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On today's episode, we welcome Kayla Snidal, the founder of Capable Learners and an experienced early childhood educator with over 15 years in the field.
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Have you ever noticed how a child who was “fine” at school completely unravels in your program at 3:30?
The tears. The shutdown. The explosive reaction over something small.
It’s not random. And it’s not because your program is the problem.
In this episode, we unpack the hidden emotional cost of “holding it together” all day at school — and why before and after school programs often become the place where everything spills out.
We explore:
But this conversation doesn’t stop at understanding.
We go deeper into what actually helps.
You’ll walk away with practical strategies for:
We also talk about the impact of your regulation — how your tone, posture, pacing, and response style directly influence whether a child stabilizes or spirals.
School-age children are navigating more complexity than ever before. They are managing social media exposure, peer comparison, academic demands, and social pressure — often without the emotional scaffolding to process it all.
Before and after school programs have a powerful opportunity: not just to supervise time, but to provide nervous system safety.
If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by the intensity of after-school behaviour, this episode will help you see it differently — and respond in ways that build resilience instead of resistance.
Because sometimes the meltdown isn’t misbehaviour.
It’s a relief.
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Moving from early years to school age can feel like an identity crisis.
In preschool, you’re needed constantly — tying shoes, regulating emotions, leading the room. Then suddenly you’re in a school-age program, and no one wants your planned activity. They’re building forts, forming friend groups, and asking, “Is it mandatory?”
What happened?
In this episode, we unpack the “independence shock” educators experience when transitioning to ages 4–12. We break down why autonomy isn’t rejection — it’s development. Grounded in Self-Determination Theory and school-age research, we explore the shift from directing to offering, from compliance to choice-based programming, and from being the center of the room to becoming the architect of the environment.
You’ll walk away with:
If you’ve ever thought, “They don’t need me like preschoolers did,” this episode is your reset.
They don’t need you the same way.
And that’s exactly the point.
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Families may only see us at the edges of the day — at drop-off and pickup — but trust is built in everything that happens in between.
In this episode, Jamie explores the often-invisible work of family partnership beyond face-to-face moments. From emails and newsletters to documentation, tone, and transparency, this conversation reframes communication as one of the most powerful tools educators have to build trust, advocate for their profession, and create a true sense of community.
Rooted in How Does Learning Happen?, the CECE Code of Ethics, and relationship-based practice, this episode challenges educators to see communication not as an extra task — but as intentional professional practice.
Because when families aren’t in the room, our words, documentation, and tone become the program.
Morning drop-off is more than a transition — it’s a threshold moment. It’s where children transition from home to community, where parents entrust them, and where educators subtly establish the emotional tone for the entire day.
In this episode, Jamie explores the professional, emotional, and developmental importance of morning drop-off in before- and after-school programs. Drawing on attachment theory, co-regulation, and reflective practice, she reframes drop-off as one of the most powerful — and underestimated — moments in school-age care.
Rather than focusing on perfection or routines alone, this episode centres presence, tone, and intentional connection — and how educators’ responses in the first minutes of the day shape children’s sense of safety, belonging, and readiness to engage.
Pickup time. Three minutes. Twenty backpacks. One educator is trying to hold connection, information, safety, and emotion all at once.
In this episode, Jamie dives into one of the most universal — and underestimated — moments in before- and after-school care: the guardian pickup conversation.
With genuine candour, warmth, and the wisdom of a seasoned school-age educator, Jamie explores what’s truly happening in that chaotic, sacred window at the end of the day. It’s not just signing children out or handing over reminders — it’s relationship-building in real time.
Jamie breaks down:
This episode reminds educators that those quick end-of-day conversations are more than routine — they are the heartbeat of family engagement.
Whether you’re a new educator learning the “pickup dance,” a seasoned supervisor supporting your team, or someone who’s ever ended a day absolutely spent, this episode will leave you feeling seen, grounded, and proud of the work you do.
Because the truth is: Before- and after-school educators don’t just manage time — they build bridges between home and program, one 3-minute conversation at a time.
Split shifts are more than early mornings and late afternoons — they are emotional marathons.
In Episode 12, Jamie brings voice to the invisible work of school-age educators who live in the “in-between” hours: the early starts, the long breaks no one understands, and the emotional balancing act required to show up twice a day with presence, patience, and heart.
With honesty, humour, and a whole lot of compassion, Jamie explores the emotional labour behind split-shift work — the self-regulation, the empathy, the attunement, and the quiet resilience that never makes it onto a schedule.
She unpacks what research says about co-regulation and attachment during transitions, reflects on the realities of caregiver fatigue, and validates the educators who feel overstretched yet continue to hold space for children with incredible care.
This episode is a grounding reminder that school-age educators don’t just “cover hours” — they hold space, build belonging, and create emotional safety in the margins of the day.
Whether you’re an educator, a supervisor, or someone who has ever felt unseen in your split-shift role, this episode will make you feel understood, valued, and profoundly proud of the work you do.
Compliance. Just hearing the word can make an educator’s shoulders tense — especially in the fast-paced, ever-changing world of before- and after-school care.
In this episode, Jamie gets real about the emotional labour, pressure, and pride behind keeping programs compliant under the CCEYA — and why compliance isn’t just about checklists or binders. It’s about people.
From navigating borrowed spaces and unpredictable transitions to leading teams with compassion instead of fear, Jamie reframes compliance as something deeply human — a reflection of care, not control.
She reminds us that every policy has a heartbeat: ✅ Attendance means safety. ✅ Documentation means trust. ✅ Inspections mean accountability — and opportunity.
This episode is a powerful reminder that we can meet every regulation and still keep our hearts in the work.
Whether you’re an educator feeling the weight of expectations or a supervisor leading your team through licensing season, this one will leave you feeling seen, grounded, and proud of the professionalism that lives in every detail of your day.
In this special episode of The Forgotten ECE Podcast, I’m joined by two inspiring leaders in the early childhood education field: Carla Ward, host of The Everything ECE Podcast, and Julie Hansen, founder of The Inspired ECE.
We dive deep into practical and respectful guidance strategies for school-age children, exploring:
Whether you're an educator, program leader, or advocate, this conversation is packed with powerful takeaways you can use right away.
✨ Connect with the Guests: 🔗 Carla Ward on Instagram: @elfoundations 🎧 Listen to Carla’s podcast: The Everything ECE Podcast 📸 Julie Hansen on Instagram: @inspired_ece
🗓️ Register for the August 16th workshop: 👉 elfoundations.thrivecart.com/guidance-strategies
🎧 Let’s keep showing up—because kids don’t stop growing when they turn six.
Time is short. Budgets are tight. But that doesn’t mean your programming has to feel flat or uninspired. In this episode, we dive into realistic, meaningful, and low-prep ideas that bring connection, joy, and purpose into your before and after school programs—without extra stress or spending.
From spontaneous games and open-ended materials to quick-win transitions and group reflections, this episode is packed with practical takeaways you can use tomorrow, even if your day is already jammed. Because sometimes, the most magical moments happen when we do less—with intention.
Perfect for:
✔️ Educators stretched thin
✔️ Teams working with limited resources
✔️ Anyone who wants to make a difference without burning out
You’ll walk away with:
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The Forgotten ECE is a podcast for School Age Early Childhood Educators; Child and Youth Workers and Recreation Staff. Host , Jamie Wagler unpacks the ins and outs of Before and After School, PD…