Join us for a timely conversation with filmmaker Michael Premo on the escalation of potential for violence and the path forward following Trump's pardons of Jan. 6 Capitol rioters.

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Full Episode Description:  Just hours after he took office, Donald Trump issued pardons for over 1,500 people convicted of crimes related to the storming of the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021. One of those pardoned was one of the subjects of a gripping documentary: Homegrown, from Storyline Media. Alongside two other members of the extremist group, the Proud Boys, filmmaker Michael Premo followed convicted felon, Christopher Quaglin, at home, on the road, and up the steps of the Capitol that day. In this conversation with Flanders, recorded just prior to Trump’s inauguration, Premo describes how the film came to be and what he found, including the surprising diversity within the Right-wing groups he followed. How do political ideas turn to political violence? What is the path forward? Join us for a timely conversation and, as always, Laura’s commentary.

“I think what we're going to see is an escalation of the potential for violence . . . Project 2025 is a great example of the sort of broader consensus among the conservative movement around what to do once they regained power . . . People feel increasingly emboldened in a way that I think is somewhat similar to 2016, but there's a different sense of urgency.” - Michael Premo

Guests:  Michael Premo, Journalist & Filmmaker; Director & Producer, Homegrown

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Music In the Middle:  ‘Call Sender remix’ of “Lost In the Woods” by Project Gemini from their forthcoming Colours & Light courtesy of Mr. Bongo Records and thanks to Nurture Music.  And additional music included- "Steppin"  and "All The Ways" by Podington Bear.

*Note: This interview took place on January 15th, 2025 prior to the inauguration. Since the taping of this interview, Donald Trump issued pardons for over 1,500 individuals convicted of crimes related to the January 6 Capitol storming shortly after taking office.  Christopher Quaglin, a prominently featured subject in the documentary "Homegrown," was pardoned alongside other members of the extremist group, the Proud Boys.

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