Families may only see us at the edges of the day — at drop-off and pickup — but trust is built in everything that happens in between.

In this episode, Jamie explores the often-invisible work of family partnership beyond face-to-face moments. From emails and newsletters to documentation, tone, and transparency, this conversation reframes communication as one of the most powerful tools educators have to build trust, advocate for their profession, and create a true sense of community.

Rooted in How Does Learning Happen?, the CECE Code of Ethics, and relationship-based practice, this episode challenges educators to see communication not as an extra task — but as intentional professional practice.

Because when families aren’t in the room, our words, documentation, and tone become the program.

Morning drop-off is more than a transition — it’s a threshold moment. It’s where children transition from home to community, where parents entrust them, and where educators subtly establish the emotional tone for the entire day.

In this episode, Jamie explores the professional, emotional, and developmental importance of morning drop-off in before- and after-school programs. Drawing on attachment theory, co-regulation, and reflective practice, she reframes drop-off as one of the most powerful — and underestimated — moments in school-age care.

Rather than focusing on perfection or routines alone, this episode centres presence, tone, and intentional connection — and how educators’ responses in the first minutes of the day shape children’s sense of safety, belonging, and readiness to engage.

Pickup time. Three minutes. Twenty backpacks. One educator is trying to hold connection, information, safety, and emotion all at once.

In this episode, Jamie dives into one of the most universal — and underestimated — moments in before- and after-school care: the guardian pickup conversation.

With genuine candour, warmth, and the wisdom of a seasoned school-age educator, Jamie explores what’s truly happening in that chaotic, sacred window at the end of the day. It’s not just signing children out or handing over reminders — it’s relationship-building in real time.

Jamie breaks down:

• Why pickup feels so chaotic — and why it matters
• How micro-moments shape family trust and confidence
• The emotional labour educators quietly carry in those last minutes
• What guardians are actually hearing between the lines
• How to share concerns with compassion and professionalism
• The small communication shifts that turn chaos into connection

This episode reminds educators that those quick end-of-day conversations are more than routine — they are the heartbeat of family engagement.

Whether you’re a new educator learning the “pickup dance,” a seasoned supervisor supporting your team, or someone who’s ever ended a day absolutely spent, this episode will leave you feeling seen, grounded, and proud of the work you do.

Because the truth is: Before- and after-school educators don’t just manage time — they build bridges between home and program, one 3-minute conversation at a time.

Split shifts are more than early mornings and late afternoons — they are emotional marathons.

In Episode 12, Jamie brings voice to the invisible work of school-age educators who live in the “in-between” hours: the early starts, the long breaks no one understands, and the emotional balancing act required to show up twice a day with presence, patience, and heart.

With honesty, humour, and a whole lot of compassion, Jamie explores the emotional labour behind split-shift work — the self-regulation, the empathy, the attunement, and the quiet resilience that never makes it onto a schedule.

She unpacks what research says about co-regulation and attachment during transitions, reflects on the realities of caregiver fatigue, and validates the educators who feel overstretched yet continue to hold space for children with incredible care.

This episode is a grounding reminder that school-age educators don’t just “cover hours” — they hold space, build belonging, and create emotional safety in the margins of the day.

Whether you’re an educator, a supervisor, or someone who has ever felt unseen in your split-shift role, this episode will make you feel understood, valued, and profoundly proud of the work you do.

Compliance. Just hearing the word can make an educator’s shoulders tense — especially in the fast-paced, ever-changing world of before- and after-school care.

In this episode, Jamie gets real about the emotional labour, pressure, and pride behind keeping programs compliant under the CCEYA — and why compliance isn’t just about checklists or binders. It’s about people.

From navigating borrowed spaces and unpredictable transitions to leading teams with compassion instead of fear, Jamie reframes compliance as something deeply human — a reflection of care, not control.

She reminds us that every policy has a heartbeat: ✅ Attendance means safety. ✅ Documentation means trust. ✅ Inspections mean accountability — and opportunity.

This episode is a powerful reminder that we can meet every regulation and still keep our hearts in the work.

Whether you’re an educator feeling the weight of expectations or a supervisor leading your team through licensing season, this one will leave you feeling seen, grounded, and proud of the professionalism that lives in every detail of your day.

In this special episode of The Forgotten ECE Podcast, I’m joined by two inspiring leaders in the early childhood education field: Carla Ward, host of The Everything ECE Podcast, and Julie Hansen, founder of The Inspired ECE.

We dive deep into practical and respectful guidance strategies for school-age children, exploring:

• Common challenges and how to reframe them
• Tools for building meaningful connections with kids
• Realistic approaches to structure and expectations
• A sneak peek into Carla and Julie’s exciting upcoming workshop on August 16th

Whether you're an educator, program leader, or advocate, this conversation is packed with powerful takeaways you can use right away.

✨ Connect with the Guests: 🔗 Carla Ward on Instagram: @elfoundations 🎧 Listen to Carla’s podcast: The Everything ECE Podcast 📸 Julie Hansen on Instagram: @inspired_ece

🗓️ Register for the August 16th workshop: 👉 elfoundations.thrivecart.com/guidance-strategies

🎧 Let’s keep showing up—because kids don’t stop growing when they turn six.

Time is short. Budgets are tight. But that doesn’t mean your programming has to feel flat or uninspired. In this episode, we dive into realistic, meaningful, and low-prep ideas that bring connection, joy, and purpose into your before and after school programs—without extra stress or spending.

From spontaneous games and open-ended materials to quick-win transitions and group reflections, this episode is packed with practical takeaways you can use tomorrow, even if your day is already jammed. Because sometimes, the most magical moments happen when we do less—with intention.

Perfect for:

✔️ Educators stretched thin

✔️ Teams working with limited resources

✔️ Anyone who wants to make a difference without burning out

You’ll walk away with:

• Easy go-to experiences that require zero prep
• Ways to shift mindset from “more stuff” to “more meaning”
• A challenge to reflect on what really makes an impact

In this episode of The Forgotten ECE, host Jamie Wagler explores how before and after school programs across different centres and agencies can move from isolation to collaboration. Discover how community-wide connections can reduce burnout, increase impact, and create more consistent, meaningful experiences for children and educators alike.

Whether you’re in a school, a community space, or a rural centre, this episode offers practical strategies and inspiring ideas to help you build bridges—not silos.

What does before and after school care look like on Canada’s West Coast?

In this special episode of The Forgotten ECE, we journey to British Columbia to hear from Cayley Burton, a dedicated educator leading a vibrant school-age program in her community. As part of our cross-country series, Beyond the Bell, Cayley sheds light on the structure, challenges, and stand-out successes of school-age care in B.C.

From staffing ratios and provincial supports to the small, powerful moments that make this work meaningful, Cayley brings her lived experience to the forefront. Whether you're an ECE professional, policymaker, or advocate, this episode will deepen your understanding of how before and after school programs are shaped by place—and by the passionate people who make them thrive.

💡 Discover what makes school-age care in B.C. unique. 💬 Hear real stories from the frontlines of extended-day learning. 🌱 Be inspired by Cayley’s vision for a more inclusive and supported future in child care.

Cayley Burton is an Early Childhood Educator, advocate, researcher, writer, and consultant. Holding a Master of Education (MEd) in Early Childhood Education from the University of British Columbia (UBC), Cayley has collaborated with the Coalition of Child Care Advocates (CCCABC) and AutismBC on advancing public policy for child care and disability support systems that meet localized community needs. Cayley currently lives, works, and plays on the traditional, unceded territory of the Coast Salish Peoples in Richmond, BC, where she's worked in before/after school programs for the past 4 years. Cayley is honoured to be a guest on Miss Jamie's podcast!

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In this heartfelt and practical episode, we sit down with a life coach who specializes in guiding moms through the complex world of parenting school-age children while prioritizing their own well-being. We explore the personal journey that led her to this work, the challenges modern moms face, and why self-care isn’t selfish—it’s essential.

From shifting mindsets around guilt and self-care to modeling emotional resilience, our guest offers empowering insights and actionable strategies for staying grounded amid the chaos of family life. We also dive into the everyday struggles moms encounter—like school stress, friendship issues, and big emotions—and how to know when extra support is needed. Plus, we talk about the importance of building a village, setting boundaries, and how partners and extended family can play a vital role.

Whether you’re feeling overwhelmed or just looking for a boost, this episode is a reminder that taking care of yourself is one of the best ways to take care of your kids.