Let’s be honest, there was a lot of brooding going on in the ’90s. But this week’s track may have been the most brooding thing to come out of the whole decade, and we all loved it. The grim story of The Verve Pipe’s “The Freshmen” is on the show this week, and we chat with writer and frontman about its creation, the downside of the music business, finding creative freedom and more, plus:

- Being crowd pleasers

- ‘90s shirt fashion

- Lawn chairs and living rooms

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