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Year in, year out maybe 150 credit unions go out of business, mainly as a result  of mergers, but a few voluntarily close and NCUA sometimes shuts a few doors.

Year in, year out new credit unions spring to life.  Two or three every year.  

Do the math,.  It’s grim.  It’s not a pleasant look into credit union futures.

Now listen to Ben Hering, formerly director of engagement at the Minnesota Credit Union Network, where he helped birth Arise Credit Union. He now is director of CU System Partnerships at consultancy CuCollaborate where his focus is on helping to stimulate the development of de novo credit unions and his near-term goal is to double today’s birth rate.

How? In today’s show he tells how and he also acknowledges the hurdles.

This isn’t an easy task to take on but, as Hering says, he’s helped do it before and he expresses optimism that he can do it again.

He will need help from many corners. Including, notably, vendors to credit unions but also the regulators and politicians.

Is Hering’s a Sisyphean pursuit?  

A cautionary tale is the story of Maine Harvest, a de novo credit union featured in episode 8 of this show.  Hold the applause.  Maine Harvest did successfully launch.  But within a couple years it unfurled a white flag and merged into a bigger Maine credit union.

But, for now, Hering’s is an optimistic voice.  

And many more new credit unions would indeed be a wonderful thing.

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In the first half of 2026 credit union mergers were down, admits Peter Duffy, a mergers expert now with Strategic Resource Management - but don’t expect that to be a permanent downturn.

Mergers will pick up and there will continue to be big credits merging with big credit unions.

Duffy, who has guested on the show multiple times before, is one of the leading experts on the subject of credit union mergers.  On this episode he tells why there’s been a slowing in 2026, and also why it seems an inevitability that we will see renewed interest among credit unions in doing a merger.

It was just a handful of years ago when a credit union merger was something of a rarity and when it did occur it usually was what I have long called a mercy marriage - some might call it a shotgun wedding - which meant a big credit union swallowed a little one at the request of a regulator.

What’s different now is that many - most? - credit unions have begun to see merger as a strategic gambit that just might be the right path into a more successful future.

Hear the full story about mergers in 2026 - listen up!

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We need more business members!

That could count as a credit union chant of the last decade but a reality is that many credit unions have simply not achieved their goals in terms of enrolling more business members.

Enter Goodbuy, which describes itself as “the game changing solution for credit unions, accelerating new SMB account openings.”

Now know this: Boise based Goodbuy in June registered as a CUSO and in the process it closed on a $1 million investment from One Washington Financial (OWF), Reseda Group (a wholly owned CUSO of Michigan State University Federal Credit Union), Maps Credit Union and Together Credit Union.

One Washington Financial itself is a CUSO, wholly owned by Washington State Employees Credit Union and its mission is investing in the future of credit union innovation.

On this show is Scott Daukas, chief partnership officer at One Washington Financial and himself a past guest on this podcast.

Daukas explains why One Washington Financial invested in Goodbuy - WSECU itself is implementing the Goodbuy platform - and he adds that he envisions very good things for credit unions that work with Goodbuy.

Also on the show is Goodbuy CEO Cara Oppenheimer who says that Goodbuy is a credit union-branded community marketplace that helps credit unions offer exclusive local business discounts to members, creating a unique differentiator against traditional banks while driving deposit growth and engagement.

Sound good?  

Oppenheimer tells the details - and she details Goodbuy successes with Michigan State University Federal Credit Union which has launched its Hello, Local which helps local businesses offer special deals to MSUFCU members, making this a win-win-win for the business, the consumer member and the credit union.

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You know the sad story of IBEW Local Union 712 Federal Credit Union in Beaver PA in 2020.  In an institution with assets of $7.7 million the CE) managed to run up $2,1 million in credit card debt. And in May 2020 NCUA conserved the credit union.  

RIP.

Except now Andy Janning, a longtime credit union expert, is on the case with a new podcast OVERDRAWN that focuses on the human costs, systemic failures, and real world consequences of this credit union failure and also on the continuing impacts on the credit union that absorbed the remains of the IBEW credit union, West Penn P & P Federal Credit Union, also in Beaver.

Janning’s approach is not what’s expected.  The obvious approach is to focus on the NCUA’s failure of oversight and also on the failure of the Supervisory Committee.  Janning does not ignore these threads but his vision is aimed at other elements of the story, elements that often are ignored.

Janning above all is focused on the human impacts and the stories of the people who lived through the failure of the IBEW credit union and also on West Penn employees.

His show features many of these voices.  You will hear from the people themselves.  

Listen up to this episode, the CU 2.0 show.  And also give a listen to Janning’s Overdrawn podcast. There’s a link in the show notes.

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What does a credit union lobbyist do?  On the show to answer that question is Ibby Dickson, manager of federal advocacy at the League of Credit Unions, a multi-state league representing credit unions in Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Virginia and there’s a merger in the works with the League of Maryland and the District of Columbia.

Can credit unions get their message across in today’s Washington DC?  Spoiler alert but Dickson emphatically believes many on the Hill are indeed receptive to credit union messaging.

A case in point is how the League communicates its messages around the housing affordability crisis, a topic Dickson explored in a recent CUInsight article.

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Casap was the best of show winner at Finovate fall 2025 and its business is this: building AI Agents for Disputes ‍and Fraud resolution and it now has 50+ clients that it won with attention grabbing claims: Resolve claims in minutes, not weeks. Earn lasting loyalty. Cut fraud losses.

This is a universe undergoing immense change, mainly due to the rise of so-called first party fraud which has surged globally. This is in contradistinction to third party fraud and that of course is when a third party has hijacked another’s credit card or debit card and made fraudulent purchases.

First party fraud is when the cardholder denies the legitimacy of a charge he or she in fact actually made.

What? You go out on a date.  It’s a bad date.  With a bad meal that you put on your credit card and when you see that charge pop up on your statement you call the issuer and say, wasn’t me.

And card issuers are struggling to contain and minimize this first party fraud.

Which is where Casap enters.

On the show are Shanthi Shanmugam, CEO of Casap, and Rob Keatts, EVP of Chartway  Credit Union in Virginia, a $3.1 billion institution. The show opens with only Rob on the line and we take advantage of that to ask him to tell the whole truth about the pain point that prompted Chartway to bring Casap on board and how it was working with a startup - and understand Chartway was Casap’s second customer!

Of course Shanthi joins a few minutes later and she’ll tell you what you need to know about containing credit card and debit card fraud - and how agentic AI, Casap’s forte, makes the process work more smoothly.

Filene seconds that motion, as noted in this press release headline: Chartway Credit Union Saved an Estimated $875K in One Year, Testing a Fraud Dispute Automation Fintech.

Shanthi by the way is a return guest.  She stars in Episode 359 and Casap has taken huge strides in the year since.  Its client count is now 50+ and she has enormous ambition for what she believes the AI agents Casap is building can accomplish.

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There are times when credit union discussions about AI and how it’s transforming their operations detour into a reprise of the classic Wendy’s commercial: Where’s the beef?

That is: where are the measurable benefits arising from AI use?

And then into my email box pops an email from Christian Klacko, CEO of Kintera AI, who says his tools can be integrated into a credit union’s backoffice operations in 10 days and that the results come quickly.

What results?  In a case study Kintera clicks off results attained by an anonymous $3.5 billion credit union:

• A 90% reduction in file review time - from 20 minutes to two
• Big savings result for credit unions: $250,000 in the first year at the anonymous credit union

There are still more plusses ticked off by Klacko in the show.

Skeptical?  Also on the show is Kris VanBeek, now CEO at Massachusetts based Rockland Federal Credit Union, soon to be renamed Arise Financial as of August 1.  Rockland has been using Kintera tools for some months and VanBeek sings the praises of these AI tools - and he also talks about the reactions of employees as they put AI into action.

Understand it’s considered rude to ask a credit union exec if his institution is the anonymous one and of course I didn’t ask.

For the record, Arise Financial (nee Rockland Federal Credit Union) is a $3.7 billion institution.

Longtime listeners will recall that VanBeek is a past guest.  He was in episode 172 in 2021 talking about Bank Dora, an innovative neo bank created by USAlliance, where VanBeek was CEO, and three other institutions.  

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I will admit it, when I first heard about BNPL - buy now pay later - I snorted that layaway had died years ago.

I was wrong.

BNPL has become a huge marketplace.  Federal Reserve data pegs it at around $160 billion in consumer credit products. And the scary bit for credit unions is that fintechs own over 90% of that market and they aren’t sharing with FIs.

Enter Equipifi which has as its mission empowering credit unions and community banks to offer BNPL to their members and customers.

Equipifi founder Bryce Deeney was on the show five years ago and again three years ago to discuss the market.

That market keeps growing and more credit unions are recognizing that BNPL just may appeal to a cohort of their membership -- and it may also attract new members.

Flashforward and on the show now is Lo Smith, a past podcast guest when she worked at a different company. Now she is VP, Head of Revenue at Equipifi and she is here to update us on the state of BNPL today.

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Corning Credit Union knew the answers it wanted were in the data on its Symitar core - the problem was getting the answers expeditiously so the information could be put to use when it was wanted.

That wasn’t happening. Literally weeks could pass before the wanted information was in hand.

Couldn’t it be faster?  Corning Credit Union got in touch with startup Tursio.  

In this show Tursio co-founder and CEO Alekh Jindal tells about the solution his company crafted that lets natural language prompts get the information out of the core that employees need and it all happens quickly.  Note: there’s no need to submit a ticket, no need to know code, no need to wait weeks.  

How does it work? Jindal explains.

Along the way he also tells the story of the company’s birth and he reveals what happens in a founder’s mind that leads to a company’s creation.

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Agentic AI is coming to credit unions and Saris AI is helping lead the charge.

What is Agentic AI? Agentic AI acts as an agent that autonomously executes multi-step workflows.  That is, Agentic AI does.  It doesn’t tell you what to do.  It does it for you.

Saris AI says it can automate 70% of tedious, complex back office tasks.  It delivers a 300% productivity increase. And 9.8x cost reduction.

A core focus is lending, but Saris AI also helps with other areas of credit union operations that would benefit from automation. And that’s lots of places.

Does that sound like a revolution?

On the show are Danial Jameel, Saris CEO and a co-founder, and Chase Clelland, SVP of People and AI at Grow Financial FCU, a $3.8 billion institution headquartered in Florida.

Note that Clelland talks at length not only about the benefits of this agentic AI but how to prep employees in working with it.  And Grow’s policy is no staff reductions due to AI implementations.  It’s a good story about how to improve employee acceptance of these new tools that indeed represent an unfolding workplace revolution.

As for exactly what’s involved in the revolution - the technology - Jameel is the man to tell what this means for credit unions.

Know this: Clelland is adamant that the credit unions that are embracing AI will soon be in a much better place than those that don’t.

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