There is no reliable data on the number of people who regret their decision to undergo transgender surgery. James Caspian, a trained psychotherapist who worked for a decade with people who wanted to change their gender decided to find out more but was blocked by Bath Spa University for trying to research a non "politically correct" topic. He's now trying to take his university to court.

Laura Dodsworth is a writer and photographer who documented detransitioners for the Sunday Times through photographs of their bodies and she has written a longer piece on interviews with detransitioners here. Both join David Scullion on the podcast this week.

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