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Honesty is not a value to put on the wall. It is a behaviour, a skill and a choice leaders must practise every day. Dom Thurbon is an entrepreneur, researcher, writer and speaker who has spent nearly 20 years helping leaders and organisations change behaviour through disruption. He has built and sold two global businesses, worked as a partner at EY, co-founded Alchemy Labs and written several publications. 

Dom explains why truth is so difficult inside organisations, how silence becomes a form of dishonesty, and why leaders must go first. He reveals how cultures gradually drift away from honest conversations, often without anyone intending it. The result is frustration, disengagement and problems that grow larger because nobody feels safe enough to speak up. 

Dom says that honesty is not simply a value to aspire to but a skill that must be learned and practised. He challenges leaders to stop seeing themselves as passengers in culture and instead recognise their role in creating it, one conversation, one decision and one behaviour at a time. 

Takeaways 

• Truth is not a value; it is a skill leaders practice. 
• Silence often causes more damage than outright dishonesty ever does. 
• People frequently choose acceptance and belonging over difficult honest conversations. 
• Every interaction teaches others what behaviour is acceptable and rewarded. 
• Small problems become major failures when truth is repeatedly ignored. 
• Leaders create honest cultures by demonstrating vulnerability and going first. 
• No news rarely means good news; it often signals fear. 
• Honest organisations are built through behaviours, not values statements alone. 

Follow Dominic Thurbon
https://domthurbon.com/ 

Dominic’s book
To Be Honest: How making truth happen builds better businesses, lives and societies https://amzn.com/1923186434 

Books recommended
The Five Dysfunctions of a Team by Pat Lencioni https://amzn.to/43Sruho
Determined: Life Without Free Will by Robert Sapolsky https://amzn.to/440O87a 

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Made to Thrive: The practical, prescriptive guide on how to be a great CEO 
Onboarded: How to bring new hires to the points where they are more effective faster. A business case for leaders on why you should commit to an effective onboarded process. 
Onboarded for Managers: Helping managers bring new hires to the point where they are more effective faster. 
Bigger isn’t Better, Better is Better: Avoiding the pressure of endless growth to build a better business (and better life) 

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Senior leaders do not get ownership from their leaders simply by setting expectations. According to leadership coach and author Kylie Paatsch, ownership grows when people feel known, trusted, supported and clear about what matters. 

Kylie is a leadership coach and speaker who has spent more than 30 years leading at every level and more than 20 years coaching and facilitating senior leaders from mid-level through to C-suite. 

Kylie explains why leading leaders requires a shift from doing to enabling, why transactional meetings flatten energy, and how unclear expectations are often mistaken for people problems. She shares her Know, Show, Grow model for building trust, loyalty, responsibility and initiative in leadership teams. 

Takeaways 

• Leading leaders requires influence, not simply managing people and tasks. 
• Transactional meetings destroy connection, energy, ownership and meaningful team engagement. 
• Clear expectations prevent confusion disguised as resistance, disengagement or poor performance. 
• People want leaders who make them feel heard and understood. 
• Ownership grows when leaders enable thinking instead of fixing everything. 
• Trust strengthens when leaders consistently match their actions with words. 
• Leaders often know performance metrics better than they know people. 
• High challenge backed by high support unlocks stronger leadership performance. 

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https://kyliepaatsch.com.au/ 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyliepaatsch/ 
https://www.instagram.com/kyliepaatschleadership/ 

Kylie’s book
The Connect Effect: How to Build Loyalty, Ownership and Engagement with Your Leaders https://amzn.com/1998528847 

Books recommended
Dare to Lead by Brene Brown https://amzn.com/1785042149 

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Made to Thrive: The practical, prescriptive guide on how to be a great CEO 
Onboarded: How to bring new hires to the points where they are more effective faster. A business case for leaders on why you should commit to an effective onboarded process. 
Onboarded for Managers: Helping managers bring new hires to the point where they are more effective faster. 
Bigger isn’t Better, Better is Better: Avoiding the pressure of endless growth to build a better business (and better life) 

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Entrepreneurs often build the business they want, then try to fit their life around it. The better path is to define the life you want first, then build a business that supports it. That’s according to Brian Brault, a seasoned entrepreneur, leadership educator and former global chair of Entrepreneurs’ Organisation. 

Brian built and scaled multiple companies, including Advanced Facilities Services, and now works through Legacy of Significance to help founders, leadership teams and families align leadership, purpose and relationships. 

Brian explores the danger of staying in the zone of excellence instead of the zone of genius, why relational authority matters as businesses scale, and why legacy is ultimately shaped by how we live, lead and serve others. 

Takeaways  

• Entrepreneurs create better businesses when they design their lives first, not last. 
• The zone of excellence can quietly drain energy, purpose and long-term fulfilment. 
• Great leaders build more leaders instead of creating dependent followers around them. 
• Relational authority matters more than positional authority as organisations grow and scale. 
• Businesses scale faster when founders stop believing they must do everything. 
• Healthy conflict strengthens teams when people feel safe, heard and respected. 
• Entrepreneurs often regret sacrificing relationships in pursuit of power, status or money. 
• Leadership is ultimately about serving others, building trust and creating meaning. 

Follow Brian Brault
https://legacyofsignificance.com/ 

Books recommended
Discover Your True North by Bill George https://amzn.to/42PpgyV 

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Onboarded: How to bring new hires to the points where they are more effective faster. A business case for leaders on why you should commit to an effective onboarded process. 
Onboarded for Managers: Helping managers bring new hires to the point where they are more effective faster. 
Bigger isn’t Better, Better is Better: Avoiding the pressure of endless growth to build a better business (and better life)  

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Great leadership is not about having all the answers. It is about creating clarity, communicating with empathy and helping people perform at their best under pressure. Leadership expert Leah Mether argues that the “soft skills” of communication, accountability and psychological safety are now the hardest and most valuable skills in business, especially in a world increasingly shaped by AI and constant change. 

Leah works with leaders and teams across Australia to strengthen communication, leadership and workplace culture, particularly in high-pressure and male-dominated industries. 

She explains why unclear expectations create conflict, why “difficult people” are often misunderstood, and why discomfort should not be confused with psychological unsafety. Leah also explores leading through uncertainty, balancing empathy with accountability, and why human skills will become the defining advantage in the future of work. 

Takeaways 

• Clear expectations prevent confusion, stress and wasted time across teams. 
• Psychological safety still allows tough conversations and honest feedback at work. 
• Great leaders balance empathy, accountability and clear communication under pressure. 
• Technical skill alone rarely creates strong, effective and trusted leaders. 
• Most workplace conflict starts from assumptions instead of upfront clarification. 
• Strong leaders challenge ideas without attacking people or damaging trust. 
• Human skills matter more as AI reshapes workplaces and leadership roles. 
• Leadership starts with understanding how others experience your behaviour. 

Follow Leah Mether
https://www.leahmether.com.au/ 
https://www.leahmether.com.au/category/video/ 

Leah’s books
Soft Is the New Hard: How to Communicate Effectively Under Pressure https://amzn.to/42xPOoa 
Steer Through the Storm: How to communicate and lead courageously through change https://amzn.to/4wlQtGO 

Books recommended
Red Brick Thinking by Donna McGeorge https://amzn.com/1394360843 

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Made to Thrive: The practical, prescriptive guide on how to be a great CEO 
Onboarded: How to bring new hires to the points where they are more effective faster. A business case for leaders on why you should commit to an effective onboarded process. 
Onboarded for Managers: Helping managers bring new hires to the point where they are more effective faster. 
Bigger isn’t Better, Better is Better: Avoiding the pressure of endless growth to build a better business (and better life)  

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Feeling stuck is not always a warning sign. Often, the discomfort, uncertainty and challenge people try to avoid are the very conditions that produce growth. 

Performance consultant, speaker and author Andrew Horsfield discusses why so many capable people mistake struggle for failure. Drawing on his work with leaders in business, elite sport and education, Andrew explains the difference between productive struggle and burnout, why busyness can become a form of avoidance, and how reflection creates awareness and better decision-making. 

He shares practical strategies for building a more intentional life, including how to align daily actions with long-term priorities, transition between roles with purpose, and recognise whether your effort is genuinely moving you forward. 

Takeaways 

• Growth often feels uncomfortable before it becomes meaningful, rewarding and transformative. 
• Burnout begins when effort loses meaning, direction, recovery and emotional balance. 
• Busyness often distracts people from uncomfortable truths requiring honest reflection and change. 
• Progress matters more than perfection when building meaningful work, leadership and relationships. 
• High performers struggle most when trying satisfying everyone instead of leading courageously. 
• Reflection helps people recognise harmful patterns before burnout quietly takes control completely. 
• Living intentionally requires aligning daily decisions with deeply important long-term personal values. 
• The most fulfilling lives are built through challenge, purpose, growth and connection. 

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https://andrewhorsfield.com/ 

Andrew’s book
Better: Escape Average, Beat Burnout, Own Your Life https://www.booktopia.com.au/better-andrew-horsfield/book/9781764492508.html 

Books recommended
The War of Art by Steven Pressfield  https://amzn.to/4daErqX 

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Made to Thrive: The practical, prescriptive guide on how to be a great CEO 
Onboarded: How to bring new hires to the points where they are more effective faster. A business case for leaders on why you should commit to an effective onboarded process. 
Onboarded for Managers: Helping managers bring new hires to the point where they are more effective faster. 
Bigger isn’t Better, Better is Better: Avoiding the pressure of endless growth to build a better business (and better life)  

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The future is not something technology decides for us. According to applied futurist Brian David Johnson, leaders must keep humans at the centre, retain their agency, and actively shape what comes next. 

Brian David Johnson is an applied futurist who helps governments, militaries, corporations and startups build actionable visions of the future. He was the first futurist at Intel Corporation, influencing decisions impacting billions of devices. He is Director of the Threatcasting Lab at Arizona State University, a senior fellow at Phaedrus, and a prolific author of nonfiction and science fiction. His work focuses on human-centred innovation, emerging technologies and preparing organisations for future risks and opportunities. 

Brian discusses artificial intelligence, human labour, resilience, science fiction prototyping and why optimism is a deliberate act. He explains why leaders should ask what they are optimising for, what they should never automate, and how better stories help build better futures. 

Takeaways 

• Technology doesn’t decide the future; humans must actively shape it. 
• Leaders fail when they focus on tools instead of people. 
• Artificial intelligence is software; humans remain responsible for outcomes. 
• Efficiency alone creates fragile organisations vulnerable to disruption and attack. 
• The future of work requires redefining value of human contribution. 
• Optimism is a choice that enables action rather than fear. 
• Strong cultures reward questioning, failure, and early problem discovery. 
• Storytelling helps leaders explore futures more effectively than spreadsheets. 

Follow Brian David Johnson 
https://www.phaedrusllc.com/ 
https://threatcasting.asu.edu/ 

BDJ’s books
What You Need to Know About AI https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B0CNLZ3Q1C/
The Future You https://amzn.com/0062965077
Science Fiction Prototyping 
https://amzn.com/3031006682
Wizards and Robots https://amzn.com/B06XWR7KZJ
21st Century Robot https://amzn.com/B00PTBV4AK 

Books recommended
Future Shock by Alvin Toffler https://amzn.to/4vL2oxH
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Onboarded: How to bring new hires to the points where they are more effective faster. A business case for leaders on why you should commit to an effective onboarded process. 
Onboarded for Managers: Helping managers bring new hires to the point where they are more effective faster. 
Bigger isn’t Better, Better is Better: Avoiding the pressure of endless growth to build a better business (and better life)  

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In the second of this two-part series Andres Zylberberg, Richard Peake and I continue to answer the rest of the 25 questions entrepreneurs must answer to build an enduring great company. 

After exploring vision and strategy in part one, this conversation moves into leadership, execution and the economic engine. We discuss why second-level leaders matter, why accountability must be documented and reviewed, and how effective meeting rhythms, priorities and metrics help turn strategy into consistent results. 

We also examine the financial disciplines that give leaders real confidence, including Profit Per X, productivity, working capital, customer lifetime value, acquisition cost, forecasting, resource allocation and return on invested capital. The result is a practical framework for building stronger leadership, better execution and compounding business freedom. 

Takeaways  

• Second-level leaders determine whether growth compounds or quietly stalls. 
• “A” players lift standards, accountability and performance across the business. 
• Scorecards turn vague expectations into clear ownership and better coaching. 
• Execution improves when priorities, metrics and meeting rhythms work together. 
• Strong meetings create timely decisions, alignment and genuine business momentum. 
• Profit Per X clarifies how the business truly creates value. 
• Realistic forecasts build confidence, commitment and better strategic decision-making. 
• Disciplined execution creates stronger profits, freedom and long-term business value. 

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Made to Thrive: The practical, prescriptive guide on how to be a great CEO 
Onboarded: How to bring new hires to the points where they are more effective faster. A business case for leaders on why you should commit to an effective onboarded process. 
Onboarded for Managers: Helping managers bring new hires to the point where they are more effective faster. 
Bigger isn’t Better, Better is Better: Avoiding the pressure of endless growth to build a better business (and better life) 

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For this special 100th episode, I’m joined by Andres Zylberberg and Richard Peake. We unpack the 25 questions every entrepreneur must answer. It is a framework designed to help business owners assess where growth is happening, where it is stalling, and what may be holding the business back. 

In part one of this two-part series, we focus on two of the five disciplines in the Compounding Growth Scorecard: vision and strategy. From purpose, values and long-term goals through to customer problems, competitive advantage and measurable progress, the distinction becomes clear between having good intentions and building a business with real alignment. Good businesses do not grow by accident. They grow when leaders make deliberate choices, communicate them well and stay focused on what matters most. 

Takeaways  

• Clarity in vision keeps everyone aligned and pulling in same direction. 
• Long term goals only matter if they turn into real priorities. 
• Purpose and values mean nothing unless they actually guide behaviour. 
• Strategy is about choosing what to do and what not. 
• Understanding your customer beats talking about what you sell every time. 
• Growth comes from doing the work, not just planning it. 
• One clear metric can bring a whole team together fast. 
• Real growth balances revenue, margins and the right kind of customers. 

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Made to Thrive: The practical, prescriptive guide on how to be a great CEO 
Onboarded: How to bring new hires to the points where they are more effective faster. A business case for leaders on why you should commit to an effective onboarded process. 
Onboarded for Managers: Helping managers bring new hires to the point where they are more effective faster. 
Bigger isn’t Better, Better is Better: Avoiding the pressure of endless growth to build a better business (and better life) 

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The true test of leadership is not what a person knows, but how they behave when the pressure is on. That’s according to behavioural risk strategist Preetie Boler, who insists that many workplace problems commonly seen as technical are, in fact, behavioural. 

With 30+ years’ experience in legal and commercial roles across construction and facilities management, Preetie explains why trust can be damaged in a single moment and why self-awareness alone is not enough to change that. 

She shares the behavioural patterns and practical tools she uses to help leaders respond more intentionally in high-pressure situations. Preetie explores how behaviour shapes culture, influences team performance, and determines whether leaders create safety, collaboration and trust when it matters most. 

Takeaways 

• Leadership is revealed in behaviour, especially during moments of pressure. 
• Under pressure, unconscious habits override even the best intentions. 
• Trust can be built or broken in a single conversation. 
• Self-awareness alone is not enough to change leadership behaviour. 
• Small behavioural shifts can dramatically improve team trust and performance. 
• Leaders must pause to choose intentional responses, not default reactions. 
• Behavioural patterns shape culture more than strategy, skills or knowledge. 
• Great leaders create safety, clarity and trust when stakes are highest. 

Follow Preetie Boler
https://www.empoweredbydesign.com.au/ 

Preetie’s book
Shiftcode Leadership: A guide to building thriving teams and a positive workplace culture https://amzn.to/3PzDSyR 

Books recommended
Mans search for Meaning – Viktor Frankl https://amzn.to/4d9BHfr 

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Onboarded: How to bring new hires to the points where they are more effective faster. A business case for leaders on why you should commit to an effective onboarded process. 
Onboarded for Managers: Helping managers bring new hires to the point where they are more effective faster. 
Bigger isn’t Better, Better is Better: Avoiding the pressure of endless growth to build a better business (and better life)

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Your results in negotiation are shaped long before you enter the room – the internal dialogue you carry determines whether you ask, hold firm, or settle early. That’s according to negotiation specialist Glin Bailey, whose background in commercial finance and two decades in multinational organisations brings a distinctive lens to negotiation. 

Glin shares her belief that every negotiation happens twice: externally with others, and internally  within ourselves. She outlines how identity, emotional intelligence and self-awareness influence outcomes, and introduces her VALUE method for navigating power imbalances, reframing price-driven discussions, and consistently securing stronger, more considered agreements. 

Takeaways 

• Your inner negotiation shapes every external negotiation long before words appear.
• Identity determines whether you ask boldly or settle far too early.
• Negotiation mastery begins with self-awareness, regulation and disciplined preparation.
• Price is rarely the whole story; value creates stronger leverage.
• Power often shifts through perception, not just size or status.
• The hardest question is usually the one most worth asking.
• Email can confirm agreements, but often weakens real negotiation outcomes.
• Better agreements with others begin with better agreements with yourself.

Follow Glin Bayley
https://simplyglin.com/ 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/glinbayley/

Glin’s book 
The Negotiation Playbook: Strategies That Work and Results That Last https://amzn.to/4sO7wyF 

Books recommended
The Science of Scaling by Ben Hardy https://amzn.to/47beAxb 

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Made to Thrive: The practical, prescriptive guide on how to be a great CEO 
Onboarded: How to bring new hires to the points where they are more effective faster. A business case for leaders on why you should commit to an effective onboarded process. 
Onboarded for Managers: Helping managers bring new hires to the point where they are more effective faster. 
Bigger isn’t Better, Better is Better: Avoiding the pressure of endless growth to build a better business (and better life) 

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