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Episode 7 of Season 6 - The Animal Protagonist

Surprise guest host, Nanette McCann interviews me about the difficulties and successes of discovering animal friendships. 

Guest Host: Nanette McCann joined Homeward Pet as the Executive Director in 2018.  It was Homeward Pet’s reputation for community engagement and volunteer dedication that spoke to Nanette’s personal values over her 30+ year career as a non-profit professional.

It was Nanette’s first career in radio broadcasting that actually got her interested in working in non-profit as a career.  After 10 years as an on-air personality, championing for many organizations and experiencing the passion and commitment of volunteers and non-profit staff, Nanette made the transition to mission based work.

Nanette is the mom of five human children and two fur-babies, Frankie and Ursula.

Marika's Book Recommendation: Thinking with Animals: New Perspectives on Anthropomorphism Edited by Lorraine Daston and Gregg Mitman 

Anthropomorphism or Egomorphism? The Perception of Non-human Persons By Human Ones by Kay Milton 

Host: Marika holds an MA in Anthrozoology, a BS in Zoology, and a CPDT-KA. She has lived in four different countries exploring the many connections between humans and other animals.
Now, she enjoys chatting with academics, authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts about their research, stories, and experiences with other animals.

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor.

This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network 

This podcast was produced on Historical Tribal Land of the Quinault Indian Nation and The Snoqualmie Tribe Ancestral Lands

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Episode 6 in Series 6: The Animal Protagonist

Have you ever wondered if other-than-human animals experience grief? We explore this question and other about emotion in non-human animals with Dr. Barbara King. 

Guest: Barbara J. King is Emerita Professor of Anthropology at William & Mary and a freelance science writer and public speaker. The author of seven books, including Animals' Best Friends: Putting Compassion to Work for Animals in Captivity and the Wild, Barbara focuses on animal emotion and cognition, the ethics of our relationships with animals, and the evolutionary history of language, culture, and religion. Her book How Animals Grieve has been translated into 7 languages and her TED talk on animal love and grief has now received over 3 1/2 million views. Barbara’s work has appeared in Scientific American, Aeon, and Undark, and she regularly reviews books for NPR and the TLS. She tweets about animals, science, and books  https://twitter.com/bjkingape. To learn more, visit her website at www.barbarajking.com

Book Recommendations: The God Good Pig: The Extraordinary Life of Christopher Hogwood  and The Soul of an Octopus: A Surprising Exploration into the Wonder of Consciousness by Sy Montgomery

Also of mention: Wonderdog: The Science of Dogs and Their Unique Friendship with Humans by Jules Howard

Alpha Wolf Idea- David Mech Website

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with pe

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Miniseries: Pacific Northwest Wildlife Corridors  (Part 2)

We will explore the waters of the Puget sound in a current and ongoing project meant to improve critical habitat of the Southern Resident Killer Whales. 

Guest: Rachel Aronson is the Quiet Sound Program Director at Washington Maritime Blue, a NGO that seeks to accelerate the sustainability and equity of the blue economy. Quiet Sound, founded in 2021, seeks to better understand and mitigate the impacts of large commercial vessels, such as cargo, ferry and cruise ships, on the endangered Southern Resident Killer Whales in Washington State. Quiet Sound is a state-wide coalition of local, state, federal and tribal governments, the maritime sector and conservation NGOs. Rachel holds an M.M.A. from the University of Washington’s School of Marine and Environmental Affairs, as well as a B.A. in Biology and Hispanic Studies from the University of Pennsylvania.

Book Recommendations: Orca: How We Came to Know and Love the Ocean's Greatest Predator by Jason M. Colby

Orca Rescue!: The True Story of an Orphaned Orca Named Springer by Donna Sandstrom 

The Sea Is My Country: The Maritime World of the Makahs (The Henry Roe Cloud Series on American Indians and Modernity)   by Joshua L. Reid

https://maritimeblue.org/quiet-sound/

Episode 48: Bioacoustics

Orca Network

The Whale Trail   

Exploding Whale 

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

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Miniseries: Pacific Northwest Wildlife Corridors (Part 1)

In this episode we get hyperlocal with Sally Lawrence and discuss the Save Coal Creek project in Bellevue, Washington. This is an important natural area to the Greater Seattle Area and King County. This is a time sensitive issue with a rally and important decision coming up in the next few weeks (Ep. Pub Jan 16th 2023).  

Guest: Sally Lawrence is a volunteer naturalist and salmon watcher for the City of Bellevue. She has a B.A. in Biology from Brown University and M.S. in Biological Oceanography from University of Rhode Island. Before retiring, she was a water quality specialist for Washington Department of Ecology. She loves traveling that involves hiking and learning new cultures, and Chinese food. And American dippers!

Book Recommendations: Nature's Best Hope" A New Approach to Conservation That starts in Your Yard by Douglas Tallamy

The Urbanist article- Maps of the area

Save Coal Creek Info

Sign the Petition!

Rally Info Feb 11th

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

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Episode 5 of Series 6: The Animal Protagonist  

Often predatory behavior in your family pet is considered a undesirable behavior. Most people try to suppress predatory behavior but Simone is going to talk to us about the importance of predatory behavior and how to use what she calls predation substitute training for dogs who absolutely love to chase things In a world where that's not always seen as ideal!

Guest: Simone Müller, MA is a certified dog trainer and dog behaviour consultant (ATN.AG) from Germany. She specializes in force-free anti-predation training and is the author of the two books of the Predation Substitute Training series “Hunting Together” and “Rocket Recall”. Simone is proud to be an Associate Trainer at the Scotland-based Lothlorien Dog Training Club (AT-LDTC) and a member of both the Pet Professional Guild (PPG) and the Pet Dog Trainers of Europe (PDTE). Learn more: http://www.predation-substitute-training.com 

Follow Simone’s work on Facebook and Instagram: #predationsubstitutetraining 

Book Recommendation: The Emotional Lives of Animals: A Leading Scientist Explores Animal sorrow, Joy and Empathy-- and Why They Matter by Marc Bekoff

Jesus Christ Fenton

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

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Episode 4 of Series 7: The Animal Protagonist

I talk with the fascinating Dr. Simon (pronounced Simo) Gadbois, about the canid nose and the complicated relationship humans have with dogs.  

Guest: Simon Gadbois integrates ethology, animal experimental psychology, and behavioural neuroscience to study wild and domestic canids. He completed his Ph.D. in behavioural endocrinology at the Canadian Centre for Wolf Research (CCWR) examining the hormonal correlates of social behaviour in wolves, as well as action sequences in wolves, coyotes and red foxes. When the CCWR closed in 2007, he started the Canid Behaviour Research Lab at Dalhousie University and focused his research on coyote-human conflicts and canine scent detection and search. He is interested in the fundamental science of olfaction and olfactory learning, as well as some applications: His lab has focused on environmental/conservation, biomedical, and forensic applications of scent processing in dogs.

Book Recommendation: Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers, Third Edition by Robert M. Sapolsky

How the Dog Became the Dog: From Wolves to Our Best Friends  by Mark Derr, Man Meets Dog by Konrad Lorenz

Related Episodes: Conservation Detection Dogs with Kayla Fratt of Conservation K9

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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Ep 50- Special Encore Episode. Bringing back a listener (and personal) favorite episode for "the good old days" (2021). 

Pertinent to this time of year (not just for animal welfare workers), a lot of us are promising too much and feeling like we're delivering too little. We really need to think a little bit about self-care and instead we're thinking about everybody else in our lives that we could help, and good for us That's awesome. However sometimes it can feel like a lot. Things get overwhelming, and fatigue can set in. When we're in this state, we are not fun, we are not relaxed, And if you're like me you ultimately regret not doing better. So this episode is for everyone who just feels a little overwhelmed at the moment or maybe with life in general and could use a bit of a perspective change.

Guest: Hilary Hager has spent the last twenty years managing volunteers in animal welfare environments and currently serves as the Vice President of Outreach, Engagement and Training at the Humane Society of the United States. Engaging volunteers in meaningful work to make the world a more humane place is Hilary’s passion and life’s work. She teaches compassion fatigue workshops around the country to help provide members of the animal protection community the support and resources to maintain their own well-being while working in a challenging and emotionally-charged environment.

Book Recommendation: 

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor.

This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network 

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Episode 3 in Series 6: The Animal Protagonist 

We explore the lives and lifestyles of free living dogs with Anthrozoologist, Author, and Dog Behaviour Expert, Sindhoor Pangal. 

Guest: Sindhoor is a canine behaviour consultant, Galen myotherapist, an independent ethology researcher, an engineer by qualification and an educator in Bangalore, India. She is a TEDx speaker, the author of the book, Dog Knows and an independent ethology researcher studying the free-living dogs in India. Sindhoor is the founder of BHARCS. BHARCS offers a UK-accredited level 4 diploma on canine behaviour and ethology and boasts of students from all parts of India and across the globe. Sindhoor is also the country representative for Pet Dog Trainers of Europe (PDTE) and is currently pursuing her masters in Anthrozoology from Exeter University (UK). 

Book Recommendation: Dog Knows by Sindhoor Pangal 

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell

Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor.

This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network 

This podcast was produced on Historical Tribal Land of the Quinault Indian Nation and The Snoqualmie Tribe Ancestral Lands

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Episode 2 of Series 6: The Animal Protagonist 

This episode is about the world from a the perspective of marine animals. Particularly how their acoustic environment effects their perceptions, health, and ability to find food and mates. we will be talking about who is talking in the world below the waves and what they are saying. Also; air Guns, mass strandings, climate change effects, Humpback Whales, Bearded Seals, Southern Resident Orcas, electric boat motors and ways to keep things quiet. 

Guest: Dr. Fournet's research interests are in animal communication, the impact of anthropogenic noise on animal behavior, and how interspecies interactions manifest acoustically. She works primarily in the marine realm, but is generally interested in using acoustics to investigate questions of applied ecological significance and to disseminate science to the greater public.

For her graduate work she investigated humpback whale (Megaptera novaeangliae) acoustic ecology and the impact of vessel noise on humpback whale calling behavior in Southeast Alaska.

As a postdoctoral researcher at the Cornell Lab’s  K. Lisa Yang Center for Conservation Bioacoustics (CCB), she is using acoustics to understand community dynamics in Florida Bay, Everglades National Park, with an emphasis on sonic fishes.

Former projects include humpback whale and killer whale photo-identification and citizen-science program development in Juneau, Alaska, the coordination and development of a marine mammal observation effort in Oregon’s near-shore ocean, and the analysis long-term acoustic data sets from Alaska’s Beaufort Sea, where she investigated seasonal presence of bowhead whales (Balaena mysticetus) and arctic seals.

Book Recommendation: Whale by Joe Roman

https://www.birds.cornell.edu/ccb/michelle-fournet/

https://soundsciencecollective.org/

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiast

www.jonathanbalcombe.com
What a Fish Knows (NYTimes bestseller)
Super Fly (National Outdoor Book Award winner)
Jake and Ava: A Boy and a Fish (illustrated children's book)

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Episode 1 of Series 6: The Animal Protagonist

I'm talking to Dr Mariska Kret about how its possible to study the emotions of humans and other apes. The implications of this research is wide and the method more objective than you might think. 

Guest: Dr. Mariska Kret (PI) works as a full professor at the Cognitive Psychology Unit of Leiden University, where she directs the CoPAN lab. After MSc degrees in Cognitive Psychology (2006) and in Clinical Psychology (2007) from Leiden University, Kret started her PhD trajectory at Tilburg University where she investigated the perception of emotions (2011). Since then, her research expanded to comparative studies in great apes and patients with mental disorders. She has demonstrated that many of the facets constituting emotion processing are evolutionary ancient, and shared with great apes, our closest living relatives. In her ERC Starting project she investigates the role of emotional expressions in the establishment of trust. Her VIDI extends that research to clinical populations (autism and social anxiety disorder). In her research she typically combines different methods including fMRI, psychophysiology and behavioural observations.  Reaching out to the general public and open science practices are of utmost importance to her.   https://www.mariskakret.com/

Book Recommendation: The Expression of the Emotions in Man and Animals by Charles Darwin and How to Study Animal Minds by Kristin Andrews

The Ape Who Went to College 

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for t

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Super Fly (National Outdoor Book Award winner)
Jake and Ava: A Boy and a Fish (illustrated children's book)

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