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In this special live episode of The Dreaming Collective Podcast, recorded at the Sunshine Coast Council Flag Raising Ceremony for NAIDOC 2025, host Carly Forrest sits down – spontaneously and unscripted – with a group of deadly young voices who embody this year’s theme: “The Next Generation: Strength, Vision & Legacy.”

Hear from Halea Eggmolesse, Alexis Boyd, Marley Fitzpatrick, Layla Havana, and Amelia Hughes as they reflect on culture, identity, leadership, and what NAIDOC means to them. These powerful, unfiltered yarns are a reminder of why investing in and listening to our youth is not only a responsibility — it’s a legacy.

This episode is a celebration of the future – bold, bright, and Blak.

Recorded live on  Kabi Kabi Country. Always was, always will be.

We acknowledge Sunshine Coast Council for sponsoring this podcast episode. 

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Milisont Siai Rose Sailor is a proud First Nations Torres Strait Islander woman, descended from the Erubam Le and Meriam Le peoples of Zenadh Kes, with a rich cultural heritage that also includes strong Celtic and Polish roots. A multi-talented artist and freelance model, Milisont has been captivating audiences and clients with her versatility and passion since the age of 13. Her career began with a landmark opportunity, modelling at the 2011 Deadly Awards at the iconic Sydney Opera House.

Beyond modelling, Milisont is a creative force with a love for dancing, singing, playing guitar, writing, and content creation. She brings her unique perspective and vibrant cultural identity into everything she does, blending storytelling with artistry. Milisont continues to celebrate her heritage and inspire others to embrace their own identity with pride and authenticity.

In this episode, Milisont shares her inspiring journey of reconnecting with her Torres Strait Islander culture. She discussed the challenges of navigating her identity and the taboos around women's business in her community. Millie speaks passionately about her efforts to uncover and revive traditional women's practices, as well as her plans to study her mother tongue to preserve the language. She emphasised the importance of celebrating and empowering women in cultural spaces, and creating resources to bridge traditional knowledge with modern freedom. Throughout the conversation, Millie highlights the need for community healing, ancestral wisdom, and passing on a strong cultural foundation to the next generation. Her authenticity and determination to honour her roots while evolving with the times is truly inspiring.

*Content warning some explicit language and sensitive topics of a mature nature discussed. Listener discretion advised*

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Holly Johnson is a proud Gooreng Gooreng woman, a Mother, Nan and world traveller. Holly commenced her career journey working in Indigenous community-controlled organisations and has since worked across the higher education, not for profit and corporate sectors. Holly has held both state based and national roles across recruitment, diversity and inclusion and Indigenous affairs. Holly has completed a Bachelor of Business (HRM & Marketing) from the University of the Sunshine Coast.

Holly has been instrumental in developing and implementing workplace policies that foster culturally safe and inclusive environments. Her leadership in initiatives such as the development of reconciliation action plans highlights her ability to drive meaningful change. She is passionate about empowering workplaces to better support Indigenous employees and create pathways for engagement, stating that simple steps towards understanding Indigenous culture can lead to a more empathetic and informed workforce.

In this episode, Holly Johnson shares her personal journey, including a pivotal moment in her life when she decided to return to university at age 30, which marked a significant shift in her career. Holly emphasises the importance of recognising the roots of significant cultural milestones such as NAIDOC Week, reminding us that while it is a time for joy and pride, it is also a call to action for ongoing progress. Holly’s dedication to uniting people through education and cultural awareness reflects her vision for a more inclusive and equitable future for all.

Throughout the discussion, Holly's resilience, drive and unwavering Black, loud and proud spirit shine through, serving as an inspiration for listeners.

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Thank you to Shannan Bishop, a proud Gunggari Artist and Graphic Designer, who also has connections to Wakka Wakka and Kabi Kabi, for designing The Dreaming Collective's Podcast Artwork. Shannan's art depicts our host, Carly Forrest's journey of bringing the podcast to life and shows the coming together of freshwater and saltwater ~ red dirt and sand with the sharing of our storylines connecting us all and preserving these yarns for future generations.

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Uncle Gordon Browning is a proud Aboriginal and South Sea Islander saltwater man with deep cultural connections to the Fingal Heads, Coodjinburra clan, part of the Bundjalung Yugembeh Nation. His heritage also ties him to the South Sea Islands, specifically Malatia, Tanna, and Epi Islands, reflecting a rich and diverse cultural identity. 

With over 25 years of experience in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander health across the Sunshine Coast and Gympie regions, Gordon has established himself as a leader in cultural engagement and reconciliation. His work focuses on fostering meaningful relationships, advancing cultural understanding, and ensuring health programs are culturally safe and responsive to community needs.

As a cultural knowledge holder and advocate, Gordon’s dedication extends beyond his professional contributions. He is deeply involved in the Gympie community, sharing his wisdom, supporting families, and inspiring others through his leadership. His passion for community-driven health initiatives and his commitment to reconciliation exemplify his vision for a healthier, more equitable future for First Nations peoples.

Gordon’s role as a father, grandfather, and strong community leader enriches his approach to creating positive change, blending traditional and contemporary knowledge to benefit future generations.

In the episode, Uncle Gordon discusses his life, heritage, and contributions to the community, from leaving school and working on the travelling sideshow rides through to pursuing a career in health care. He emphasises the importance of cultural identity, storytelling, and the NAIDOC theme "Keep the fire burning, black, loud and proud." Gordon highlights the significance of passing down cultural knowledge to the next generation and the resilience needed to overcome challenges. He also discusses the impact of traditional practices and the role of community involvement in preserving cultural heritage.

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Thank you to Shannan Bishop, a proud Gunggari Artist and Graphic Designer, who also has connections to Wakka Wakka and Kabi Kabi, for designing The Dreaming Collective's Podcast Artwork. Shannan's art depicts our host, Carly Forrest's journey of bringing the podcast to life and shows the coming together of freshwater and saltwater ~ red dirt and sand with the sharing of our storylines connecting us all and preserving these yarns for future generations.

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Uncle Paul Constable Calcott is a proud Wiradjuri man, artist, and advocate, residing on Gubbi Gubbi Country. As the founder of Hot Pink Goanna, Uncle Paul uses his art to share powerful stories of his experiences as an Aboriginal gay man living with a disability in urban Australia. His work embodies resilience, pride, and inclusivity, creating spaces for conversations that inspire understanding and connection.

With over 40 years of experience in the disability sector, Uncle Paul has dedicated his career to supporting First Nations communities, focusing on culturally respectful services and resources. In 2010, he founded the NuunaRon Art Group, a ground-breaking initiative that provides support and a platform for First Nations artists living with disabilities to express themselves and celebrate their identities.

Uncle Paul’s advocacy extends to the global stage. In 2017, he represented Indigenous artists with disabilities as a delegate at the United Nations, where he presented a painting symbolising inclusion and human rights. His artwork was prominently displayed on the UN's big screen, amplifying the voices of First Nations people with disabilities and highlighting the importance of cultural identity in international human rights conversations.

A tireless champion for inclusion, Uncle Paul continues to serve on multiple committees and advisory boards, ensuring that the voices of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people with disabilities are heard and respected. Through his art and advocacy, Uncle Paul celebrates diversity, challenges stereotypes, and builds pathways for cultural understanding on a local and global level.

In this episode, Uncle Paul shares pivotal moments from his life, including his experiences growing up as a fair-skinned Aboriginal person, his journey as a member of the LGBTQ+ community, and his lifelong advocacy for disability rights. He discusses the significance of the NAIDOC theme "Keep the fire burning black, loud and proud," and how he embodies this through his work in the arts and on the global stage, such as speaking at the United Nations. The episode also covers Uncle Paul's hopes for the next generation, the challenges and progress made in disability acceptance within the Indigenous community, and a call to action for listeners to support the newly formed "Mob for Mob" peak body. Throughout the conversation, Uncle Paul's resilience, wisdom, and unwavering commitment to uplifting Indigenous voices shine through, making this an inspiring and enlightening listen.

https://www.hotpinkgoanna.com/

https://www.mob4mob.org.au/

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Dan Neill is a proud Kabi Kabi man from the Sunshine Coast region. He has strong connections to his culture and community, with family connections to Cherbourg. As a father and role model, Dan is passionate about passing on his cultural knowledge and pride to the next generation.  Professionally, Dan has excelled and earnt a reputation as a cultural guide and leader throughout all facets of his career by offering invaluable insights, fostering understanding, and empowering others through his deep knowledge and commitment to cultural integrity. 

In this episode, Dan shares pivotal moments from his upbringing that have shaped his identity, including the importance of his parents instilling a strong sense of Aboriginal identity despite living off-country. He reflects on the resilience of his community and the progress being made in acknowledging Aboriginal histories and truths in wider society.

Dan is open about his personal struggles with mental health, emphasising the need for vulnerability and self-care. He advocates for shifting the narrative around the "cultural load" carried by Aboriginal people, reframing it as the "colonial load" imposed by systemic barriers.

With hopes for a future where young Aboriginal people can embrace their culture "black, loud and proud", Dan's story exemplifies the strength, resilience and authenticity of the Aboriginal experience.

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Thank you to Shannan Bishop, a proud Gunggari Artist and Graphic Designer, who also has connections to Wakka Wakka and Kabi Kabi, for designing The Dreaming Collective's Podcast Artwork. Shannan's art depicts our host, Carly Forrest's journey of bringing the podcast to life and shows the coming together of freshwater and saltwater ~ red dirt and sand with the sharing of our storylines connecting us all and preserving these yarns for future generations.

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Chloe Watego is a proud Iman and South Sea Islander woman residing on Kabi Kabi (Gubbi Gubbi) Country, with a passion for sharing and celebrating her culture through art. Born and raised on Yugambeh land, Chloe’s heritage also ties her to the Torres Strait Islands and the Bundjalung nation through her grandmother. Her grandfather’s removal during the Stolen Generations caused a deep disconnection from culture, inspiring Chloe’s journey of healing and reconnection.

A self-taught artist, Chloe began painting while uncovering her family’s roots and searching for her grandfather’s country, tribe, and language. Her artworks shine a light on her family’s enduring connection to the land while paving the way forward for her children and future generations.

With over 14 years of experience in the Disability and Mental Health sectors, Chloe’s professional background reflects her commitment to inclusion, acceptance, and understanding. Today, she combines her passion for storytelling and creativity, listening to individual stories and transforming them into meaningful art that fosters connection and understanding.

As a mother to three children (+ 4 fur children!) and a devoted partner, Chloe draws inspiration from her family and the simple joys of life. Her art is a reflection of resilience, love, and the enduring strength of cultural identity.

In this episode, Chloe shares her journey from a career in disability and mental health to finding solace and identity in art following a pivotal moment in 2021. She discusses the importance of cultural heritage, the impact of diverse communities on her upbringing, and the significance of the NAIDOC theme "Black, Loud and Proud." Chloe emphasizes the importance of self-care, family history, and the support of her community. She also looks forward to future projects, including a residency at Lantana Space and an exhibition in Mitchell, funded by the Sunshine Coast Council. Listeners can connect with her through her website and social media.

https://chloewategoart.com/

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Thank you to Shannan Bishop, a proud Gunggari Artist and Graphic Designer, who also has connections to Wakka Wakka and Kabi Kabi, for designing The Dreaming Collective's Podcast Artwork. Shannan's art depicts our host, Carly Forrest's journey of bringing the podcast to life and shows the coming together of freshwater and saltwater ~ red dirt and sand with the sharing of our storylines connecting us all and preserving these yarns for future generations.

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Cholena Hughes is a proud Koa woman, born on Turrbal Country, raised on Kabi Kabi (Gubbi Gubbi) Country, and now residing on Jinibara Country in the Sunshine Coast hinterland. A passionate visual artist and educator, Cholena’s work is deeply connected to her love for Country, often using materials and symbolism from the natural environment to tell her story and share cultural knowledge.

Cholena discovered her passion for art during high school but initially pursued a career in hospitality. Encouraged by her husband after rediscovering her early portfolio, she returned to her creative roots, undertaking formal studies in visual arts. This journey has led to a diverse art practice and a rewarding career teaching and inspiring others.

With over a decade of experience teaching visual arts, including working within the VET Inside program in correctional centres, Cholena has empowered her students to reconnect with their culture, build confidence, and find belonging through art. She has played a pivotal role in introducing cultural arts qualifications, helping First Nations students explore their identity and creative expression.

Cholena’s art extends beyond teaching; her creations and collaborative projects celebrate the connection between people, culture, and Country. From workshops and exhibitions to tactile designs for the Mary Cairncross Scenic Reserve, she is a prominent figure in the Sunshine Coast’s art community. Through her work, Cholena continues to inspire connection, resilience, and unity, demonstrating how art can bridge stories across generations and cultures.

In this episode, Cholena tells her powerful story of discovering her Aboriginal heritage and the profound impact it has had on her life. Cholena shares pivotal moments, from meeting her husband Peter to the life-changing revelation from her Aunty Minnie. She reflects on navigating her identity as a white-passing Aboriginal woman and her deep commitment to advocating for culture. Cholena also discusses the importance of passing on cultural teachings to the next generation, including her own daughter Amelia. This is a moving and insightful conversation that celebrates the resilience and richness of Aboriginal heritage. Listeners are sure to be inspired by Cholena's journey and her passion for keeping the fire burning.

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Thank you to Shannan Bishop, a proud Gunggari Artist and Graphic Designer, who also has connections to Wakka Wakka and Kabi Kabi, for designing The Dreaming Collective's Podcast Artwork. Shannan's art depicts our host, Carly Forrest's journey of bringing the podcast to life and shows the coming together of freshwater and saltwater ~ red dirt and sand with the sharing of our storylines connecting us all and preserving these yarns for future generations.

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Clea North is a proud Mithaka and Gunggari woman from south-west Queensland, now residing on Gubbi Gubbi Country. Born in Charleville on Bidjara Country, Clea grew up in a remote community where the classroom often felt like a place of exclusion, despite her love of reading and writing. These early experiences of disconnection from education sparked a dream at the age of 15: to become a teacher who could serve as a visible and supportive presence for First Nations students—something she wished she had growing up.

Today, Clea is a devoted mother, wife, and strong advocate for education, driven by her unwavering commitment to empowering First Nations youth to thrive. She believes education is a transformative force, providing young people with pathways out of poverty and into brighter futures. 

Clea’s professional journey began as a teacher’s aide and community education counsellor, roles that ignited her passion for creating inclusive, culturally safe environments. Now a recognised leader in education, she works directly with students, carers, and schools to support young people, especially those excluded from mainstream education due to trauma. Clea is steadfast in ensuring their aspirations remain alive and achievable, centring their voices in conversations about their futures and recognising their unique strengths and potential.

Clea is also a passionate artist who has used art as a form of therapeutic self-care since childhood. Her multifaceted work reflects a deep commitment to fostering equitable futures for First Nations people, particularly women, and promoting cultural identity through education and art.

In this episode of The Dreaming Collective podcast, Clea shares her personal story, including a transformative moment that reshaped her identity as a Black woman navigating a white patriarchal society. She speaks passionately about the importance of amplifying the voices of Black women and mothers and her use of art and advocacy to challenge systemic racism and oppression, particularly in education. Clea highlights the critical need for self-determination, education, and community support for young Indigenous people. Her resilience, creativity, and cultural pride shine through, leaving listeners inspired to continue the fight for equity and keep the fire burning "black, loud, and proud."

Resources and Links Mentioned in the Podcast:

1. Indigenous students face high rates of school disciplinary absences in Queensland
   • An article exploring the challenges Indigenous students face regarding disciplinary absences in Queensland schools.
2. QAI and ATSILS call for inquiry into school disciplinary absences
   • A joint call from QAI and ATSILS advocating for an inquiry into the impact of disciplinary absences on Indigenous students.
3. Kumanjayi Walker Inquest Findings
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Thank you to Shannan Bishop, a proud Gunggari Artist and Graphic Designer, who also has connections to Wakka Wakka and Kabi Kabi, for designing The Dreaming Collective's Podcast Artwork. Shannan's art depicts our host, Carly Forrest's journey of bringing the podcast to life and shows the coming together of freshwater and saltwater ~ red dirt and sand with the sharing of our storylines connecting us all and preserving these yarns for future generations.

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Benjamin Thomson is a proud Wiradjuri man and the visionary founder behind both the Take Pride Movement and First Nation Distributors. Raised on Darug Country in Western Sydney and now residing on Gubbi Gubbi/Kabi Kabi Country on the Sunshine Coast, Benjamin's deep connection to his Indigenous heritage has driven his entrepreneurial journey. His lineage traces back to the Bila Galari (Upper Lachlan Rivers) within Wiradjuri Country in far-west New South Wales, and he proudly carries family names such as Wedge, Coe, Ingram, Glass, and Williams.

From an early age, Benjamin was immersed in his culture, attending an Aboriginal preschool run by his family in Mt Druitt. This experience instilled a strong sense of belonging and pride in his heritage. Witnessing the challenges faced by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities, he dedicated over seven years as a youth worker, striving to improve outcomes for his people. This work sparked his passion for fostering unity and cultural appreciation, ultimately leading him to create the Take Pride Movement—a clothing company dedicated to promoting pride and understanding of Indigenous culture among all Australians.

Driven by a commitment to culture and a desire to create a lasting legacy, Benjamin finds his greatest motivation in his children. His work with the Take Pride Movement and First Nation Distributors is fuelled by a vision for a future where his children can proudly embrace their culture and experience the freedom that economic empowerment brings. By establishing sustainable, culturally grounded businesses, Benjamin aims to provide his family with opportunities and the security to pursue their dreams. His focus on creating economic drivers not only builds generational wealth but also lays a foundation for his children and future generations to thrive with pride and purpose.

In this episode, Ben shares his journey from youth work to entrepreneurship. He discusses his cultural upbringing, including his involvement in dance groups and his transition to graffiti art, which led to founding Take Pride Movement in 2018. Ben also established First Nation Defibs in 2019, pivoting the business to First Nations Distributors and expanding to 52,000 products in 2024. He emphasises the importance of resilience, self-determination, and cultural pride. Ben highlights the need for Indigenous businesses to thrive, aiming for financial independence and cultural revitalisation. He stresses the significance of mentorship, networking, and staying true to one's cultural roots.

Take Pride Movement: A fashion label that creates timeless clothing and apparel representing First Nation Australian culture, symbolising unity and strength for all races to wear with pride.

First Nation Distributors: A Supply Nation Certified business established in 2019, partnering with industry-leading brands to provide quality products and professional services, aligned with their mission statement.

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Thank you to Shannan Bishop, a proud Gunggari Artist and Graphic Designer, who also has connections to Wakka Wakka and Kabi Kabi, for designing The Dreaming Collective's Podcast Artwork. Shannan's art depicts our host, Carly Forrest's journey of bringing the podcast to life and shows the coming together of freshwater and saltwater ~ red dirt and sand with the sharing of our storylines connecting us all and preserving these yarns for future generations.