The Donmar Warehouse Podcast

Climate Conversation Five: THE TRIALS and Better Futures

Dawn King (writer of The Trials) talks with Anjali Raman-Middleton and Tolmeia Gregory about youth activism and the inspiration it gives us all to take responsibility for a brighter future.

Recorded during the run of The Trials on 16 August 2022.

Dawn King is an award-winning writer working in theatre, film, TV, VR and radio. Her play THE TRIALS was a finalist for the Susan Smith Blackburn Prize 2021. ADDICTIVE BEAT, a play for Boundless Theatre, UK, will be performed in a converted church in Southwark Park in September 2022. Her radical reinterpretation of THE CHERRY ORCHARD with director Katie Mitchell opens at the Deutsches Schauspielhaus Hamburg in November 2022. She is also working on feature film PIG CHILD for Delaval Film and the BFI and adapting her play FOXFINDER for the screen with Elation Pictures and the BFI. Dawn’s previous work for the stage includes; FOXFINDER, BRAVE NEW WORLD, CIPHERS and SALT.

Website: www.dawn-king.com

Anjali Raman-Middleton is an A level student, environmental activist and co-founder of Choked Up, a campaign formed by black and brown young people to highlight the disproportionate impact toxic air pollution has on marginalised communities. Currently looking for gap year internships in environmental policy for September 2022-September 2023.

Article link: https://www.standard.co.uk/optimist/sustainable/climate-campaigners-gen-zero-young-activists-justice-cop26-b962469.html

Socials: @anjali_lrm

Tolmeia Gregory is a climate justice activist and digital artist, formerly known as ‘Tolly Dolly Posh’. Tolmeia launched her collection of animated stickers as a Varified Artist on the GIPHY platform. Alongside her activism, she works as a graphic designer and illustrator, collaborating with brands and clients on a variety of different projects and campaigns. Tolmeia is a resident artist at The Wilson, Cheltenham as part of the We Are Creators programme. She is also the host of the podcast, IDEALISTICALLY.

Website: https://www.tolmeiagregory.com/

Podcast: https://www.tolmeiagregory.com/idealistically-podcast/

Socials: @tolmeia

Zoë Svendsen is an associate artist at the Donmar Warehouse and a director, dramaturg and researcher. As artistic director of METIS Zoe creates research-led interdisciplinary performance projects exploring contemporary political subjects, including Love Letters to a Liveable Future (Season for Change/Cambridge Junction), Factory of the Future (Oslo Architecture Triennale), WE KNOW NOT WHAT WE MAY BE (Barbican Pit), World Factory (New Wolsey Theatre/ Young Vic), 3rd Ring Out - TippingPoint Commission Award. As dramaturg she has worked with Shakespeare’s Globe, Young Vic, the National Theatre and the RSC. Svendsen lectures in Drama and Performance at the University of Cambridge.

Clare Slater is the Head of New Work at the Donmar Warehouse. She also works as a freelance adaptor and dramaturg. She sits on the Creative Council of Shakespeare’s Globe and previously worked as Executive Director of the Gate Theatre in Notting Hill. Prior to that, Clare was the Assistant Literary Manager at the National Theatre, and worked in TV and film development.

Produced by Heather Pasfield with support from Josh Parr and Dadiow Lin for the Donmar Warehouse.

Audio Recording: Ed Borgnis, Simon Hendry, Max Hunter and Keegan Curran.

Audio Edit and Mix: Ed Borgnis

Reading list:

Tolmeia Gregory's podcast - https://www.tolmeiagregory.com/idealistically-podcast/

Anjali's CHOKED UP campaign - https://twitter.com/ChokedUp_UK?s=20&t=xBkgwCYQCkscv_65RN7ifQ

Ayana Elizabeth Johnson and Katharine K Wilkinson's book, ALL WE CAN SAVE - https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/9780593237083?gC=5a105e8b&gclid=Cj0KCQjw9ZGYBhCEARIsAEUXITVZEE7FL97MeErCMJVBAbEPd2MKo-2nI1w91nT6_slWo9aKXhTULm8aAuQWEALw_wcB

A DOLL’S HOUSE, PART TWO: The Place of Complexity in the Climate Crisis

Climate Conversation Four: DOLL’S HOUSE, PART 2 and The Place of Complexity

James Macdonald (Director of Doll’s House, Part 2) talks with Simmone Ahiaku and Farhana Yamin about living in a world of increased polarisation. What place does complexity have? Is it possible to hold more than one viewpoint at a time? And how does this relate to the ever-evolving climate crisis?

Recorded during the run of Doll’s House, Part 2 on 13 July 2022.

James Macdonald James was associate and deputy director of the Royal Court from 1992 – 2006. More recently he has worked for the National Theatre, the Donmar, the Almeida, Hampstead Theatre, the Royal Court and in the West End – directing work by Lucas Hnath, Caryl Churchill, Lucy Kirkwood, Annie Baker, Mike Bartlett, Cordelia Lynn, Rory Mullarkey, William Congreve, Edward Albee, Tennessee Williams, Anne Carson and

Euripedes. In New York he has worked for the Public Theater, the Lincoln Center, the Atlantic, NYTW - and on Broadway for MTC and Roundabout. He also directed the film version of A NUMBER for HBO/BBC.

https://www.casarotto.co.uk/clients/james-macdonald

Farhana Yamin is an internationally recognised environmental lawyer, climate change and development policy expert. She has advised leaders and ministers on climate negotiations for 30 years, representing small islands and developing countries and attending nearly every major climate summit since 1991. In addition to founding Track 0, she is a senior advisor to SYSTEMIQ and an FRSA. She was voted number two on the 2020 BBC’s Power List with the judges describing her as a ‘powerhouse of climate justice’ and is active in numerous community-based social initiatives in Camden.

https://www.chathamhouse.org/about-us/our-people/farhana-yamin

https://unfccc.int/climate-action/momentum-for-change/advisory-panel/farhana-yamin

@farhanaclimate

Simmone Ahiaku is a campaigner, geographer, writer and educator who has contributed to environmental, social and cultural work in Bristol, London and across the UK. Simmone has worked on air pollution, divestment and climate justice campaigns. She currently uses facilitated workshops to explore climate colonialism, and examples of climate resistance and movements from the past and present day.

https://linktr.ee/simmoneahiaku

https://shado-mag.com/author/simmone-ahiaku/

instagram: https://www.instagram.com/simmoneahiaku/?hl=en

Produced by Heather Pasfield for the Donmar Warehouse

Co-ordinators: Dadiow Lin, Josh Parr

Audio Recording: Ed Borgnis, Simon Hendry and Max Hunter

Audio Edit and Mix: Ed Borgnis

MARYS SEACOLE: Legacies of Inequality and the Climate Crisis

Nadia Latif (director of Marys Seacole) talks with Courttia Newland and Indra Adnan about acts of care. They discuss how the play dissects intergenerational legacies of inequality and colonialism, and how this speaks to the climate crisis. What kind of story-structures are needed now to take better care of each other and create a new world?

Recorded during the run of Marys Seacole on 23 May 2022.

Nadia Latif is a theatre maker and film director. She trained as a director at RADA under Bill Gaskill. She has worked for buildings & companies including the Almeida, Royal Shakespeare Company, National, Bush, Theatre503 and Arcola. She is currently developing a number of film and television projects. She was Associate Director of the Young Vic theatre from 2018 to 2020. In 2019 she was a Screen International Star of Tomorrow. In 2020 she was a fellow of the Sundance Screenwriters Lab.

https://www.independenttalent.com/directors/nadia-latif/

@HerrDirector

Courttia Newland has published nine works of fiction, including his debut, The Scholar. His latest collection of speculative fiction stories, Cosmogramma, was published in 2021by Canongate (UK) and Akashic Books (US). He has been awarded the Tayner Barbers Award for science fiction writing and the Roland Rees Bursary for playwriting. As a screenwriter he has co-written two feature length films for the Steve McQueen BBC series Small Axe, of which Lovers Rock was jury selected for Cannes, and opened New York Film Fest 2020.Small Axe won the LA Critics Circle award 2020 for Best Picture.

https://literature.britishcouncil.org/writer/courttia-newland

https://courttianewland.com/

@courttianewland

Indra Adnan is Founder and Co-initator of The Alternative Global, a socio-political platform serving systemic transformation. AltGlobal publishes a Daily Alternative news blog, develops cosmolocal agency networks (CANs) and connects planetary regeneration projects. Indra is concurrently a socio-psychotherapist, writer and consultant on soft power. Clients have included the Danish and Brazilian governments, World Economic Forum and NATO. Her book The Politics of Waking Up: Power and Possibility in the Fractal Age was a Times Literary Supplement Book of the Year in 2021.

https://indraadnan.global/

@indraadnan

Produced by Josh Parr, Dadiow Lin and Heather Pasfield for the Donmar Warehouse

Audio Recording: Ed Borgnis, Simon Hendry and Max Hunter

Audio Edit and Mix: Ed Borgnis

Additional Links

- The Alternative Global www.thealternative.org.uk

- The Human Givens Institute https://www.hgi.org.uk

- The work of Minna Salami https://msafropolitan.com/

HENRY V: Colonialism and the Climate Crisis

Max Webster (director of Henry V) talks with Professor Farah Karim-Cooper and Indra Adnan about the relationship between colonialism and the climate crisis. They discuss the influence of Shakespeare on the construction of English identity, and how this was later deployed to justify Britain’s colonial project. They also reflect on human development, ‘growing up’, and recognising our past mistakes.

Recorded during the run of Henry V on 2 March 2022.

Max Webster is an award-winning theatre director, specialising in new work, opera and live music events. Max has directed major productions in London at The Old Vic, The Globe Theatre and English National Opera, as well as across Europe, North America and Asia. He is currently an Associate Director of the Donmar Warehouse.

Website: https://maxwebsterdirector.co.uk/

Farah Karim-Cooper is Co-Director of Education at Shakespeare's Globe and Professor of Shakespeare Studies at King's College London. She curates the Shakespeare and Race Festival and Anti-racist Shakespeare Webinars at the Globe and is the author of several publications on Shakespeare, theatre and race. Her forthcoming book is called The Great White Bard: How to Talk about Shakespeare and Race with One World and Viking Books (2023).

Website: https://www.shakespearesglobe.com/bio/dr-farah-karim-cooper/

Indra Adnan is Founder and Co-initator of The Alternative Global, a socio-political platform serving systemic transformation. AltGlobal publishes a Daily Alternative news blog, develops cosmolocal agency networks (CANs) and connects planetary regeneration projects. Indra is concurrently a socio-psychotherapist, writer and consultant on soft power. Clients have included the Danish and Brazilian governments, World Economic Forum and NATO. Her book The Politics of Waking Up: Power and Possibility in the Fractal Age was a Times Literary Supplement Book of the Year in 2021.

Website: https://indraadnan.global/

Twitter: @indraadnan

Produced by Josh Parr, Dadiow Lin and Heather Pasfield for the Donmar Warehouse

Audio Recording: Ed Borgnis, Simon Hendry, Max Hunter

Audio Edit and Mix: Ed Borgnis

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Mentioned resources:

- The Cambridge Companion to Shakespeare and Race, ed. Ayanna Thompson

- Keep an eye out for The Great White Bard: Shakespeare, Race and the Future of His Legacy, by Farah Karim-Cooper - out from One World, May 2023

- Shakespeare's Globe podcasts: on Shakespeare and Race

- Anti-racist Shakespeare Webinar Series, sponsored by Cambridge University Press, Shakespeare's Globe

Additional Links

The Alternative Global: www.thealternative.org.uk

The Human Givens Institute: https://www.hgi.org.uk

The work of Minna Salami: https://msafropolitan.com/

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Further reading (Suggested by Zoë Svendsen)

Naomi Klein, On Fire: The (Burning) Case for a Green New Deal (2019)

Kate Raworth, Doughnut Economics: Seven Ways to Think Like a 21 st -century

Economist (2017)

Kate Fletcher, Earth Logic (2019) Website: https://earthlogic.info/

Amitav Ghosh, The Great Derangement: Climate Change and the Unthinkable (2017)

Amitav Ghosh, The Nutmeg’s Curse: Parables for a Planet in Crisis (2021)

Cara Daggett, ‘Petromasculinity: Fossil Fuels and Authoritarian Desire’ in Millenium:

Journal of International Studies (2018)

Website: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0305829818775817

Indra Adnan, The Politics of Waking Up: Power and Possibility in the Fractal Age

(2021)

George Monbiot, Out of the Wreckage: a New Politics for an Age of Crisis (2017)

Rob Nixon, Slow Violence and the Environmentalism of the Poor (2011)

FORCE MAJEURE: Climate Negotiations and Family Drama

Michael Longhurst (director of Force Majeure and Artistic Director of the Donmar Warehouse) talks with the renowned international climate lawyer Farhana Yamin, who draws on 20 years at the frontline of global climate negotiations to relate the themes of the play to the climate crisis.

Recorded on the set of Force Majeure, 24 January 2022.

Michael Longhurst is the Artistic Director of the Donmar Warehouse, where he will direct The Band’s Visit this autumn. Previously he has directed work at the National Theatre, Royal Court Theatre, Almeida Theatre, Shakespeare’s Globe, Hampstead Theatre, Kiln, Young Vic and in the West End and on Broadway. His multi-cast production of Constellations won the 2022 Olivier Award for Best Revival of a Play, and Caroline, or Change, which he directed in London and on Broadway, was nominated for the Tony Award for Best Musical Revival.

Farhana Yamin is an internationally recognised environmental lawyer, climate change and development policy expert. She has advised leaders and ministers on climate negotiations for 30 years, representing small islands and developing countries and attending nearly every major climate summit since 1991.

In addition to founding Track 0, she is a senior advisor to SYSTEMIQ and an FRSA. She was voted number two on the 2020 BBC’s Power List with the judges describing her as a ‘powerhouse of climate justice’ and is active in numerous community-based social initiatives in Camden.

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Read more

https://www.chathamhouse.org/about-us/our-people/farhana-yamin

https://unfccc.int/climate-action/momentum-for-change/advisory-panel/farhana-yamin

Twitter: @farhanaclimate

Produced by Josh Parr, Dadiow Lin and Heather Pasfield for the Donmar Warehouse

Audio Recording: Ed Borgnis, Simon Hendry, Max Hunter

Audio Edit and Mix: Ed Borgnis

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Further reading (Suggested by Zoë Svendsen)

Naomi Klein, On Fire: The (Burning) Case for a Green New Deal (2019)

Kate Raworth, Doughnut Economics: Seven Ways to Think Like a 21 st -century

Economist (2017)

Kate Fletcher, Earth Logic (2019) Website: https://earthlogic.info/

Amitav Ghosh, The Great Derangement: Climate Change and the Unthinkable (2017)

Amitav Ghosh, The Nutmeg’s Curse: Parables for a Planet in Crisis (2021)

Cara Daggett, ‘Petromasculinity: Fossil Fuels and Authoritarian Desire’ in Millenium:

Journal of International Studies (2018)

Website: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0305829818775817

Indra Adnan, The Politics of Waking Up: Power and Possibility in the Fractal Age

(2021)

George Monbiot, Out of the Wreckage: a New Politics for an Age of Crisis (2017)

Rob Nixon, Slow Violence and the Environmentalism of the Poor (2011)

Climate Conversations is a new podcast series, bringing together Donmar directors and leading climate and social justice thinkers. We want to better understand what it means to make theatre in the context of the climate crisis. How can the stories we tell, and the ways we tell them, contribute to a positive future?

This podcast series was recorded during an 18-month research project the Donmar is currently undertaking (2021-2023). Bringing together our artists and staff, facilitated by Zoë, this research is exploring new ways of working and thinking in order to create the conditions for more climate-careful theatre-making.

Curated by Donmar Artistic Associate and Climate Dramaturg, Zoë Svendsen.

Hosted by Clare Slater, Head of New Work, Donmar Warehouse.

Produced by Josh Parr, Dadiow Lin and Heather Pasfield for the Donmar Warehouse

Audio Recording: Ed Borgnis, Simon Hendry, Max Hunter

Audio Edit and Mix: Ed Borgnis

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Further reading (Suggested by Zoë Svendsen)

Naomi Klein, On Fire: The (Burning) Case for a Green New Deal (2019)

Kate Raworth, Doughnut Economics: Seven Ways to Think Like a 21 st -century

Economist (2017)

Kate Fletcher, Earth Logic (2019) Website: https://earthlogic.info/

Amitav Ghosh, The Great Derangement: Climate Change and the Unthinkable (2017)

Amitav Ghosh, The Nutmeg’s Curse: Parables for a Planet in Crisis (2021)

Cara Daggett, ‘Petromasculinity: Fossil Fuels and Authoritarian Desire’ in Millenium:

Journal of International Studies (2018)

Website: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0305829818775817

Indra Adnan, The Politics of Waking Up: Power and Possibility in the Fractal Age

(2021)

George Monbiot, Out of the Wreckage: a New Politics for an Age of Crisis (2017)

Rob Nixon, Slow Violence and the Environmentalism of the Poor (2011)

ALONE is a digital tour of St.Thomas More School featuring stories from students from Year 10. Inside the piece we dive into what life beyond school has been like locked behind their own doors, and how recovery looks for the students as they return.

Click here to find out how the students at St Thomas More made this exciting piece in a short audio introduction.

THE TIME WHEN TIME STOPPED is an audio piece from a group of artists in Year 10, that aims to capture their thoughts, feelings, fears and aspirations, having survived the unexampled upheavals of 2020-2021. Devised over 8 weeks via instant messaging, then recorded in class once schools reopened, we hope it will serve as an aural time capsule, and stand as a testament to the resilience and artistry of generation lockdown.

PLANET OF THE UNKNOWN is a science fiction audio piece that asks the question: if we had to leave Earth behind and go somewhere new, what would we miss, and what would we leave behind? We wanted to address the big issues raised by the pandemic, but approach them from an unfamiliar angle. For anyone who's started looking differently at life, the universe, and everything.

Global poverty and child poverty is an issue which this group of young people feel extremely passionate about. We discussed how we take certain things in our life for granted. We have clean water, a roof over our head and food on the table. This group wanted to make a piece about individual and collective responsibility when it comes to poverty.