On The Babylon Bee Interview Show, Kyle and Ethan talk to Dr. Owen Strachan about defining wokeness, never escaping your oppression, and the deeper meaning behind the movie, 1917. Owen Strachan is the Provost and Research Professor of Theology at Grace Bible Theological Seminary. He received his Ph.D from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. Dr. Owen has written several books, including his latest book, Christianity and Wokeness, where he speaks on the new philosophy that is infecting churches with Marxist ideology.

Kyle and Ethan dig in deep with Dr. Owen about defining wokeness and how it has been affecting churches. Dr. Owen describes how the wokeness ideology keeps people from ever leaving their oppression. He goes onto describing how white people are being told that they can never escape themselves being oppressors. Kyle and Ethan find out more about the complex issues that are fueling wokeness.

In the subscriber portion, Kyle and Ethan find out more about Dr. Owen's views on the movie, 1917 and how the director, Sam Mendes is up to something deeper than mere movie gimmicks. Kyle and Ethan continue their streak of flawless segues by moving the conversation into why Dr. Owen has problems with Thomas Aquinas. Kyle and Ethan fulfill their promise and find out from Dr. Owen on how to stop wokeness in your church. They finish the interview with the ever amazing 10 questions.