Darin and Amy Ramos talk about Darin\'s recent trip to Toronto. Darin gives an update on how everything went and what a wonderful time he had with all the people there. Amy talks about an article she read on the internet about how a team os scollars are attempting to prove that much of the Old Testament Scriptures were written after the actual events took place. In other words, they weren\'t prophecies written before hand. Darin and Amy go on to discuss what something like this might do to the average Christians faith. Many Christians today have based their entire faith on the belief that the bible is infallable. They have exchanged God for the bible and have given the bible the character attributes of God Himself. This is why so many Christians go into a panic the moment anyone attempts to prove that there might be descrepencies throughout the bible. Modern day Christians see that as an attack on their God, because \"their god\" is the bible. 

Darin and Aimee Dassele discuss the condition that many of us are in when we exit organized religion and how unaware the average person is as to just how destroyed they really are. Mos of us left our religion with a pretty good idea of how hurt and angry we were. We at least felt that we had a handle on it and knew ourselves pretty well. As we begin to walk in the wild and spend time away from the world of fear and manipulation we start to realize just how devistated we really were from that world. Darin is finding that the longer he lives in freedom, the more he becomes in tune with exactly how hurt he was in the institutional church. This attack went unnoticed becaus from the get-go in the institutional church world, we are all taught to deny ourselves and reject our own heart. Living in the wild is a process where we slowly come back into contact with ourselves and discover the wounds that were left there by religion. 

Darin and Robert talk about the usual pattern of healing that Free Believers goes through after leaving the church system. Usually there is a phase the first year or two where people are angry with the institutional church and all the lies they were taught to believe over the years. There comes a point during the \"church bashing phase\" when people either come full circle and asknowledge their own responsibility in the bondage precess. We have to own up to our part in all this. Oppress and manipulate me once; shame on YOU. Oppress and manipulate me twice; SHAME ON ME. Until we are willing to take at least some of the responsibility for our bondage, we usually end up stuck in the \"church bashing phase\" for way longer than we want too. 

Darin and Heidi Venie talk about the central focus of everything Darin does in the ministry. More than anything else in the world, it is relief that Darin enjoys bringing to people who are under fear and condemnation. \"RELIEF\" is the common denominator that is threaded throughout every podcast, blog, article and sermon on the Free Believers Network website. Some people would like to think that the heart of the FBN is to create controversy, and others would say it\'s to bring the institutional church to it\'s knees. Providing relief to people who\'s hearts have been burdened and enslaved is the number one motive behind everything Darin does. Love cannot get past this. 

Darin talks with Heidi Venie again. Heidi is an ex-worship leader and has had to wrestle with what a \"spiritual experience\" really is compared to what she\'s always believed it to be. After being raised on a steady diet of pentecostal worship services, it\'s difficult to connect with God without a band, lighting and a great sound system. Rather then write off all her spiritual experiences in the church world as being emotionalism or fake; Heidi has come to a place where she can embrace her past experiences with God as well as her present. Many Free Believers feel they have to renounce everything from the church world as being phony or wrong. Heidi has found that this isn\'t nessessary. 

Darin and Aimee join Heidi Venie once again for a great discussion on what it really means to have faith and belief as a Christian. For so long, we have been taught that things like faith and belief only pertained to our relationship with God. Most of us have been carrying on two types of relationships. We have our human friends who we can both see and hear, and then we have our relationship with an invisible and inaudible God. It seems that the first relationship requires no amount of faith because we actually SEE people. The relationship with God is completely based on faith because God is invisible. Though this is how most Christians view their life, it is actually the epitome of double-mindedness. This conversation will change your perspective on faith and belief altogether and open up doors that just might bring to life an entire world you never knew existed. 

Darin talks with Heidi Venie again about what the difference is between Free Believers and most \"church people\" we grew up with. Heidi lives in a small town where being a Free Believer can be a bit of a challenge. Most of us have come out of the church world where we were inundated with teachings on how to spread the message and win people to Christ. Our method of witnessing usually included an invitation to our church or bible study. There always seemed to be an agenda behind everything we did. The question many new Free Believers have now that they are living in the wild is, \"How do we witness to people.\" We ask this because now we don\'t have something to invite them too. This worries some of us, but the fact is that what we do bring to the table is even more powerful than having a group or church. Free Believers are simply people who have extremely good news. We deliver it and fade away. 

Darin talks with his good friend Heidi Venie from Wasilla Alaska. Heidi was on the \"Into the Wild\" show about a year ago and started a firestorm in her home town. It\'s been two years since she left the institutional church system where she used to be a worship leader. Heidi talks about the difference of worship in the wild verses what she was used to in the institution. Because of the way everything is set up in \"church\" many of us have wrong ideas about what worship is. It becomes a manipulative show that starts at 7:00pm every Sunday night. Heidi is like many Free Believers people who used to lead worship. She is on a journey of rediscovery. She is learning who she is and what role that will play in the wild. You\'ll enjoy this conversation.