This one is long. And it's worth it. You better listen to the whole thing because what better way do you have to spend 1.5 hours? I get to hang out with the wonderful Kaitlin Weiss for this fascinating and special conversation. We talk about all the wonderful things Kaitlin is passionate about, justice, optimism, summer camp, peace, poetry, breath, religion, and fortune cookies. 30 years from now when President Weiss sits at her desk in the oval office, you'll really wish you listened to this baller episode of the Ferryman Show.