The Fires in Grading

The Fires in Grading

By Garth Larson, Becky Peppler, Don SmithEducation
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The Fires in Grading episodes

  • Episode 34: How Are Colleges and Universities Handling SBG?

    In Episode 34 of Fires in Grading, Don, Becky, and Garth tackle one of the most common questions surrounding standards-based grading: “But what about college?” They’re joined by Sharona Krinsky and Robert Bosley, hosts of The Grading Podcast, to explore what is actually happening with grading in higher education. The conversation examines both sides of the college question, from how universities view students coming from standards-based systems to the growing movement among professors who are rethinking traditional grading practices themselves. The group also discusses reassessment, alternative grading, the difference between learning and point chasing, and whether our assumptions about “preparing students for college” are actually helping students become better learners.


    44 min
  • Episode 33: Gratitude to Those That Have Influenced Us

    In Episode 33 of Fires in Grading, Don, Becky, and Garth reflect on three influential voices who helped shape their thinking about assessment and grading: Ken O’Connor, Tom Guskey, and Rick Wormeli. The team explores how each challenged traditional grading practices, influenced the standards-based grading movement, and continues to shape the work happening in schools today. More than a look back, this episode is a tribute to the ideas and people who continue to push educators to question, refine, and improve grading practices.


    40 min
  • Episode 32: What is the Principal's Role in Making Standards-Based Grading Successful?

    The school year has just begun, and principals everywhere are balancing countless priorities while trying to lead meaningful instructional improvement. In this episode of Fires in Grading, Becky Peppler, Don Smith, and Garth Larson explore one of the most important—and often overlooked—questions in grading reform: What is the principal's role in making Standards-Based Grading successful?

    Together, they discuss how school leaders create the conditions for sustainable change, common leadership mistakes that unintentionally stall implementation, and practical ways principals can support teachers while keeping learning at the center. Along the way, Don shares insights from his new book, The Confidence to Lead, co-authored with Jenni Donohoo, and explains why leadership efficacy is essential to building a culture where both teachers and students can thrive.

    35 min
  • Episode 31: More Than Grades: Becky's Journey to Grading Reform

    In this special episode of Fires in Grading, the hosts begin a new series that explores the personal journeys behind their passion for assessment and grading reform. Garth Larson and Don Smith sit down with Becky Peppler to discuss her path from classroom teacher to national consultant, the experiences that challenged her thinking about traditional grading, and the students who inspired her to seek a better way. Becky also shares the key lessons she's learned throughout her career, the influences that shaped her philosophy, and an inside look at her new book, Reassessment That Works. Whether you're just beginning your grading journey or leading change in your school, this episode offers an authentic look at the experiences that continue to fuel Becky's commitment to improving learning for every student.

    34 min
  • Episode 30: New Teachers, Old Habits: Protecting Your SBL Culture

    In Episode 30 of Fires in Grading, Don, Becky, and Garth tackle one of the most overlooked challenges in grading reform: onboarding new teachers. While many districts invest significant time and effort into developing standards-based grading systems, far fewer create intentional processes to help new staff understand and sustain that work. The team explores how relying on mentors, assumptions, or “learning as you go” can lead to inconsistency, system drift, and the gradual erosion of a district’s grading philosophy. They discuss what effective onboarding should include, how leaders can preserve their grading culture through staff turnover, and why sustainability requires more than just a well-written handbook. If your district has been “doing the work” for several years, this episode will help you ensure that progress continues rather than slowly slipping away.


    32 min
  • Episode 29: Does SBG Work for Students with IEPs?

    One of the biggest concerns schools raise during grading reform is:

    “What about special education?”

    In Episode 29 of Fires in Grading, Becky, Don, and Garth are joined by special guest Danica Lewis to unpack the complicated and often misunderstood relationship between special education and standards-based grading.

    Together, the team explores common misconceptions around IEPs, accommodations, modified expectations, grading practices, and student support systems. The conversation focuses on how standards-based learning can actually create greater clarity and communication for students, teachers, and families when implemented thoughtfully.

    Whether you are a classroom teacher, interventionist, administrator, or special education teacher, this episode provides a practical perspective on ensuring grades communicate learning while still honoring student needs and supports.


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    35 min
  • Episode 28: Feedback is More Than a Score

    If feedback is one of the highest-impact instructional practices in education, why is it often missing from the grading process? Together, we explore the difference between grades and meaningful feedback, why students frequently ignore feedback, how traditional grading practices can unintentionally stop learning, and what schools can do to shift students from asking “What did I get?” to “What do I need next?” The conversation also highlights practical classroom strategies educators can use immediately to make feedback more impactful and learning-centered.


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    32 min
  • Episode 27: How does standards-based grading work in AP and dual enrollment courses?

    Join us as we tackle one of the most common questions schools ask during grading reform: How does standards-based grading work in AP and dual enrollment courses? The team explores the misconception that advanced courses require traditional grading practices and discusses how clarity around learning targets, aligned assessments, and meaningful feedback can still exist within AP and college-credit structures. They unpack the difference between instructional practices and reporting requirements, including how final letter grades can still emerge from a standards-based learning process. The conversation also dives into the role of College Board frameworks, the pressures schools face from higher education institutions, and why rigor should never be confused with grading complexity. Whether you teach AP, dual enrollment, or support secondary grading reform, this episode provides practical insight into maintaining learning-focused practices in advanced coursework.


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    27 min
  • Episode 26: What Auto Grading Misses - Why efficiency can’t replace insight into student learning

    Technology has made it easier than ever for teachers to create and grade assessments quickly. But what happens when efficiency replaces insight?

    In this episode, Becky, Don, and Garth explore a growing trend in classrooms: computer generated assessments that are automatically graded and return only a score. While these tools can save time, they can also limit teachers’ ability to see student thinking, identify misconceptions, and provide meaningful guidance for improvement.

    The conversation isn’t about rejecting technology. It’s about finding the right balance. Together, they unpack what auto grading can be useful for, what it often misses, and how teachers can protect their time without losing visibility into student learning.


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    32 min
  • Episode 25: What is the Purpose of Assessment?

    In this episode we explore a foundational question: What’s the purpose of assessment? Too often, assessment is viewed as a way to generate grades, but what if its true purpose is to gather evidence of learning? This episode challenges common practices, reframes assessment as a tool to reveal learning, and offers practical insights for shifting mindsets in classrooms and schools.

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    34 min

About The Fires in Grading

From the publisher's feed

In response to the challenges of transforming assessment and grading practices, this show offers educators and administrators insights and practical solutions to address common resistance points—or "fires"—in grading reform.