Messy Family Podcast : Catholic Conversations on Marriage and Family

Messy Family Podcast : Catholic Conversations on Marriage and Family

By Mike and Alicia Hernon : Catholic Marriage Parent and Family

Parenting is not a clean-cut, simple process for those who like to follow the rules. Family life is messy and unpredictable, but it is the greatest adventure you will ever have. We are Mike and Alicia... more

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  1. Number 1: MFP 395: Who Comes First? Navigating the Hard Choices of Family Life

    Family life is full of competing needs, responsibilities, and relationships. And sometimes there isn't one obvious "right" answer. Summary In this listener questions episode, Mike, Alicia, and Katie tackle some of the complicated situations real families are facing: What should a mom do when her teenage son starts turning to Dad instead of her? How do you discern where your family should live? Should you move if your spouse is unhappy but your children are thriving? How do you honor your parents while putting your spouse first? They also discuss life with a large family in a small house, sibling bickering, extracurriculars, protecting family dinners, and caring for aging parents from far away. Through all of these questions runs one important truth: you can't eliminate every tension or make everyone happy. The goal is to discern what God is asking of you, protect the unity of your marriage, and confidently lead the family He has entrusted to you. **In this episode:** Connecting with teenage sons as their relationship with Dad changes * Discerning where God is calling your family to live * Balancing the needs of your spouse and children * "Leaving and cleaving" while still honoring your parents * Making small spaces work for large families * Handling sibling bickering and extracurricular overload * Protecting family time in the middle of sports and activities * Loving and caring for aging parents from a distance For more information on this and other topics visit: https://www.messyfamilyproject.org/

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  2. Number 2: MFP 397: The No-Resentment Rosary

    "The Holy Rosary, by age-old tradition, has shown itself particularly effective as a prayer which brings the family together." —St. John Paul II, Rosarium Virginis Mariae, no. 41 Summary Have you ever gathered the family to pray the Rosary—and wondered if all the fidgeting, correcting, and frustration were helping your children love prayer or simply teaching them to endure it? In this episode, we take an honest look at praying the Rosary with kids. Perseverance matters, but so do creativity, patience, and sensitivity to the needs of your particular family. The goal is not merely to finish five decades or imitate another Catholic household. It is to form children who know that prayer is a place of peace, connection, and love—and who will reach for the Rosary throughout their lives. We explore why this ancient prayer is so powerful: it is scriptural, meditative, intercessory, communal, and contemplative. It is also a "graduated" prayer that can be entered into by a small child, a busy parent, or a contemplative saint. We share practical ideas for making it part of real family life, from praying one decade or taking a walking Rosary to using pictures, Scripture, candles, audio recordings, car rides, and bedtime routines. Your family Rosary does not have to look perfect to bear fruit. Begin small, make room for children to be children, and create an atmosphere they will remember with affection. Give them more than a completed Rosary—give them a lifelong prayer of their own. Key Takeaways 1. Love is the goal. The deeper purpose is not completing the Rosary but helping children develop a lifelong love of prayer. 2. Discern what serves your family. Your Rosary does not need to look like anyone else's. Consider your children's ages, personalities, and needs. 3. Begin small and get creative. Try one decade, a walking Rosary, sacred images, Scripture, car rides, or bedtime prayer. 4. Create an atmosphere of peace. Children may forget what you said, but they will remember how family prayer felt. 5. Lead through witness. Praying as a couple and allowing your children to see that you treasure the Rosary can be powerful formation. Couple discussion questions 1. Is the way we currently pray helping our children love prayer—or merely teaching them to endure it? 2. What practical change could make our family Rosary more peaceful, engaging, and appropriate for our children's current ages? 3. How can we strengthen our own prayer life as a couple so our children encounter the Rosary as something we genuinely love? Resources Link to lead like a dad waitlist Messy Family Rosary App Apple Android

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  3. Number 3: MFP 391: Jesus Take the Wheel! Being Overwhelmed

    Summary This re-release of a 2016 episode focuses on the experience of feeling overwhelmed as a parent and reframes it as a sign that your current responsibilities have exceeded your capacity, not a personal failure. It encourages parents to step back, prioritize their primary vocation of loving their spouse and children, and let go of unrealistic expectations that create unnecessary pressure. By simplifying schedules, reducing commitments, and taking small, manageable steps, families can regain a sense of peace and control. In this conversation, Mike and Alicia also show the importance of surrendering stress to God through prayer, trusting that faith and intentional living can bring clarity and calm even in the midst of chaos. Key Takeaways Realize that this too will pass. Most of the time our children are going through phases and end. Prioritize what's really important and the rest will fall into place. We need to learn to focus. Look at the standards you're setting for yourself and recognize they may not be realistic. Give yourself grace. Rest in the fact that God will always provide a way out for you. He will never give you more than you can handle with His grace. Couple Discussion Questions Do you feel supported by me in stressful moments? Where might we need to adJUST the bar or give each other more grace? What do we believe our top priorities are as a family right now? Resources Family board meeting guide https://messyfamilyproject.org/guide/family-board-meeting-guide/

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  4. Number 4: MFP 372: Prayer for Beginners - Interview with the Science of Sainthood

    "Without a life of prayer, you are really not living as a Catholic" - Matt Leonard Summary What does it really mean to "go deeper" in prayer? And what if you pray every day but don't feel anything? This week we're joined by Matthew Leonard, founder of The Science of Sainthood, to talk about what real spiritual growth looks like. We break down the three modes of prayer, vocal, meditation, and contemplation, and how they form a path to holiness. Matthew shares practical steps for building a daily habit of mental prayer, handling distractions, and creating space for silence. We also talk about how married couples can grow spiritually together without pressure or guilt. If you've ever wondered whether you're making progress in your prayer life, this conversation will give you clarity, encouragement, and a clear next step. Key Takeaways Prayer is essential, not optional. Without prayer, we're not really living the fullness of Catholic life. A relationship with the Lord isn't an add-on. It's fundamental. There's a path to deeper prayer. Vocal prayer, meditation, and contemplation build on each other. Vocal prayer engages body and soul. Meditation is daily mental prayer and real conversation with God. Contemplation is a gift from God that we prepare for through faithfulness. "Feeling nothing" doesn't mean nothing is happening. Distractions are normal. Lack of emotion isn't failure. Stay faithful, show up, and trust that God is at work beneath the surface. Consistency creates growth. Commit to a time and place. Embrace silence. Use Scripture or spiritual reading to focus. Act on inspirations. Over time, deeper prayer opens you to greater grace. Couple Discussion Questions How can we support each other as we grow in our prayer life? What does our personal prayer life actually look like right now, and where do we each feel invited to go deeper? Resources https://www.scienceofsainthood.com/

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  5. Number 5: MFP 257: How to Change Your Heart - Lessons from the Sacred Heart of Jesus

    "Behold the Heart which has so loved men that it has spared nothing, even to exhausting and consuming Itself, in order to testify Its love" - Jesus to St. Margaret Mary How can we love like Jesus? What is His love like? Answering these questions is the role of devotions in the Catholic world. They help us learn more about God and how He relates to us. The Sacred Heart of Jesus teaches us to love as God loves and this is a lesson that all families need to embrace fully. In this podcast, we interview Emily Jaminet of the Sacred Heart Enthronement network and author of the new book Holy Habits of the Sacred Heart. Our conversation explains how both of our families have been impacted by this devotion and how it has given us a way to proclaim Christ as King, and also to have a place to go as a safe refuge in times of trial. As we pray to the Heart of Jesus, He can change our hearts to make us more like Himself! When we learn about how He loves, we can imitate that love which is a path of holiness itself. Learn more about this devotion, what the Nine First Fridays are, how Jesus blesses families with the 12 Promises of the Sacred Heart and why the Enthronement is a means of evangelization and transformation. Key Takeaways: This devotion gives "spiritual stability", focus, and a way to understand the love of Jesus in a concrete, defined way. It prevents us from making Jesus into our own image, but instead reveals to us how He truly loves. Jesus wants a relationship of love with each one of us and He wants to transform our hearts to be like His. A great way to reconcile with children or those with whom we have conflict is to say, "I am allowing Jesus to change my heart". Forgiveness means that we are coming up against "cancel culture" which says that once someone does something wrong they are cut out of one's life. By following the Heart of Jesus we learn practice forgiveness in our home and communities. The devotion of Nine First Fridays and the Enthronement of the Sacred Heart in the home give families concrete ways to understand and come closer to the Heart of Jesus. Couple Discussion: How can we increase our devotion to the Sacred Heart? Emily mentioned that giving up control and trusting in Jesus is a first step to being docile to Jesus. What does that mean to us? How can we practice forgiveness in our home? Is there anyone in our lives that we need to forgive? Reference Links: https://welcomehisheart.com/ https://www.emilyjaminet.com

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