The Skies We’re Under

The Dark Side: How Therapies can Harm with Amy Hogan | S4 | E40


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Join us for the brilliance of Professional Geek Amy Hogan, she’ll make you rethink and reframe disability, and help bridge that gap between the experiences of a parent of a disabled child and the experience of the disabled person themselves.

After the usual catch up with Sarah and Lucy, Rachel talks to Amy about the limitations of interventions like physiotherapy and the need for mental health support for parents and children processing a life they hadn’t imagined. She discusses the outcomes we really should be focusing on with our children, as well as challenging concepts around disability and helping us to confront our own (and other people’s) Ableism.

There is SO much we cover, that we’ve had to split this episode in two. Join us on Friday for our bonus episode where Rachel, Sarah and Lucy reflect on the magnificent wisdom of Amy.

You can find more about Amy and research and writing here.

and the wonderful Maori terms for Cerebral Palsy here.

Thanks to Jiraffe for sponsoring this week's episode. You can find more about them and their work here.

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