This week we bring you an important episode in regards to the hunting and fishing future here in Michigan,  but this isn't just a Michigan battle, this trend is spreading across the country. 
Merle Jones, from the MTPCA, joins us again as we talk about what happened at last week's NRC meeting. 
The DNRC voted to put a season back on coyotes after we've had a year round season since 2016.
That is a poor choice for managing these predators in Michigan,  but bigger than that is WHY they made that decision.  It was not based on science as proposal G requires, but was based on "Social science" better known as "feelings and emotions".
We talk about the specifics of what happened at the meeting,  and what can be done to ensure that,  in the future,  decisions on how our wildlife resources are managed are based on facts and science. 
This is very important information and a battle we need to win,  not just in Michigan but everywhere across the country. 

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This week, Josh and Kevin have another fireside chat. 
We start off by discussing recent hunts, or lack thereof.
Then we start talking Kevin's favorite subject, guns and ammo. 
We talk about bullet performance, minimum expansion velocity, how bullet performance is dependent on construction and velocity. 
We talk about different bullet types and how they are suited for different applications. 
Josh and Kevin discuss the importance of knowing your equipment and your own limitations. If you want the best experience in your pursuits, everything is a factor,  from familiarity with the controls of your equipment, how it performs in the field and also your ability to use it effectively.
Kevin relates a specific hunt that showed how his experience with a rapid reload for a shotgun, learned from competitive shooting, saved a hunt vs making it an even more embarrassing story.
Then Josh asks Kevin about his preferred bullets used for predator hunting in everything from 17wsm to 50bmg.

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Decisions, decisions...

"In this week's episode we welcome Rich Fowllab to the show.
Rich is a fellow Michigan hunter.
We start off with a quick discussion about the weekends fishing trip for Crappie and whatever else would bite down by Josh.
We then get to hear about Rich, how he got his start in hunting and the types of hunting he does, discussing some caliber choices, and experiences for deer using the .350 legend, which both Josh and Rich use for deer here in Michigan. 
We then talk a little bit about barrel life and differences in barrel construction.
We go into some detail about the equipment he uses for predators. Rich uses night vision, and he tells us why and we talk a bit about the calls, firearms and such that he uses as well. including likes and dislikes of his current set ups.
We get into some more detail in our continued academic research based off cell camera data and what we have gleaned from it, Rich also uses Reveal cameras and has compiled data from them in regards to predators.
We finish up with an update from Josh in regards to recent contact with his local DNR officers that clarified some issues for him and were helpful in making things more clear for him in regards to nuisance predator removal.
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Fireside chat- Rich Fowllab

On this week's podcast it's a fire side "tossed salad"
Josh starts off asking Kevin about how this last season archery league went and how he felt about the new arrows from ORC archery and his hopes to finally get a deer with it this upcoming season.
We talk about some recent depredation hunting, and how bad the ticks are this year already.
We talk a bit about snake experiences, then switch into some of Josh recent cooking experiences, including his preparing "jerk" chicken, and what is "hot" in terms of seasoning.
Kevin then asks Josh to elaborate a bit on his strategies for deer season preseason scouting, what he looks for, how he uses what he finds and how it has worked for him, we talk data that we have accumulated from the Reveal cameras and compare Josh's data on deer with Kevin's data of predators , finding some similarities that weren't really a surprise to us based off what we have seen for years now, and some info that either was different or the same for both types of animals based off data from the cameras, we then finish that subject with some of the strategies Josh has used for deer on public land.
We then move onto some more political and legal discussion in regards to a bill submitted to allow year round coyote hunting in MI ONLY if a hunter has purchased a fur harvesters license, and why that is a bad idea. The stats and data of fur harvesting and coyote hunting in terms of licenses and hunters numbers. We talk about how the rules are currently, how vague or confusing it is, and how some of the things that were stated were not truly applicable under the rules set by the DNR (specifically about still being able to hunt private land), we talk about the interpretation of  "reasonable distance" and the possible mindsets behind the DNR leaving it vague.
We then take a break from that and talk about some fishing, different species, and types of fishing that we enjoy.
To finish, Kevin and Josh both discuss their "bucket list" hunts. 
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Diarrhea of the mouth- Kevin and Josh

We each have that specific pursuit, a target species, whether it be fish, fowl, deer, predators or big game that gets our heart beating faster,  and in the end, what keeps us doing it year after year. 
This week Josh and Kevin talk about their recent turkey hunting experiences. 
We delve a little deeper into "the passion" that outdoorsmen and women feel,  and how it's different for each of us,  and why. 
Sometimes it is based on the experience,  and while you may not have deep seated emotions about the target animal,  the experience as a whole, the camaraderie, the trip, whatever, it can still lead to a memorable time in the outdoors. 
Josh explains more about why turkey hunting doesn't hold the same special place that deer or predators do, and Kevin explains why it does for him.

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Turkey Recap- Josh and Kevin

For this week's fireside chat, Josh and Kevin are joined by Elliot Hubbard.
The subject matter of this chat is out of state hunting, but we got a little side tracked with a couple other subjects to start, like hair styles, and martial arts training.
We then got talking about Elliot's recent out of state Turkey hunt, we talk about turkey camp, and the story of his successful hunt as well as his wifes successful hunt here in MI.
Kevin discusses his recent out of state hunt to Nebraska for coyotes and prairie dogs. How the terrain differences effected how he called, and what he learned from that, seeing a mountain lion, and how he could improve next time out there.
And in between those stories we talk about hunting here in MI, laws, politics, costs, and what an out of state hunt means to us, despite the cost.
We discuss turkey hunting quite a bit, differences between Indiana and MI, what you are allowed to do there and not allowed to do here,  strategies and more.

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The Fight for Michigan's Proposal G

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