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What if the greatest barrier to your success isn’t the world outside—but the silent story you keep telling yourself inside your own head?
In this compelling episode of Gen Mess with Tess, host Tess Brigham sits down with Dr. Ashok Bhattacharya, psychiatrist and founder of The Empathy Clinic, to explore why empathy isn’t just a “soft skill”—it’s the invisible glue shaping our relationships, workplaces, and personal growth. Dr. Bhattacharya reveals how early life experiences and powerful moments (sometimes as tiny as a single comment from a grade school teacher) can shape the narratives that define—and sometimes limit—us for decades.
Together, Tess and Dr. Bhattacharya dig deep into how we can unravel unhelpful stories, challenge survival-mode thinking, and truly transform how we connect with ourselves and each other. They break down the real difference between empathy, compassion, and kindness, and explain why even a little bit of genuine empathy can make or break a relationship, a workplace, or even your own self-worth.
Key highlights you’ll discover in this episode:
If you’re curious about how to actually practice empathy (not just talk about it), handle disagreement gracefully, or help your team, family, or yourself thrive in a messy, ever-changing world, this episode is packed with actionable wisdom and heartfelt stories.
Timestamps Overview:
00:00 – Intro: The generational “mess” & Tess’s mission
00:31 – Dr. Ashok Bhattacharya’s origin story & why empathy matters
04:40 – How the stories we tell ourselves can cripple us
07:04 – Why falling down (in skating…or life) is harder to process than you think
10:16 – The amplified pressures of today’s tech-driven world for the younger generation
12:39 – Practice, failure, and shame: Why young people get “stuck”
14:40 – What empathy, compassion, and kindness actually are
16:28 – The real challenge of empathy and “getting out of your head”
19:46 – Can you be empathic with people you disagree with?
23:03 – Tess’s therapy work: The invisible ripple effect of empathy
26:57 – “Soft skills” and how small moments shape lives
31:16 – The privilege of being “with” someone as a therapist
32:37 – Why bridging generational divides requires empathy
34:59 – How generations value and practice empathy differently
39:08 – Practical steps for leaders and teams to actively use empathy
42:07 – Why “a little empathy goes a long way” in the workplace
44:08 – Empathy as a proactive force for productivity and trust
45:54 – Where to find Dr. Bhattacharya + his books on empathy and burnout
48:33 – The secret power of reciprocal empathy in couples
49:13 – Outro: Embracing the mess and learning to live in it
Listen in—and discover how empathy isn’t a luxury. It’s your greatest tool for navigating the messiness of modern life.
Follow for weekly episodes, and be sure to visit tessbrigham.com to learn more about Tess's work as a licensed therapist and certified coach.
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What if the American Dream your parents promised you was nothing but a myth? What if the payoff for all your hard work simply… never arrives?
In this eye-opening episode of the Gen Mess with Tess, host Tess Brigham sits down with writer, podcaster, and former writing professor Amye Archer to pull back the curtain on generational work myths, shifting values, and what’s really happening as Gen Xers raise Gen Z kids in a world that looks nothing like the one they inherited.
Key Highlights:
Whether you’re wondering how to deal with your Gen Z coworkers, trying to understand your kids, or facing your own career pivot, this episode is a must-listen for anyone ready to finally make sense of the generational mess—and maybe even be inspired by it.
Episode Overview:
00:00 – Introductions & Pop Culture Blindspots: Gen X vs Gen Z
01:16 – Work, Creativity & Gen X Disillusionment
04:09 – Gen Z’s Bargaining Power at Work
06:06 – Parenting Styles Then and Now
10:56 – Mental Health, Communication & Anxiety in Kids
11:20 – Building a Podcast Career Outside the Traditional Path
12:52 – How Writing, Creativity, & Therapy Fuel Podcasting
15:00 – Why Amye Started Little Miss Recap & Murder She Watched
16:13 – Leaving Academia and Lessons from Career Pivots
18:27 – Working With a Spouse in the Podcasting World
19:33 – Surprises in Raising Gen Z Daughters
23:42 – Gen Z, World Issues & Climate Anxiety
25:23 – Gen Z and Money, Work-Life Balance, and Defining Success
26:58 – Gen X, Boomers, and the Vanishing American Dream
29:14 – Advice Gaps: Why “Old” Solutions Don’t Fit New Problems
31:09 – Why Professors (and Managers) Are Burned Out
33:27 – What Gen Z Has Taught Gen X About Self-Respect and Boundaries
35:25 – Parental Concerns: Coddling vs. Independence
38:39 – The Importance of Modeling and Letting Kids Fail
40:13 – Advice for Managing Gen Z at Work
41:58 – Why Work Should Focus on Output, Not Hours
43:11 – The Need for Personal Connection in the Modern Workplace
45:14 – Wrapping Up & Amye’s Podcast Plugs
Press play to discover how to stop fixing the mess—and start living in it.
Follow for weekly episodes, and be sure to visit tessbrigham.com to learn more about Tess's work as a licensed therapist and certified coach.
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What if the secret to skyrocketing your company’s profits isn’t better tech, but happier employees?
In this episode of Gen Mess With Tess, host Tess Brigham sits down with powerhouse people & culture leader Jessica Holst (SpaceX, CAA, Mattel, Verve) to pull back the curtain on why traditional HR practices—and even today’s obsession with AI—are missing the real leverage point for business success: the emotional well-being and engagement of your team.
Jessica reveals why most companies are completely underestimating how much empowering employees (instead of controlling them) transforms productivity, innovation, and the bottom line. Through compelling stories from Hollywood’s notorious agency world to surprising data on what actually drives performance, Jessica and Tess dive into:
If you’re a business owner, manager, future leader, or anyone struggling with workplace “mess”—don’t miss this deep, frank, and refreshingly actionable conversation. You’ll walk away with new strategies (and maybe a few hard truths) for bridging generational divides, unlocking creativity, and making your company a magnet for talent.
Episode Overview
Tune in for an episode that just might change the way you think about work—and how to make it work better, for everyone.
Follow for weekly episodes, and be sure to visit tessbrigham.com to learn more about Tess's work as a licensed therapist and certified coach.
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What if the biggest problem with your writing isn’t your grammar or structure—but the way you think?
In this eye-opening episode of Gen Mess with Tess, host Tess Brigham sits down with her personal writing coach, Brian Morgan, founder of Think Deeply, Write Clearly, to reveal the transformative link between writing, thinking, and the human condition. Get ready to reconsider everything you thought you knew about creativity, communication, and the very process of making sense of the world.
Brian shares his unconventional journey from struggling actor to billion-dollar report editor, ultimately landing as a leading expert in sense-making through writing. Together, Tess and Brian dive into:
Whether you’re a business leader, educator, or someone wanting to bridge the generational communication gap, this episode is packed with vulnerable stories, tough truths, and actionable takeaways for thriving in the modern world—mess and all.
Timestamped Overview:
00:00 – Tess introduces the Gen Mess with Tess and welcomes Brian Morgan
00:01 – Brian’s background: From acting to editing billion-dollar contracts to writing coaching
00:07 – Are artists really after creative mastery or just fame?
00:14 – What acting teaches about observation, sense-making, and writing
00:17 – Why most writing “problems” are actually thinking problems
00:22 – The danger of conclusions without sense-making frameworks; politics and business examples
00:29 – Is it our individual job to make sense of the world? Stories of self-reflection, failure, and growth
00:43 – The crisis in education: Why today’s students struggle with thinking and writing (COVID-19’s impact and beyond)
00:50 – Rapid fire: Brian’s top writing/communication tip you can use right now
00:53 – Free resource: How to join Brian’s 90-day prolific writing program
Listen, reflect, and discover how you can clean up your own “gen mess”—one clear thought at a time.
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What if the American Dream was never really meant for everyone? And what if today’s younger generations are reinventing it into something healthier and more meaningful?
In this thought-provoking solo episode, Tess Brigham dives headfirst into the messy legacy of the American Dream—exposing who it really served, how it shaped generations, and why Gen Z and Millennials are outgrowing the old rules. Tess peels back the glossy myth of "work hard and you’ll have it all," uncovering the hidden realities of racial, gender, and economic exclusion. Through personal anecdotes, cultural observations (from Bake Sale Betty to Barbie to Mad Men), and data-driven insights, Tess reveals how younger generations are rewriting the dream: prioritizing enough over excess, values over grind, and happiness over hustle.
Tune in to discover:
If you’ve ever wondered why “kids these days” have different aspirations—or if you’re struggling with your own feelings about work and self-worth—this episode will help you see the American Dream in a whole new light.
Timestamps:
Subscribe for more real talk with Tess Brigham, or visit tessbrigham.com to learn how Tess can help your organization thrive across generations!
Follow for weekly episodes, and be sure to visit tessbrigham.com to learn more about Tess's work as a licensed therapist and certified coach.
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What if the secret to true influence is saying “no” more often than saying “yes”?
In this eye-opening episode of Gen Mess with Tess, host Tess Brigham sits down with Brad Hoos—CEO of The Outloud Group and founder of Musk Ox—to unravel the myths and realities behind the influencer industry, generational shifts at work, and what it really takes to lead with authenticity.
Brad didn’t set out to become an influencer marketing expert—in fact, he’s a self-described “recovering engineer” and ex-management consultant. But after an unlikely twist in his career, Brad now leads an agency representing top creators on YouTube, TikTok, and beyond. Together, Tess and Brad dig deep into:
Plus, Tess and Brad open up about parenting across generations, living in the chaotic mess of life, and what today’s rising leaders are getting right (and wrong) about carving their own paths.
This episode is a must-listen whether you’re an aspiring influencer, people leader, or simply navigating the generational dynamics at work and home.
Timestamped Episode Overview:
00:00 – Tess introduces Brad Hoos and the evolving generational “mess”
01:09 – Brad’s unexpected journey from engineering to influencer marketing
03:50 – Why consulting shaped his approach to data-driven, people-first campaigns
05:46 – The Super Bowl, Kendrick Lamar, and the myth of “faking” influence
06:48 – How trust and authenticity drive true influence online
09:06 – The power of creators saying “no” and the perils of commercial oversaturation
12:02 – Brad’s daily routines and mental health as a CEO
15:09 – Productivity hacks that actually work (and those that don’t)
18:42 – Why subtraction is the real path to sanity for leaders
21:58 – Outloud’s unique definition of success and growth-focused culture
25:37 – Building a company around emotional intelligence and radical candor
28:05 – Brad’s pivotal moment learning to stop carrying leadership’s emotional weight
32:37 – Parenting, presence, and finding joy in living fully “in the moment”
36:53 – How millennials and Gen Z have redefined influence, fame, and advocacy
44:27 – Why Gen Z’s drive for purpose and connection is changing everything
50:41 – Is the influencer dream a search for real community?
Don’t forget to subscribe, and if you’re ready to bridge your own generational gaps, check out Tess’s work at tessbrigham.com or connect with Brad and his team at outloudgroup.com!
Follow for weekly episodes, and be sure to visit tessbrigham.com to learn more about Tess's work as a licensed therapist and certified coach.
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What if your favorite ‘90s sitcom is actually an aspirational fantasy—and today’s TV is a brutally honest mirror?
In this unexpected solo episode, Tess Brigham dives into the wild evolution of 20-something life on TV, revealing what Friends got right (and wrong) about young adulthood, and why the new FX series Adults hits closer to home for Gen Z.
Tess shares her own Hollywood background before she became a therapist and coach, unpacking how pop culture doesn’t just entertain us—it reflects our deepest worries, hopes, and the messy realities of growing up. Using Friends and Adults as cultural bookends, Tess explores how economic stability, rent prices, college debt, technology, social media, and discussions around identity and mental health have radically reshaped what it means to "grow up" over just 30 years.
Key highlights include:
Whether you grew up wishing you could hang out at Central Perk or you’re hustling in your parents' house in Queens, this episode asks: What does adulthood really mean—and how do we redefine it together?
Timestamped Episode Overview:
00:00:01 – Intro & show mission; Tess shares her Hollywood background
00:01:33 – Why pop culture is a “mirror” for our lives
00:02:02 – Comparing FX’s Adults and Friends: then vs. now
00:03:38 – Economic realities for young adults in the ‘90s
00:04:51 – Tech, social media, and how comparison has changed
00:05:31 – How Adults depicts modern realities: housing, healthcare, and job insecurity
00:07:59 – (Ad break) Tess discusses her work with organizations
00:08:45 – Diversity, privilege, identity: from invisible to center stage
00:09:31 – Universal truths of young adulthood that never change
00:10:59 – Today’s heightened pressures: rent, debt, and fragile economy
00:12:11 – Technology amplifies awareness—and anxiety
00:13:18 – Why comparing the two shows matters for every generation
00:14:16 – What each generation can learn from Friends and Adults
00:14:58 – The enduring importance of friendship and connection
00:16:25 – Closing thoughts & where to find more from Tess
Don’t miss this episode if you’ve ever felt caught between nostalgia and reality—or want to understand how every generation tries (and struggles) to make sense of this “gen mess.”
Follow for weekly episodes, and be sure to visit tessbrigham.com to learn more about Tess's work as a licensed therapist and certified coach.
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What if the secret to manifesting the life you want isn’t just about thinking positive thoughts—what if it’s about understanding how your mind, heart, and healing all work together?
In this episode of Gen Mess with Tess, host Tess Brigham sits down with transformational speaker and life coach Billy Giannouloudis (aka Billy G), and the conversation is full of surprising wisdom, down-to-earth insights, and a fresh, spiritual take on both coaching and therapy.
Billy shares the profound turning point in his life when everything seemed to fall apart—family, relationships, career plans—only to realize that this mess was exactly what led him to his true calling. He opens up about his coaching journey, including his training with Tony Robbins, and reveals how real transformation happens when we blend action-based coaching with deeper therapeutic healing.
Key highlights include:
Whether you’re curious about what really works in life coaching, trying to rewrite your own mental script, or just looking to finally “get” manifestation without the hype, this episode brings the real talk and actionable steps you need.
Episode Overview (Timestamps):
Listen in for a truly fresh conversation that blends the pragmatic, the spiritual, and the real challenges we all face living in the “mess” of modern life.
Follow for weekly episodes, and be sure to visit tessbrigham.com to learn more about Tess's work as a licensed therapist and certified coach.
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What if your job was just a hobby—and not your entire reason for existence?
On this episode of “Gen Mess with Tess,” host Tess Brigham sits down with Katie O’Brien, a Gen Z professional working abroad at a multinational company, who’s redefining what it means to build a career in a world overflowing with choices, expectations, and the ever-present pressure of comparison.
Together, Tess and Katie dive into the most surprising realities of starting out in today’s workforce—not just the freedom to pivot and explore multiple paths, but also the unexpected paralysis that comes from “too many options.” Katie opens up about the struggles of decision making in an age of social media highlight reels, the burden of being compared to previous generations, and her candid take on why Gen Z refuses to let work define their entire lives.
Other key highlights include:
Whether you’re trying to figure out your next move, manage Gen Z employees, or just want to know how today’s young professionals are navigating their own “gen mess,” this episode will give you insight, practical advice, and maybe even a little relief knowing everyone’s just figuring it out as they go.
Episode Overview:
Listen in for an authentic, cross-generational conversation about what it really means to make sense of the mess today.
Follow for weekly episodes, and be sure to visit tessbrigham.com to learn more about Tess's work as a licensed therapist and certified coach.
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What if everything you thought you knew about yourself—and the world around you—was just one small piece of a much bigger, messier puzzle?
In this deeply personal solo episode, host Tess Brigham pulls back the curtain on "The Gen Mess with Tess," revealing major changes to the direction of the show. Tess opens up about her journey from focusing solely on generational differences to confronting the deeper, messier questions about identity, purpose, and making sense of a confusing world. She candidly shares why she’s expanding the scope of the podcast, explains the real meaning behind the term “mess,” and how embracing life’s gray areas can bring more peace and self-acceptance.
Listeners will get an inside look at:
If you’ve ever felt lost, stuck, or overwhelmed by a world that doesn’t make sense, this episode offers comfort, clarity, and an invitation to explore life’s uncertainties together.
Episode Overview & Timestamps:
Tune in and get ready to find comfort—and maybe even answers—in the messiness of being human.
Follow for weekly episodes, and be sure to visit tessbrigham.com to learn more about Tess's work as a licensed therapist and certified coach.
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