Haley interviews Leah Libresco Sargeant, a writer and speaker whose work covers religion, culture, statistics, and family policy. Leah is a Catholic convert and the author of Building the Benedict Option and Arriving at Amen. She runs a popular substack community Other Feminisms.. In this episode they discuss her new book, The Dignity of Dependence, and exploring how parents should model love and care for the vulnerable among us, embrace the reality of differences that make us more vulnerable without shame, and both receive and give the grace that helps build up the kingdom of God in our world.

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