Marcia Langton, AO, PhD, FASSA, is an anthropologist and geographer of Yiman descent form Queensland. She is one of Australia’s most eminent policy advisors and public intellectuals. She has worked at the University of Melbourne since 2000, where she is now Associate Provost, a Redmond Barry Distinguished Professor, and the Foundation Chair of Australian Indigenous Studies. She was Co-chair of the Voice Co-Design Senior Advisory Group with Professor Tom Calma during the Morrison government. She co-hosts this podcast, The Deep End with Marcia Langton and Aaron Corn, and recently co-authored the book, Law: The Way of the Ancestors (2023), with Aaron Corn for Thames and Hudson: https://thamesandhudson.com.au/product/first-knowledges-law-the-way-of-the-ancestors/.

Producer: Patrick Telfer. Line Producer: Samuel Curkpatrick. Music composed and performed by: Cameron Deyell and Reuben Lewis. Image credit: Celeste de Clario. Director: Aaron Corn. Executive Producer: Marcia Langton. 

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Sheelagh Daniels-Mayes, PhD, is a Lecturer in the Faculty of Arts Indigenous Studies Program at the University of Melbourne. She is a Gamilaraay woman who became vision impaired after having measles as a child. Her PhD of 2016 investigated how to successfully teach Aboriginal students. Her current work is framed within Indigenous Knowledge and draws on her previous studies of education, psychology, sociology and criminology. She is passionate about higher education as a means of empowering disenfranchised and under-served people and communities. Before entering academia, she worked with the National Disability Insurance Scheme, the Adelaide City Council Access and Inclusion Panel, the South Australian Minister’s Disability Advisory Committee, the New South Wales Department of Corrective Services, the AIDS Council of New South Wales, the Salvation Army, and the Oasis Youth Support Network. This week, she was awarded her first project grant from the Australian Research Council with Aaron Corn and Anthea Skinner, which aims to improve life outcomes for Indigenous people living with a disability through university education. 

Producer: Patrick Telfer. Line Producer: Samuel Curkpatrick. Music composed and performed by: Cameron Deyell and Reuben Lewis. Image credit: Celeste de Clario. Director: Aaron Corn. Executive Producer: Marcia Langton. 

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Robbie Bundle is CEO of the Songlines Music Aboriginal Corporation in Melbourne, which produces some of Victoria’s largest Indigenous music events and runs a dedicated youth program to nurture tomorrow’s Indigenous artists. He has been a musician and songwriter for more than 35 years. He describes his music as ‘eclectic’ and sings stories of Black Australia with the aim of effecting positive societal change. He has collaborated with many other notable musicians, including Archie Roach, Bart Willoughby, Kutcha Edwards, Dave Arden, Shane Howard, Dave Steele, and Neil Murray. 

Producer: Patrick Telfer. Line Producer: Samuel Curkpatrick. Music composed and performed by: Cameron Deyell and Reuben Lewis. Image credit: Celeste de Clario. Director: Aaron Corn. Executive Producer: Marcia Langton. 

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Anne Pattel-Gray, PhD DD, is Professor of Indigenous Studies and inaugural Head of the School of Indigenous Studies at the University of Divinity. She is a descendant of the Bidjara Karikari people of Queensland. She has held numerous leadership and consultancy roles in First Nations and not-for-profit organisations, including the World Council of Churches. In 1995, she was the first Aboriginal person to be awarded a PhD by the University of Sydney, published by Oxford University Press as The Great White Flood: Racism in Australia in 1998. She has held Visiting Professorships at Gurukul Theological Seminary, Harvard University, and Otago University. She has been a critical and influential activist in seeking justice and equality for Indigenous peoples and developing cultural frameworks and practices built on respect for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities. 

Producer: Patrick Telfer. Line Producer: Samuel Curkpatrick. Music composed and performed by: Cameron Deyell and Reuben Lewis. Image credit: Celeste de Clario. Director: Aaron Corn. Executive Producer: Marcia Langton. 

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Asmi Wood is a Professor and the Sub-Dean (Indigenous) in the College of Law at the Australian National University. His research and publications mainly concern constitutional recognition for Indigenous people in Australia and Indigenous participation in higher education. The Australian Parliament, government agencies, community organisations, schools and Indigenous groups regularly use his research. He won the 2015 Neville Bonner Award for Indigenous Education. 

Producer: Patrick Telfer. Line Producer: Samuel Curkpatrick. Music composed and performed by: Cameron Deyell and Reuben Lewis. Image credit: Celeste de Clario. Director: Aaron Corn. Executive Producer: Marcia Langton. 

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Rachel Perkins is an Australian film-and-television director, producer, and screenwriter. She directed the films Radiance (1998), One Night the Moon (2001), Bran Nue Dae (2010), and Jasper Jones (2017). She is an Arrernte and Kalkatungu woman from Central Australia, who was raised in Canberra by the Aboriginal leader Charles Perkins and his wife Eileen. She founded Blackfella Films in 1992, which has produced acclaimed television programmes, including First Australians, Mabo, and Redfern Now. She has served as a Commissioner of the Australian Film Commission and on the Board of Screen Australia. She was Curator for the 2009 Message Sticks Indigenous Film Festival and was President of the AIATSIS Foundation for the Australian Institute of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Studies. Her Boyer Lecture of 2019 was called The End of Silence. She is presently co-Chair of the Yes23 campaign of Australians for Indigenous Constitutional Recognition in the imminent Voice Referendum. 

Producer: Patrick Telfer. Line Producer: Samuel Curkpatrick. Music composed and performed by: Cameron Deyell and Reuben Lewis. Image credit: Celeste de Clario. Director: Aaron Corn. Executive Producer: Marcia Langton. 

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Allegra Spender MP is the sitting Member for Wentworth in the Australian House of Representatives. She was elected to this previously Liberal seat in Sydney in 2022 after campaigning as an Independent on a platform of climate action, political integrity and gender equality. She holds an Economics degree from Cambridge University and a Master of Science from the University of London. She has worked as a business analyst at McKinsey, a policy analyst for UK Treasury, and Managing Director of her family’s fashion label, Carla Zampatti. She has also been Chair of the Sydney Renewable Power Company, and CEO of the Australian Business and Community Network, which partners schools with leading Australian businesses to address educational disadvantage. Since joining Parliament, she has taken a leading role in legislating a target for reducing Australia’s CO2 emissions and establishing the National Anti-Corruption Commission. She presently serves as co-Chair of the Parliamentary Friends of the Uluru Statement from the Heart and convenes the Wentworth for the Voice network of individuals, businesses, community groups and councils. 

Producer: Patrick Telfer.Line Producer: Samuel Curkpatrick. Music composed and performed by: Cameron Deyell and Reuben Lewis. Image credit: Celeste de Clario. Director: Aaron Corn. Executive Producer: Marcia Langton. 

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Glenn Loughrey is a Wiradjuri man and a Reverend in the Anglican Church of Australia. He has served as the Vicar of St Oswald’s, Glen Iris, in Melbourne since 2016. He is also an artist and author, who holds a special interest in Indigenous issues. He was also appointed a Canon and artist-in-residence of St Paul’s Cathedral, Melbourne, in 2021. In that role, he designed a series of three glass panels for the cathedral’s entrance that depict the traditional lands on which it stands. He opened the Murnong Gallery for Aboriginal Art as a social enterprise of St Oswald’s in 2022. He presently serves as the Diocese of Melbourne’s designated advocate for the Voice and constitutional recognition of First Nations people in Australia. He is affiliated as an Associate Professor with the Crawford School of Public Policy at the Australian National University. 

Producer: Patrick Telfer.Line Producer: Samuel Curkpatrick. Music composed and performed by: Cameron Deyell and Reuben Lewis. Image credit: Celeste de Clario. Director: Aaron Corn. Executive Producer: Marcia Langton. 

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Peter Khalil MP is the sitting Labor Member for Wills in the Australian House of Representatives. He is the son of Egyptian migrant parents and grew up in housing commission in Melbourne. He has held the seat of Wills in Melbourne since 2016. He worked the late shift at the local petrol station, as a cleaner and on building sites while studying Law and Arts at the University of Melbourne, and later attained a Master of International Laws from the Australian National University. Before his election, he worked for the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade as National Security Adviser to former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, as the Executive Director of the Special Broadcasting Service (SBS), and as a Victorian Multicultural Commissioner. He is committed to promoted human rights and cultural diversity in Australia and beyond. 

Producer: Patrick Telfer.Line Producer: Samuel Curkpatrick. Music composed and performed by: Cameron Deyell and Reuben Lewis. Image credit: Celeste de Clario. Director: Aaron Corn. Executive Producer: Marcia Langton. 

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Mayatili Marika is a Yolŋu woman of the Rirratjiŋu clan. She is the University of Melbourne’s Cultural Advisor and Partnerships Officer based in Northeast Arnhem Land and Chair of Dhimurru Aboriginal Corporation, which develops and implements culturally and environmentally appropriate resource management strategies around Nhulunbuy. She is an enthusiastic advocate for Yolŋu education.  

In this episode, we discuss the achievements and legacy of the world’s first Yolŋu university Professor, who sadly passed away in September 2023. His family have given permission for the continuing use of his full name for professional purposes. His name was Brian Gumbula and he was a Professorial Fellow in the Indigenous Knowledge Institute at the University of Melbourne. 

Mayatili is a fluent speaker of both English and Yolŋu-matha, so we link you to the Charles Darwin University’s excellent Yolŋu-matha Dictionary here: https://yolngudictionary.cdu.edu.au.  

Producer: Patrick Telfer. Line Producer: Samuel Curkpatrick. Music composed and performed by: Cameron Deyell and Reuben Lewis. Image credit: Celeste de Clario. Director: Aaron Corn. Executive Producer: Marcia Langton.

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