Disciple-making rarely fizzles because people stop caring — it fizzles because nothing around them supports what they're trying to do. In this episode Cynthia Anderson and Jenn Chang explore why team and church culture are essential to sustaining multiplication, what leaders get wrong, and one honest diagnostic question every practitioner needs to sit with. Practical, story-driven, and for anyone who wants to build something that outlasts them. 📖 Free guide mentioned in this episode: 3 Mindset Shifts That Unlock Multiplication — resources.daretomultiply.com/3mindsetshifts

David Broodryk's mind left the building one Sunday morning, mid-sermon. He tells it like it's the most ordinary thing in the world — like of course that's how God finally got his attention. His mind rose up over the ten million people packed into the sprawl between Johannesburg and Pretoria, and he heard himself ask a question he'd never asked before: not how do I grow my church, but what would it actually take to reach this city?

David's insights on complexity, relational poverty, and finding your own person of peace will give you something practical to carry into this week.

Learn more or connect with David at davidbroodryk.org

Two hundred million. That’s the number of believers now worshiping and being discipled inside movements around the world — double what researcher Justin Long reported the last time he joined me on this podcast.

Justin serves as Director of Research for Beyond and plays a key role in the 24:14 Coalition, the global collaboration working toward a movement strategy for every unreached people and place. In this conversation, he walks me through how that number actually gets verified — a story that involves a room full of practitioners, stacks of paper, and one very content introvert who traded his conference “fun day” for a weekend with spreadsheets. We talk about why 24:14 is retiring the old “2% reached” benchmark for a tougher new standard called “going green,” and why the goal was never meant to be a countdown to Jesus’ return, but simple obedience to what He already told us to do.

Wherever you’re leading — a congregation in the Midwest or the first handful of believers in a place that’s never had a movement before — you’ll walk away with a sharper prayer list and a next step for getting relationally connected to what God is doing.

Stick around after the interview for our Diving Deeper segment with Justin, available for Dare to Multiply members, where we go further into the trends, the risks, and the research disagreements shaping the movement world right now.

Learn more or get in touch with Justin at justinlong.org or 2414now.net.

Nearly half of practicing Christians already trust AI with their spiritual growth. This isn't the "should we use it" debate — that's settled. It's an honest look at where AI helps the real work of multiplication, and where it quietly substitutes for the thing disciple-making can't do without: a person, present, calling another person toward obedience. Read the companion blog post: "The Line AI Can't Cross in Disciple-Making"

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Cynthia names the guilt and pressure that can creep into disciple-making — and the tension every multiplier has to hold between fruitfulness and unconditional love.

A young woman Cynthia discipled in Nepal went on to lead a friend to Christ — who became a church planter among a people group that had never had a gospel witness before. In this episode, Cynthia breaks down the four specific things she did that let that chain keep multiplying, traces the same pattern through Paul, Priscilla, Aquila, and Apollos in Acts 18, and makes the case that most discipleship in the West never gets the chance to multiply because it never leaves the classroom.

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In this episode, Jenn shares practical lessons learned from years of facilitating DBS groups among both believers and nonbelievers in Thailand. You'll hear how DBS empowers ordinary believers to make disciples, answers to common concerns, and why trusting the Holy Spirit is often harder—and more important—than having all the answers.

Steve Addison has spent decades tracking what actually makes disciples and churches multiply — and his conclusion is simple: movements rise and fall on how closely they follow the life and ministry of Jesus. In this conversation, Cynthia Anderson talks with Steve about his book Everywhere, the ordinary people who carry these movements, the only thing that truly multiplies, and the honest cost of pursuing it. A hopeful, grounded conversation for pastors, practitioners, and anyone longing to see multiplication right where they are.

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You can be busy. You can even be growing. And still not be multiplying.

In this episode, Cynthia talks honestly about what it actually costs to move from addition to multiplication — not the theory, but the moment you have to let go of a system you built, invested in, and were proud of, because it wasn't producing what it looked like it should. She walks through two patterns many leaders don't even realize they're still running on: a structure built for slow, careful addition, and a discipleship habit — going deep with one person, alone — that can quietly block the very multiplication it's meant to produce.

This works the same whether you're leading a congregation in the Midwest or training leaders in a movement context overseas. The system is just dressed differently.

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We spend enormous energy diagnosing why discipleship isn't multiplying — new methods, better training, stronger leadership pipelines. But there's one step that almost every Western ministry has quietly set aside, and every significant Disciple Making Movement in history points back to it.

In this episode, Cynthia Anderson names the two specific prayer practices that movement leaders carry and most Western leaders have traded away: intentional, daily prayer for named lost people, and extraordinary prayer that positions dependence as the real work — not the warm-up.

This is honest, practical, and drawn from 35 years on the ground. Whether you're a pastor, a practitioner on the field, or someone working with immigrant and refugee communities in a Western city, the re-entry point is the same. Five names. Start there.

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