Dennis Vetrano sits down with Lisa Johnson and Chris Barry, co-founders of Been There Got Out, for a candid conversation about toxic relationships, high-conflict divorce, and what healthy love can look like after getting out.
Lisa and Chris share their own experiences from difficult marriages and divorces, including the warning signs they missed, how easy it is to normalize unhealthy behavior, and what it took to rebuild their sense of self.
They also discuss why “marriage is hard” can sometimes keep people stuck, how to recognize red and green flags, what healthy communication and boundaries actually look like, and the impact relationships can have on children.
Lisa and Chris are the authors of Been There, Got Out: Toxic Relationships, High-Conflict Divorce, and How to Stay Sane Under Insane Circumstances and When Your Ex Turns the Kids Against You.
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