Sam speaks to developments in Trump's trials, the "pendulum swing" of political power, Gaza and the 2024 election, and more. Then, she talks with Jared Holt, Senior Research Analyst with the Institute for Strategic Dialogue. His writing can be found in various outlets including: The Washington Post, The Daily Beast, Columbia Journalism Review, HuffPost and GEN Magazine and his Substack is postthroughit.substack.com. Read his recent piece Election 2024: A rematch for the fate of US democracy

Mentioned in this episode:
From “Man Bites Dog” and “Oh My God” to “Dog Bites Man” and “Oh Well” On the Trivialization and Normalization of Fascism and Other Evils
Earth to Media: Try to Get It—Nice, Ordinary People Can Be Fascists by Brynn Tannehill
Project 2025: How Trump Loyalists and Right-Wing Leaders Are Paving a Fast Road to Fascism

Trump and the GOP’s Fascist Rhetoric Has Broad Appeal: Poll by Tim Dickinson

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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown
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