07/24/2022

Intro

Good evening America and Canada, welcome to Waterbreak. For those who are in crazy blue COVID states or Canada, the question I want to ask you this evening is “Are you a refugee or reinforcement?” My guest today is Pastor Dave Hatcher and most of the Waterbreak team is lined up and ready to deliver. So, grab your best scotch or Dr. Pepper and enjoy the show.

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Reinforcements or Refugees 

For those who are awake, understand that we are living in politically tumultuous times. This is particularly the case if you are living in coastal leftist states and Canada. San Diego School district has already declared students will be required to masks when school starts up a again, or they can choose Zoom school instead, DC will be requiring all students 12 and up to get the vaccine in order to attend in person classes, and Canada is resuming random COVID testing for air travelers….sort of like random TSA checks. Can you say theater COVID measures? As a side note, my friend Andrew DeBartolo, as he was flying back from the US into Canada, no one was required to wear masks until they started their descent into Toronto. So, for an hour and a half flight no one is wearing a mask and the Canadian government thinks they are fighting COVID by requiring people to wear masks the last 20min of the flight? Tyranny is not reasonable, which is why you resist it when it is in its infancy. 

Before we go any further, it has to be said that our countries, US and Canada, are in this position because fathers have abdicated their responsibilities, and the church has abdicated her responsibilities in various ways. We need to learn from this, that in God’s world, if we do not follow His designed order, and in this case we are talking about how he has ordered the church, family, and civil governments, than the imbalance created by the abdication will give room to one of the other governments taking over that abdicated space. The civil government has done this very thing, as both the church and family governments have abdicated their responsibilities. Now, if we want the government to shrink, the church and families need to repent right here, in this very spot.  

So, here we are. We have very difficult states like California and Washington, and in Canada the most conservative province was the province that was arresting pastors, and of course Ontario is just plain crazy. One of the things I am grateful for in all this, is that God in His kindness has brought together a lot of like minded pastors, churches, and families who understand the moment that we are in, and are trying to figure out what is the best way forward. The other thing that this COVID moment has revealed, is that a lot of Christians have put themselves in vulnerable situations and have realized that they need to make some big changes in their lives. These vulnerable situations include attending a church that has soft leadership, realizing your kids in public schools is not a good idea, not having a solide local community, fathers realizing that they have not led their family well, and so forth. This has caused a lot of social, economic, ecclesiatical and geographical movement in these last two years. A lot of people switched churches, moved to a different city, state or country, changed jobs, and more all because of the COVID shakeup. 

Now if you are in one of this commie government situations, there are two categories I want you to consider. Are you a reinforcement in your land or do you need to seek refugee status in a new community? Are you in a situation where you have a good church, a good community, a good “post” to fight from? Or are you in a position of weakness, with no church, no solid classical Christian school, or like-minded community? If You have a good post to fight from, don’t leave, don’t abandon that post. Stay and fight, be an encouragement to your pastor, run for city council, figure out ways to push back.   

My guest this evening is Pastor Dave Hatcher   

Dave attended Washington State University where he graduated with a BA in Business Administration. He also has three years post-graduate work at Greyfriars Hall in Moscow, ID, in their pastoral training program. Dave is the Pastor of Trinity Church. Dave and his wife, Kim, have six children; five of whom are Providence graduates. Welcome to the show Pastor Dave. 

You are a pastor in one of those difficult states, the state of Washington, how has your church been thinking about these last two years, and what it looks like moving forward? 

How do you counsel a family that is processing should “I stay or move out of Washington”? 

We have emailed in the past about this subject, and I have been encouraged how positive you are about leading a church in a difficult state like Washington. Why are you so positive about your state, when they have fined your schools and made things very difficult for you? 

Waterbreak team:

Rhett Burns

When you put into context your work as a missionary to Turkey, you went into a situation that was worse, than lets say my previous guest who lives in the state of Washington. Given the context of the difference between reinforcement and refugee, Why did you go? 

Jacob Daniels

You moved from India to the US, leaving a country 

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My prayer and goal for Waterbreak, is that you are encouraged to find ways to engage with your gifts and abilities, to lead with your faith and not hide it under a bushel, and to live out the Lordship of Christ in every area of life, particularly in the public square. I pray God uses you to change your city, your state, and our country.

This is the Waterboy with Waterbreak, until next Sunday, go Fight Laugh and Feast.