When Jesus told us to go make disciples to all nationalities, some people decided to live it out by getting up and going! Dr. Josip "Joe" Debeljuh joins us to talk about being a disciple who happens to have Missionary as his day job. Joe understands the dilemma facing the Church in discipling, and he and his wife Kelly are doing something about that. 

00:00 - 03:40 Chapter 1: Meet Joe
03:41 - 06:39 Chapter 2: Is the dilemma in discipling just U.S.? Or is it Global?
06:40 - 09:34 Chapter 3: "Identity" and Discipleship
09:35 - 14:43 Chapter 4: Making Disciples. How do you do that?
14:44 - 19:30 Chapter 5: "Hit Rates" in Discipling?
19:31 - 23:26 Chapter 6: How Joe was discipled
23:27 - 30:50 Chapter 7: Being a Disciple & Missionary
30:51 - 32:52 Chapter 8: How to reach Joe

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NBA and NFL Sports Chaplain Dr. John Tolson joins us to talk about the core of it all: Making Disciples Who Make Disciples.

Dr. Tolson is the Founder of The Tolson Group, the Author of "The 4 Priorities" a former Pastor, a Husband, Father/Grandfather and an Alumnus of L'Abrie under Dr. Francis Schaeffer. 

(Note from Dennis: "If I could drive two hours and get to this guy I would hang out at his feet and listen!") 

Bring a notepad to this podcast - this one is truly wonderful!
00:00 - 03:57 Chapter 1:  Opening/Introduction
03:58 - 06:09 Chapter 2:  Mass Produced Disciples (Not)
06:10 - 07:39 Chapter 3:  The 4 Priorities
07:40 - 09:56 Chapter 4:  You Need a Wingman!
09:57 - 13:30 Chapter 5:  How Many Pastors Get Discipled?
13:31 - 16:30 Chapter 6:  Should Pastors Risk Transparency in Their Church?
16:31 - 19:02 Chapter 7:  Why So Many Ex-vangelicals?
19:03 - 22:43 Chapter 8:  Discipleship - Starts With Leadership
22:44 - 24:55 Chapter 9:  Is This Discipleship - or Evangelism?
24:56 - 26:34 Chapter 10: What We Dump Onto Pastors
26:35 - 30:30 Chapter 11: Chruch Hopping / Shopping
30:31 - 33:28 Chapter 12: How To Start Discipling
33:29 - 37:32 Chapter 13: I've Never Been Discipled (And I'm The Pastor)
37:33 - 40:20 Chapter 14: Culturally Toxic to Discipleship
40:21 - 42:43 Chapter 15: Contact Dr. Tolson

#discipleship #evangelism #christianpodcast #christianleadership

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The Founder of XP Gathering Network, Kevin Bugingo joins Raymond and Dennis to talk about the personal, strategic and discipling challenges facing Executive Pastors specifically, and Pastors in general. Kevin is also an Executive Pastor at Discovery Church in Moreno Valley, CA - and a business executive and husband, parent and podcaster!

00:00 - 02:29 Chapter 1: Introduction
02:30 - 13:30 Chapter 2: Life as an "XP" (Executive Pastor)
13:31 - 16:40 Chapter 3: XP's and Church Community
16:41 - 23:03 Chapter 4: Racism and Disciples - How Are We Doing?
23:04 - 27:29 Chapter 5: Key Strategic Challenges for Churches
27:30 - 30:34 Chapter 6: Techno-Disciples?
30:35 - 34:01 Chapter 7: Humanness & Disciples
34:02 - 38:42 Chapter 8: Metrics in Discipleship?
38:43 - 42:40 Chapter 9: Kevin gets the last word
42:41 - 44:13 Conclusion


#discipleship  #christianleadership  #executivepastor  @XPGatheringNetwork 

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Pastor Thomas Ryden, with Apostles Anglican Church joins Dennis and Raymond to talk about discipleship, millennials and the lives of pastors today: 
00:00-02:28 Chapter 1: Introduction (And Star Wars)
02:29-04:16 Chapter 2: Discipled in high school and college
04:17-05:25 Chapter 3: College friends now ex-vangelicals
05:26-09:09 Chapter 4: Seminary graduates leaving their pastoral roles
09:10-13:51 Chapter 5: Disciples - doing life together
13:52-15:44 Chapter 6: Discipleship at Apostles Anglican
15:45-22:10 Chapter 7: Liturgical sacraments and disciples
22:11-23:25 Chapter 8: Contacting Thomas & Conclusion 


#pastorlife #discipleship #millennials

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The Founder of XP Gathering, Kevin Bugingo joins Raymond and Dennis to talk about the personal, strategic and discipling challenges facing Executive Pastors specifically, and Pastors in general. Kevin is also an Executive Pastor at Discovery Church in Moreno Valley, CA - and a business executive and husband, parent and podcaster!

00:00 - 02:29 Chapter 1: Introduction
02:30 - 13:30 Chapter 2: Life as an "XP" (Executive Pastor)
13:31 - 16:40 Chapter 3: XP's and Church Community
16:41 - 23:03 Chapter 4: Racism and Disciples - How Are We Doing?
23:04 - 27:29 Chapter 5: Key Strategic Challenges for Churches
27:30 - 30:34 Chapter 6: Techno-Disciples?
30:35 - 34:01 Chapter 7: Humanness & Disciples
34:02 - 38:42 Chapter 8: Metrics in Discipleship?
38:43 - 42:40 Chapter 9: Kevin gets the last word
42:41 - 44:13 Conclusion


#discipleship #christianleadership #executivepastor

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Dr. Dave Benson, of the London Institute for Contemporary Christianity returns for Part 2 of "Whole Life Discipleship". Dave, along with co-host Carmen LaBerge join Dennis to talk about discipling leadership's roles, the state of discipleship in the West, and how to change the "game" of disciple-making. 
00:00 - 01:18 Chapter 1: Introduction
01:19 - 06:46 Chapter 2: Leadership's role in discipling
06:47 - 09:03 Chapter 3: Is discipleship in the West OK?
09:04 - 10:49 Chapter 4: Two Clergy & A Capitalist Walk Into a Podcast
10:50 - 17:47 Chapter 5: Dave Benson interviews Carmen and Dennis
17:48 - 19:20 Chapter 6: Changing the discipleship "game"
19:21 - 21:03 Chapter 7: Contact Dave Benson
21:04 - 23:17 Chapter 8: Conclusion

#Leadership #Discipleship #Apologetics #Evangelism

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If you're looking for a couch potato session - RUN from this episode! David Bahnsen, a regular on  CNBC and Fox Financial, as well as the Founder and Managing Director of The Bahnsen Group brings his new book "Full Time: Work and the Meaning of Life" to The Disciple Dilemma. Do we really understand how God intended disciples to work?

00:00 - 01.35 Chapter 1 Introduction
01:36 - 02:49 Chapter 2 The Book: Full Time
02:50 - 08:43 Chapter 3 Foreign Concept: Biblical Work
08:44 - 12:06 Chapter 4 Christian Identity: Work
12:07 - 19:19 Chapter 5 Theology - Justice - Poverty. Did you forget?
19:20 - 22:10 Chapter 6 Work, From the Pulpit. Getting it Wrong?
22:11 - 26:23 Chapter 7 "Male-Pale-Straight-Stale"
26:24 - 29:52 Chapter 8 Conclusion

#discipleship #workandfaith #wealth #justice

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Jim Putman on The Disciple Dilemma:
Much of western discipleship has migrated into learning facts, doing activities, and checking off membership in a church. 

Is that all there is to discipleship?  

Is it possible we have our priorities backward from the way we do church, to the way we train our pastors and seminaries? 

Who might be qualified to talk to those kinds of questions? 

If you wanted the ideal resume to talk about what it means to be a disciple, a disciple maker, a pastor, author of over a dozen books - a dozen books! and somebody who is recognized around the world as a disciple maker personally? 

Well, you'd be describing Jim Putman.  Along with all that, Jim Putman is a trophied wrestler, a wrestling coach, a husband, parent, and the founding pastor of Real Life Ministries in Post Falls, ID.

This episode with Jim Putman is offered humbly to pastors and leaders in churches everywhere. But we've got to warn you we aren't pulling any punches on this episode! 

Chapter 1 - Introductions                                                  00:00 - 03:00
Chapter 2 - The book "Relationshift"                          03:00 - 04:17
Chapter 3 - The Mission of every church                  04:18 - 06:24
Chapter 4 - What seminaries often miss                   06:25 - 07:25
Chapter 5 - What's the "30 second fix for this?"  07:26 - 10:10
Chapter 6 - You first! Leaders have to disciple      10:11 - 11:30
Chapter 7 - Pastors rarely get this gift                        11:31 - 13:06
Chapter 8 - Conclusion                                                         13:07 - 13:36

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Is the Academy first and foremost fact infusion? Or is it the development of the whole-life of a person? Join the Provost of Samford University, Dr. Mike Hardin as he, Dennis & Carmen LaBerge probe the most foundational of questions in Christian Higher Education:

INTRODUCTION: Dennis introduces Dr. Mike Hardin 
CHAPTER 1: See Dennis forget to tape the show! (Thanks for the assist Carmen)
CHAPTER 2: "By All Means Possible" - A look ahead, challenges in Christian Education
CHAPTER 3: Dennis gets to talk business strategy...and capitalism...
CHAPTER 4: How should we discern Christian schools that "Get-It" versus the "Nots"?
CHAPTER 5: The Mission of Christian Higher Education
CHAPTER 6: Culture change for academics and Academies
CONCLUSION

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XP Gatherings - the Executive Pastor Gathering Network, in Los Angeles hosts Dennis on a virtual coffee break to talk about the challenges of Western Christianity, and how Pastors are the key....but NOT the sole "doer" for reforming discipleship:
- What the symptoms are
- Is NOT the cause
- What now?

#discipleship #executivepastor #leadership

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