The use of drones is transforming how the war in Ukraine is being fought. Squadrons of pilots, mostly young men, are deploying skills and reflexes learned from videogames to attack Russian troops and inflicting casualties, while acting like military startups in the field. WSJ’s Ukraine bureau chief, James Marson, joins host James Rundle to discuss how this new crop of nontraditional soldiers are developing the future of modern warfare. Plus, we put artificial-intelligence chatbots through their paces, with a weekend in the woods.

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