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The DC Today - Monday, July 17, 2023


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Economic Front

One of the economists I read every day who has been screaming non-stop for 18 months now that we are entering a recession sent a “reminder” email this morning that we are “still likely” to enter a recession. And maybe we are. First of all, broken clocks and all that stuff. But secondly, I think the question about if and when we enter a recession now misses the point. Short term, these people obviously don’t know. Additionally, no one knows what it would mean to markets if we did. No one. But longer term, we don’t need to know if there is a Q4 2023 or a Q1 2024 recession to know that we do face significant excessive indebtedness that matters for the next 10, 20, 30 years. I remain mystified by why these chicken littles can’t focus on a long term reality we do know versus a short term reality we do not.

Consumer confidence jumped to 72.6 from 64.4 last month in the latest University of Michigan Consumer Confidence survey. This is the highest since September of 2021. Current conditions and expectations were both higher. Two quick caveats: (a) I have always found consumer confidence to be worthless; (2) Pre-COVID it was at 101, so putting the index in perspective, it is ahead of expectations, ahead of recent prints, and yet well below prior level.

China’s Q2 GDP growth missed expectations, coming in at +6.3% year-over-year but slowing to just 0.8% from Q1’s growth rate (which had been +2.2%(, which was a surprise. Retail sales are not huge, capex is muted (as their property sector stumbles), and youth unemployment is over 21%.

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