump?
(24:00) The left praising Tyler Childers new song?
(24:40) Try That In A Small Town backlash is unsubstantiated
(27:00) The news media will always claim "racism"
(28:30) Is The County Line content fair?
(30:00) Lee Carl's stand up performance round up
(31:50) Mary Ryan Brown is funny!
(33:00) Open mic night possibilities
(34:45) Southern Prohibition open mic night
(36:30) Bud Crawford fight recap
(38:15) High school baseball walk out songs
(39:30) Jamey Johnson catalog
(40:36) Stages of life can change artists
(41:40) Nickelback's fans hurt their popularity
(43:20) Alan's comedic palate
(44:45) Everything was "gay" in 2004
(45:30) What is the male equivalent of Karen?
(47:00) Alan critiques Lee Carl's interview style
(48:30) People don't have long form conversations often
(49:20) Do younger generations struggle with in person conversation?
(51:00) Sometimes we need nature for mental clarity
(52:30) Alan has punched a hole in the wall TWICE!!
(54:00) Lee details his attempt to break into his own car
(55:30) Alan details his encounter with attempted rape on spring break
(58:30) Sexual, physical, and verbal abuse is too common
(1:00:00) A higher power can be very helpful through adversity
(1:01:30) Exercise improves mood
(1:03:00) Carrying a grudge is a heavy burden

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Lee Carl back in the pulpit to spread the gospel to the County Line Congregation in a solo sermon. https://www.countylinepodcast.com/

Episode Time Stamps
(0:00) Song inspired by the Neshoba County Fair
(2:25) "Comin' to share the gospel!"
(3:00) Try That In A Small Town
(5:00) Parties restrain independent thinking
(8:00) Woke News Media
(11:00) Woke News Media hate southern, white males
(12:38) "You're racist, you're racist, you're racist!"
(14:08) How many white men actually owned slaves?
(15:45) Same song and dance
(17:50) Small town mentality transcends race
(19:40) Trump leads the pack
(21:11) Mitch McConnell is old af
(24:00) Mitch McConnell cannot function
(26:00) Who are the oldest people in Congress?
(27:30) ChatGPT be lyin'
(28:50) AI can and will be used for mind control
(30:00) Democrats and Big Tech are obviously in bed together
(32:30) The potential dangers of AI 
(34:30) CFB realignment 
(36:00) Minor league NFL
(38:30) SEC: "It just means more!"
(40:00) LSU is committed to WINNING!
(41:50) I love LSU!!
(44:00) Baton Rouge prime time on Saturday night
(47:00) Where does realignment end?
(49:00) SEC, Big 10, ACC, Big 12
(51:15) SEC is already minor league NFL
(52:15) Joe Burrow was, and is, a bad ass!
(53:40) 2019 LSU @ Alabama
(55:00) Touchdown Clyde Edwards-Helaire!
(56:00) Real Good Podcast - Bobbi Althoff
(57:30) "Bobbi, you're a thot!" - Drake
(58:10) Lil' Yachty makes me feel dumb
(59:40) Who is this bitch?
(1:00:15) Who the fuck is Lee Carl?
(1:02:05) Shout out Bobbi Althoff

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Emmie Perkins recently completed her one year reign as Miss Mississippi 2022. Emmie is currently completing her undergraduate degree in Communication at Mississippi State University, where she was recognized as Miss MSU in October 2021.

During her tenure as Miss Mississippi, Emmie founded an initiative she coined "Music Is Medicine."

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https://www.miss-mississippi.com/

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Episode Time Stamps

(1:30) Choctaw Indian Fair 2023
(2:15) Miss Mississippi Volunteer
(5:00) Fitness preparation regimen
(7:00) Emmie leaving Mississippi?
(9:45) Upcoming Mississippi elections
(11:30) Native American tribal customs and traditions
(14:23) Lack of food options in Philadelphia
(15:54) Wendy's = Chic-fil-A
(17:23) Neshoba County Fair discussion
(19:00) Neshoba County Fair Netflix documentary
(21:00) Shaquille O'Neal investment portfolio
(23:00) Education and crime are major concerns
(25:36) Mississippi's cost of living
(27:00) Real estate cost significantly less in Mississippi
(28:45) Importance of persistence in sales
(30:00) Liver and gizzard challenge?!
(32:00) What is southern hospitality?
(33:30) Common courtesy to say "sir" and "mam?"
(35:40) Texas ain't The South
(37:00) Culture is lost and found in major Texas cities
(38:50) How was the "slug burger?"
(40:20) Sardines and Viennas?!
(41:30) Biggest turnoff on first date?
(44:00) Datings apps? Tinder? Bumble?
(45:20) Why don't you like dating apps?
(47:20) Meeting someone at Auto Zone vs Dating App
(48:00) Biggest turn on when on first date
(49:00) Many men look for their mother in a woman
(50:00) What is your greatest insecurity?
(52:00) What is mindfulness?
(54:00) The loudest people are often the most insecure
(56:00) Money vs Fame

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Jacob Boler is founder and director of "K.O.E: Kids Over Everything," a local charity organization focused on providing support for children in Philadelphia, Mississippi.

This episode is primarily focused on the history, evolution, and current state of the Philadelphia Public School District in Philadelphia, Mississippi. The problems that persist in the Philadelphia Public Schools are not unique to Philadelphia and should not be reflected as an indictment of the children that have attended, or currently attend the institution. Nor should sole blame be placed on previous or current administration officials alone.

Instead, the subpar educational environment that continues to exist in the Philadelphia Public School District should be blamed on the entire community of Philadelphia and Neshoba County, Mississippi. For decades, our community has turned a blind eye to obvious problems that have contributed to the abysmal educational circumstances we continue to place our children in day after day.

Families continue to skirt the residential requirements and leaders continue to sit idly by without addressing the issue. School choice will not be discussed, nor will the issue of consolidation be raised by school board leaders. So called leaders and community pillars are withholding their power to act and impact change. As a result of this inaction, children within the Philadelphia Public School District are being sent into an educational environment which is ripe for perpetual failure. Most parents recognize this fact and opt to find a way, legally or illegally, to send their child to a school not operated by the Philadelphia Public School District.

I have personal opinions regarding solutions to the issue that continues to plague our community. However, the purpose of this episode is not to tout our personal solutions to a very complex issue. Our intention is to spur a public discourse regarding the problem and hopefully begin discussions surrounding how we can better equip ALL of our young people for life in this ever changing world.

At The County Line, we believe difficult problems should be discussed publicly and potential solutions should be vetted out via transparent public discourse. It is our hope that a discussion focused on educational improvements for children in Philadelphia, Mississippi will be the result of this episode. We can and should do better for our children and their futures!

As always, The County Line welcomes discussion with and feedback from all parties who feel inclined to voice their opinion.

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Mary Ryan Brown is a comedian hailing from Hattiesburg, Mississippi. https://www.maryryanbrown.com/

Episode Time Stamps
Only woman comedian in Hattiesburg? (00:30)
Dallas comedy club (1:00)
Lee Carl stayed up until 7 AM (2:30)
Dream partying weekend for Lee? (3:00)
Flora-Bama and Bushwackers (4:00)
Flora-Bama hiring trans dancers? (5:15)
Mary Ryan's worst hangover (6:25)
Lee Carl's experience with white wine (7:45)
Lee's experience shopping for wedding attire (9:00)
Smelling new boots (11:00)
Mary Ryan loves to shop!! (12:30)
Mama gotta whole lotta drip!! (13:00)
Dudes have no style (14:00)
Most men never style themselves (15:00)
Lulu Lemon is "fuckin' fire!" (16:00)
Shout out to Mary Ryan's sister for making Mary Ryan presentable (18:00)
Mary Ryan's experience on debate team (19:30)
Overcoming insecurities (23:00)
SHOUT OUT TO GREAT PARENTS!! (25:30)
Mary Ryan likes TV (28:30)
Southerners put too much emphasis on weddings (30:30)
Weddings are fun when you're not in it (31:30)
Louisiana culture (32:30)
Mary Ryan loves Boosie Bad Azz (33:30)
Boosie on The County Line (35:30)
Rap and Comedy need free speech (36:30)
Lee Carl and Mary Ryan love Drake (37:45)
Beyonce? (39:45)
Lee Carl's favorite country ballads (42:00)
Amy Winehouse (43:00)
Lean into sadness (44:30)
Helping others helps with depression (47:00)
Mary Ryan's writing process (48:30)
Lee Carl's favorite comedians (52:00)
Theo Vonn one of the smartest people alive? (53:00)
Covington, Louisiana (54:00)
"When Evil Lived in Laurel" (55:15)
Sam Bowers was terrible! (56:30)
The KKK in Mississippi (57:30)
Hub City Comedy (1:00:00)
Lee Carl's second stand up open mic (1:01:00)
Mary Ryan's comedy journey (1:03:00)
Mary Ryan's Saenger performance (1:07:15)
New Orleans open mic (1:08:30)
Lafayette, Louisiana has the nicest people (1:10:00)
Homeless dude heckles Mary Ryan (1:12:45)
Lee's Baptist joke (1:15:30)
Comedy can be insulting to audience members (1:17:30)
Mary Ryan's family keeps her grounded (1:19:45)
Hubby helps Mary Ryan formulate jokes (1:22:00)
Comedy assisted Mary Ryan climb out of depression (1:23:30)
Joy Theater in New Orleans (1:25:20)
"I think I can be a stripper!" (1:26:00)
Lee Carl's Panama City strip club experience (1:28:30)
Double Puss in the strip club (1:29:30)
Cats vs Dogs (1:31:00)
"A dog is not a person!" (1:32:00)
Do dogs go to heaven? (1:34:00)
"We are related to apes." (1:35:30)
Upload Lee Carl's memory to a computer (1:36:30)
What happens when we die? (1:38:00)
Nobody knows where we go when we die (1:39:30)
And all God's children said, "Hail State!" (1:40:00)

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Holley Rumbarger is lead singer of Holley Rumbarger and The New Relics and host of Rough Draft Hattiesburg podcast. https://linktr.ee/holleyrumbarger

Holley, musician and podcaster, will soon be transitioning  from Hattiesburg, Mississippi to Nashville, Tennessee to further the pursuit of her career in entertainment.

This episode was recorded at The Author Shoppe in downtown Hattiesburg, Mississippi.

Episode Time Stamps
"Make It Quick" - Holley Rumbarger (0:00)
"Facing The Music" - Holley Rumbarger (3:35)
Moved to Nashville in March (8:30)
Trip to Japan (9:00)
Japanese people enjoy Southerners (10:45)
Holley's musical genre and influences (13:00)
Boosie's jail stint on Father's Day (14:45)
Holley's writing process (16:30)
"Bitch, I'm from the sticks!" (18:00)
The Vassals vibe (19:45)
Paul Cauthen (21:25)
Marty Stuart appearance? (23:15)
Roughdraft Hattiesburg podcast(25:00)
Harmony House podcast (26:30)
Podcast editing (28:45)
Harmony House podcast timeline (31:00)
Economic development in Hattiesburg (33:25)
Hub City Lofts (37:00)
Robert St. John and Nelson Haskin (37:00)
Magnetic effect of Hattiesburg, MS (40:00)
Reasoning for Holley's move to Nashville (41:00)
Lee's experience with calculus at Ole Miss (43:20)
Holley's academic journey (44:00)
Holley's journey to mandolin and guitar (46:45)
Stepping out of our comfort zone (48:30)
Are people destined for success? (50:00)
Recipe for success? (51:00)
Check your ego! (51:45)
Career based on validation (52:30)
Two types of people in Nashville (54:30)
Theme of Holley's debut album (56:25)
HARDY's start in Music City (59:00)
Heavy metal music (1:01:30)
Widespread shows (1:03:00)
Live hip-hop is not good (1:03:30)
Freestyle over Bass Nectar (1:05:15)
Sway In The Morning Freestyles (1:06:00)
Lainey Wilson speaks the gospel (1:07:10)
Perseverance pays (1:08:00)

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Nick Wallace is a professional chef based in Jackson, Mississippi. https://www.nickwallaceculinary.com/

Chef Nick is founder and executive chef of Nick Wallace Culinary, Nick Wallace Catering, and Nissan Cafe by Nick Wallace.

In addition to his successes as an executive chef, Nick has competed on eight national food shows throughout his entertainment career. Including but not limited to Top Chef, Chopped, and Cutthroat Kitchen.

Episode Time Stamps
Edwards, Mississippi and upbringing (1:30)
Chef Nick's pool capabilities (3:45)
Chef Nick's basketball history (5:15)
Did JPS prepare Nick for life? (7:30)
How Nick got started in the food service industry (9:00)
When did Nick begin taking a food career seriously? (10:30)
Is it difficult to become a chef in Mississippi? (13:30)
James Beard award pursuit (15:00)
Robert St. John (17:15)
Nick's Alaskan experience (20:00)
How did Nick lead people older than him? (22:00)
Leadership becomes second nature (25:00)
Nick's experience as an ambassador and activist (30:00)
Fake vs Real (31:00)
The Hard Way (31:30)
Nick's family history and influence (33:30)
Importance of having meaningful work (38:30)
How Nick found himself on Food Network (42:45)
Cutthroat Kitchen (45:25)
"That boy can only cook catfish and comeback sauce!" (47:00)
Importance of losing and using that as motivation (49:00)
Impacts of appearing on 8 national cooking shows (51:00)
"I am a superman!" (52:40)
How does a restaurant achieve a Michelin Star? (53:30)
Nick's belief Mississippi has the best hospitality in the world (55:30)
Mississippi vs everywhere else (58:00)
How did Nick incorporate French technique into overall approach? (59:30)
What type of cooking techniques are Mississippians known for? (1:00:30)
Slow food movement (1:01:45)
Chef Nick's relationship with New Orleans (1:04:30)
Mississippi food should be celebrated like New Orleans' (1:05:15)
Mississippi Gumbo (1:06:30)
How can we elevate our status as a "food state?" (1:07:45)
Competition is important (1:09:00)
Nick's birthday trip to New Orleans (1:11:45)
Did the pandemic cause a hospitality setback? (1:13:30)
Who's to blame for bad service in a restaurant? (1:15:30)
"It's all about the people!" (1:19:30)
What music is on Chef Nick's cooking playlist? (1:20:00)
Blues vs Southern Soul (1:22:45)
King George is great! (1:24:00)
Chef Nick's outlook and opinion on current state of Jackson, MS (1:26:00)
Why does Jackson continue to elect subpar leadership? (1:35:00)

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Lee Carl delves into the recent legal troubles surrounding Boosie Bad Azz, Southern Miss athletics, Methodism, and small town life in Mississippi.

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This County Line episode is book ended by two unreleased works by The Vassals:

"What It Ain't" and "The City"

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Episode Time Stamps
"What It Ain't" - The Vassals (0:00)
Boosie in legal trouble... again! (4:14)
Is Boosie Bad Azz at his best? (6:00)
Best Album of 2023 (8:30)
Boosie vs Mark Zuckerberg (10:00)
Why was Boosie arrested again? (11:00)
FREE BOOSIE BAD AZZ (14:25)
I just wanted to be an NFL quarterback (15:00)
Letting a dream go is hard (17:30)
Exploring other interests (19:45)
First open mic attempt (21:00)
Is a traditional job for me? (24:00)
SEC schedule release (26:00)
Can Southern Miss beat State? (28:00)
Will Hall to the SEC? (29:00)
USM vs Tennessee (33:30)
Methodists and gay preachers (38:00)
Should gay people be preachers? (39:30)
Freedom of worship (41:00)
Should women be preachers? (42:00)
Gay vs female preachers (43:00)
On the outside of Christianity looking in (45:00)
Alternative viewpoints should be respected (47:00)
Freedom of speech and thought are imperative (48:45)
Miscommunication = confusion (49:45)
Dolly Parton coming to Philadelphia, MS (51:00)
Congress of Country Music (52:00)
Small town growth (53:00)
Dating in small town Mississippi (54:30)
Why do people marry so early? (55:00)
ABRUPT ENDING TO EPISODE (55:30)
"The City" - The Vassals (55:45)

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