The Drill Down with Peter Schweizer

Words like “mind control” and “brainwashing” get tossed around, but it is a very real science and a very dangerous game that former CIA operative and now conservative talk show host Buck Sexton calls by its scientific name of “menticide,” the murder of the mind.

Psychological attacks are real, and the concept of menticide dates to a Dutch psychologist who studied how totalitarian governments control the thoughts of their populations. Joost Meerloo witnessed and studied the way Josef Stalin, Vladimir Lenin, and Mao Zedong used the insights from Pavlov’s experiments on dogs against people. His most famous work is called The Rape of the Mind.

Did politics destroy journalism, or was it the other way around? Author and investigative journalist Peter Schweizer, host of The Drill Down, sees the case for both but believes journalism has done more damage to itself than politicians could manage to do to them. Schweizer says, “a friend of mine who used to be a producer on 60 Minutes said he thought that journalists became less interested in actual hard news coverage.” On the latest episode of the Drill Down podcast, his guest Mark Halperin, who had a front row seat to see it happening, agrees.

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In its first week, Peter Schweizer’s new book, The Invisible Coup, is the number one book in the country. A little celebration might be in order, but Schweizer and co-host Eric Eggers relate the book’s blockbuster revelations to what is happening now in Minneapolis. Why is ICE even there in the first place? The Department of Homeland Security said  its largest immigration enforcement operation ever, called “Operation Metro Surge,” was tied in part to allegations of fraud involving Somali residents, which The DrillDown has discussed previously. Massive defrauding of aid programs including daycare, food, housing, and ambulance services was perpetrated largely by Somalis living in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area.

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To respond to “affordability issues,” the Trump administration floated 50-year mortgages for buying homes. Last week, Donald Trump suggested capping credit card interest rates at 10 percent. Financial writer and two-time New York Times bestselling author Carol Roth thinks both are a “terrible idea.” She joins The Drill Down to discuss good financial sense.

The story of welfare fraud in Minnesota keeps getting bigger. And no one in state government has worked harder and longer trying to sound the alarm about it than state Sen. Steve Drazkowski. He joins The Drill Down to discuss the growing evidence of widespread fraud in his state that may include not only welfare and child care fraud but vote fraud as well. Minn. Gov. Tim Walz, who was the Democrats’ vice-presidential nominee in 2024, just abandoned his bid for a third term in the wake of the growing scandal, which exposed potentially billions of dollars in fraud committed mostly by Somalis in the Minneapolis area through fake feeding programs, daycare centers, and other social programs. Reporters have also identified political contributions to many of the state’s most prominent politicians from Somali immigrants who have been implicated and/or prosecuted in the scams.

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