In this conversation, Todd and Art discuss their experiences at a pet expo and the lack of behavior-focused products. They also talk about the importance of recognizing and changing patterns in dog training. Todd shares a story about a dog's unexplained behavior and the concept of dogs saying goodbye. They discuss the use of tools like micro-prongs and the avoidance of choke chains.

The conversation concludes with a discussion on how to explain patterns to clients and the importance of connecting with both dogs and humans. This conversation explores the concept of patterns in dog training and behavior. Todd and Art discuss the importance of recognizing patterns and how they can be used to change behavior. They emphasize the need for owners to observe their own patterns and understand how they contribute to their dog's behavior.

The conversation also touches on the challenges of breaking bad habits and creating new patterns. Overall, the discussion highlights the significance of physical guidance and repetition in training dogs and the vulnerability of humans to conditioning and programming.

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