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How are PE-backed environments unique for SaaS CMOs? And what's the difference between the CMOs who flourish in PE-backed companies and those who flounder? This episode is required listening for any current or prospective CMO in a PE-backed company.
This week on The Get, Erica Seidel dives into the nuances of marketing leadership in PE-backed B2B SaaS orgs with guest Julie Zadow, Growth Marketing Leader at The Riverside Company. They explore Julie's role in private equity as a marketing operating partner, insights into aligning marketing strategies with investment firm goals, and the impact of AI on marketing roles and operations.
You will learn about:
00:00 Welcome to The Get: Introduction and Overview
00:58 Introducing Julie Zadow: A Marketing Leader's Journey
02:10 The Role of a Marketing Operating Partner in Private Equity
03:58 Aligning Marketing Strategies with Investor Expectations
14:30 The Impact of AI on SaaS Marketing Organizations
26:18 Advice for CMOs in Private Equity-Backed Companies
34:21 Final Thoughts and Conclusion
The Get is here to drive smart decisions around recruiting and leadership in B2B SaaS marketing. We explore the trends, tribulations, and triumphs of today’s top marketing leaders in B2B SaaS.
This season’s theme is how SaaS marketing organizations are changing — in both seismic and subtle ways.
The Get’s host is Erica Seidel, who runs The Connective Good, an executive search practice with a hyper-focus on recruiting CMOs and VPs of Marketing, especially in B2B SaaS.
If you are looking to hire a CMO or VP of Marketing of the ‘make money’ variety, rather than the ‘make it pretty’ variety, contact Erica at [email protected]. You can also follow Erica on LinkedIn or sign up for her newsletter at TheConnectiveGood.com.
The Get is produced by the team at Simpler Media Productions.
In this episode of The Get, host Erica Seidel explores the changing landscape of SaaS marketing organizations with guest Jay Roxe, CMO at Inriver. You'll learn about:
Quotes:
00:00 Welcome to The Get
00:16 Introducing Jay Roxe
00:40 Jay's Marketing Journey
02:32 Inriver's Global Marketing Org
06:24 Future of SaaS Marketing Orgs
11:15 The Role of AI in Marketing
14:54 Hiring for the Future
19:30 Human-Centric Leadership
21:53 Customer Marketing Insights
24:32 Final Thoughts and Advice
29:21 Closing Remarks
The Get is here to drive smart decisions around recruiting and leadership in B2B SaaS marketing. We explore the trends, tribulations, and triumphs of today’s top marketing leaders in B2B SaaS.
This season’s theme is how SaaS marketing organizations are changing — in both seismic and subtle ways.
The Get’s host is Erica Seidel, who runs The Connective Good, an executive search practice with a hyper-focus on recruiting CMOs and VPs of Marketing, especially in B2B SaaS.
If you are looking to hire a CMO or VP of Marketing of the ‘make money’ variety, rather than the ‘make it pretty’ variety, contact Erica at [email protected]. You can also follow Erica on LinkedIn or sign up for her newsletter at TheConnectiveGood.com.
The Get is produced by the team at Simpler Media Productions.
In this episode of The Get, host Erica Seidel and guest Ashley Deibert, CMO of Marigold, candidly discuss the realities of leading marketing in today's SaaS landscape.
Ashley shares how she's navigated seismic shifts in marketing org structures, budget realities, and the CMO role itself, all while keeping alignment at the center of her approach. You'll learn from her perspective on:
If you're a marketing leader, a CEO hiring a CMO, or otherwise navigating the changing currents of SaaS go-to-market, you'll learn new insights and frameworks from this episode.
Some quotes of note:
00:00 Welcome to The Get: Meet Your Host Erica Seidel
00:16 Introducing Ashley Deibert: CMO at Marigold
01:19 Ashley Deibert's Career Journey and Insights
03:51 Mentorship Moments: Lessons Learned
07:43 Marketing Org Structure at Marigold
14:58 Advice for Aspiring CMOs
20:13 Navigating Budget Cuts in Marketing
21:08 Presenting Scenarios and Aligning with Leadership
23:13 The Importance of Networking in Hiring
25:24 Evaluating Candidates for Culture Fit
29:18 Hiring Freelancers vs. Full-Time Employees
31:40 Advice for CEOs on Hiring CMOs
36:38 The Role of AI in Marketing
38:21 The Future of SaaS Marketing Teams
39:27 Conclusion and Podcast Information
The Get is here to drive smart decisions around recruiting and leadership in B2B SaaS marketing. We explore the trends, tribulations, and triumphs of today’s top marketing leaders in B2B SaaS.
This season’s theme is how SaaS marketing organizations are changing — in both seismic and subtle ways.
The Get’s host is Erica Seidel, who runs The Connective Good, an executive search practice with a hyper-focus on recruiting CMOs and VPs of Marketing, especially in B2B SaaS.
If you are looking to hire a CMO or VP of Marketing of the ‘make money’ variety, rather than the ‘make it pretty’ variety, contact Erica at [email protected]. You can also follow Erica on LinkedIn or sign up for her newsletter at TheConnectiveGood.com.
The Get is produced by the team at Simpler Media Productions.
This episode kicks off the 7th season of The Get podcast. Host Erica Seidel introduces this season's theme, which is about how SaaS marketing orgs are changing, in both seismic and subtle ways.
We share a deep dive with guest Claudia Lee. Claudia is a CMO with a unique background in both partner marketing and product marketing. She spoke at a rare moment of reflection while transitioning from a CMO role at CertifID to a new CMO role at Celigo.
You'll hear perspectives and practical advice about:
00:00 Welcome to The Get: Season 7 Kickoff
00:16 Understanding Our Audience
01:17 Introducing Claudia Lee
02:14 Claudia's Marketing Journey
04:52 The Role of Marketing in Business Growth
08:07 Enabling Conversations: A Marketing Philosophy
12:30 The Evolution of SaaS Marketing
15:28 Partner Marketing Insights
22:22 The Impact of AI on Marketing
25:04 Hiring and Developing Marketing Leaders
31:05 Final Thoughts and Farewell
The Get is here to drive smart decisions around recruiting and leadership in B2B SaaS marketing. We explore the trends, tribulations, and triumphs of today’s top marketing leaders in B2B SaaS.
The Get’s host is Erica Seidel, who runs The Connective Good, the executive search practice with a hyper-focus on recruiting CMOs and VPs of Marketing, especially in B2B SaaS.
If you are looking to hire a CMO or VP of Marketing of the ‘make money’ variety, rather than the ‘make it pretty’ variety, contact Erica at [email protected]. You can also follow Erica on LinkedIn or sign up for her newsletter at www.theconnectivegood.com.
The Get is produced by the team at Simpler Media Productions.
In this episode of The Get, we highlight key insights from this season of The Get, which is all about the race to reduce risk in CMO recruiting. Host Erica Seidel and her guests delve into the intricacies of how CEOs and CMOs at B2B SaaS companies can make more-informed decisions before saying yes to each other.
Whether you’re hiring a CMO or looking to step into a new CMO role, you will learn a lot from these takeaways, which range from the practical to the provocative.
We discuss the challenges, fears, and risks that CEOs and investors faces when recruiting a CMO. For instance, they often worry about hiring CMOs who either misalign with the company’s growth stage or struggle to get to the right blend of short-term wins and longer-term impact. We discuss how to mitigate those risks, such as by co-creating the roles and managing expectations about timelines for marketing results.
Then we turn to the candidate side: What risks and red flags do CMO candidates perceive when evaluating CMO roles, and how can candidates reduce these risks? We discuss red flags such as unclear product-market fit, inadequate resources, and misaligned leadership dynamics. We cover several practical strategies for ensuring a good match and getting off to a successful start in a new CMO role.
A huge thank you to the guests this season:
00:00 Introduction to The Get
00:52 Understanding the High Stakes of the CMO Role
03:37 De-risking CMO Recruiting
07:53 Red Flags for CMO Candidates
10:16 Mitigating Risks as a CMO Candidate
18:53 Maximizing Success in a New CMO Role
23:26 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
The Get is here to drive smart decisions around recruiting and leadership in B2B SaaS marketing. We explore the trends, tribulations, and triumphs of today’s top marketing leaders in B2B SaaS.
This season’s theme is The Race to Reduce Risk in CMO Recruiting.
The Get’s host is Erica Seidel, who runs The Connective Good, an executive search practice with a hyper-focus on recruiting CMOs and VPs of Marketing, especially in B2B SaaS.
If you are looking to hire a CMO or VP of Marketing of the ‘make money’ variety - rather than the ‘make it pretty’ variety, contact Erica at [email protected]. You can also follow Erica on LinkedIn or sign up for her newsletter at TheConnectiveGood.com.
The Get is produced by the team at Simpler Media Productions.
On today’s episode, Erica talks with Gary Survis, an Operating Partner with Insight Partners. Erica and Gary discuss how the strongest CMOs limit risk when transitioning into new marketing leadership roles:
00:00 Welcome to The Get: Season Overview
00:47 Introducing Gary Survis: Insights from an Operating Partner
01:37 De-risking the CMO Hiring Process
02:10 Common Pitfalls in Recruiting Marketing Leaders
05:01 Balancing Strategy and Execution in Marketing
11:00 Key Traits of Successful Marketing Leaders
13:19 The Importance of Curiosity in Leadership
17:15 AI in Marketing: What to Look for in a CMO
19:36 Early Steps for a New CMO
21:41 The Role of AI in Organizational Structure
22:34 Setting and Achieving Goals
24:25 Challenges in Coaching CMOs
26:53 Reflections on Past Marketing Roles
28:56 Marketing Under the CRO: A Controversial Trend
31:13 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
The Get is here to drive smart decisions around recruiting and leadership in B2B SaaS marketing. We explore the trends, tribulations, and triumphs of today’s top marketing leaders in B2B SaaS.
This season’s theme is The Race to Reduce Risk in CMO Recruiting.
The Get’s host is Erica Seidel, who runs The Connective Good, an executive search practice with a hyper-focus on recruiting CMOs and VPs of Marketing, especially in B2B SaaS.
If you are looking to hire a CMO or VP of Marketing of the ‘make money’ variety - rather than the ‘make it pretty’ variety, contact Erica at [email protected]. You can also follow Erica on LinkedIn or sign up for her newsletter at TheConnectiveGood.com.
The Get is produced by the team at Simpler Media Productions.
In this episode of The Get, host Erica Seidel discusses the intricacies and challenges of hiring CMOs in B2B SaaS companies. She highlights why the CMO role is particularly tough to fill, the high stakes involved, and the common concerns among CEOs and investors.
Erica is joined by Peter Mahoney, Chief Commercial Officer at GoTo and author of The Next CMO. Peter has been a GM, CMO, CEO, and now at GoTo has recently transitioned from CMO to Chief Commercial Officer. He offers practical advice on organizational structure, fostering CEO-CMO trust, and managing expectations.
You’ll learn about:
00:00 Introduction: The Hardest C-Level Role to Hire
00:41 Welcome to The Get: Reducing Risk in CMO Recruitment
01:14 Meet Peter Mahoney: A Journey from CMO to CCO
01:59 Understanding the Chief Commercial Officer Role
06:20 The Fears and Risks in Hiring a CMO
10:01 The Perfect Fit: Balancing Experience and Potential
13:19 Stage Experience: Scaling Up and Complexity
16:33 Embracing Flexibility and Depth in Marketing Roles
17:10 Navigating Revenue and Complexity in Marketing
17:57 Understanding Marketing Maturity and Budget Constraints
19:15 The Evolving Technical Landscape of Marketing
20:03 Effective Leadership and Strategy Alignment
23:17 Addressing CMO Candidate Concerns
24:41 Key Interview Insights for CMO Candidates
27:34 Advice for Aspiring CMOs
30:01 Career Growth and Risk Management
32:24 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
The Get is here to drive smart decisions around recruiting and leadership in B2B SaaS marketing. We explore the trends, tribulations, and triumphs of today’s top marketing leaders in B2B SaaS.
This season’s theme is The Race to Reduce Risk in CMO Recruiting.
The Get’s host is Erica Seidel, who runs The Connective Good, an executive search practice with a hyper-focus on recruiting CMOs and VPs of Marketing, especially in B2B SaaS.
If you are looking to hire a CMO or VP of Marketing of the ‘make money’ variety - rather than the ‘make it pretty’ variety, contact Erica at [email protected]. You can also follow Erica on LinkedIn or sign up for her newsletter at TheConnectiveGood.com.
The Get is produced by the team at Simpler Media Productions.
In this episode of The Get, host Erica Seidel explores the theme of managing risk in CMO recruitment, specifically cautioning against over-relying on a candidate's experience with a particular scale journey. Erica discusses the potential misconceptions and pitfalls when hiring marketing leaders based on their previous successes in scaling companies.
While such experience can be beneficial, she warns that it doesn't necessarily guarantee the same outcome in different contexts. Listeners are encouraged to delve deeper into how these candidates contributed to their past successes. The episode underscores the importance of aligning expectations and understanding the nuances of each candidate's experience for a better hiring decision.
00:00 Welcome to The Get
00:16 Listener Feedback and Mid-Season Break
00:34 The Risk of Trusting Scale Journeys
01:25 Benefits of Scale Experience
02:26 Potential Pitfalls of Scale Experience
03:40 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
04:02 About The Get and Erica Seidel
The Get is here to drive smart decisions around recruiting and leadership in B2B SaaS marketing. We explore the trends, tribulations, and triumphs of today’s top marketing leaders in B2B SaaS.
This season’s theme is The Race to Reduce Risk in CMO Recruiting.
The Get’s host is Erica Seidel, who runs The Connective Good, an executive search practice with a hyper-focus on recruiting CMOs and VPs of Marketing, especially in B2B SaaS.
If you are looking to hire a CMO or VP of Marketing of the ‘make money’ variety - rather than the ‘make it pretty’ variety, contact Erica at [email protected]. You can also follow Erica on LinkedIn or sign up for her newsletter at TheConnectiveGood.com.
The Get is produced by the team at Simpler Media Productions.
A good leader evolves over time. A CMO’s perspective will shift as they go from first-time CMO to repeat CMO, or to CRO or CEO. As they build experience, they are able to sidestep common pitfalls and react more efficiently to new challenges. At the same time, their perception of risk in a role evolves as they get more exposure. There's an 'arc of caution' that CMOs often go through, from being open-minded early on in their careers, to being able to recognize risky situations once they have more marketing leadership experience, to being more risk-averse and attuned to the 'warts' of a role once they have significantly more experience than other marketing leaders.
In this episode of The Get, host Erica Seidel discusses the complexities of hiring CMOs in B2B SaaS companies. The conversation explores the importance of the right type of marketing leader for different phases of a company's evolution, the vital role of clear communication between CEOs and CMOs, and how CMOs can balance producing value in year 1 with delivering longer-term value beyond year one.
She is joined by Norman Guadagno, a seasoned CMO who has led marketing at Mimecast, Acoustic, and Carbonite, and who shares his experience as a CMO and CEO. Norman illustrates how experience as a marketing leader shapes a CMO's risk awareness and decision-making process.
You'll learn about:
This episode provides valuable insights for both CMOs and CEOs seeking to make informed hiring decisions.
00:00 Introduction to The Get
00:16 The Journey from CMO to CEO
01:14 Introducing Norman Guadagno
02:13 Advice for Aspiring CMOs
04:43 Navigating Company Culture and Change
05:21 The Dynamics of Executive Change
13:51 Balancing Short-Term and Long-Term Goals
22:07 The Role of the CMO in Business Strategy
25:33 Embracing Unique Skills and Roles
26:19 Ego and Humility in Career Progression
27:25 The CEO's Perspective on Hiring a CMO
31:00 Demonstrating Commitment to Marketing
35:25 Navigating Career Trauma and Transparency
40:49 Insights on Interviewing and Hiring
45:51 Final Thoughts and Reflections
The Get is here to drive smart decisions around recruiting and leadership in B2B SaaS marketing. We explore the trends, tribulations, and triumphs of today’s top marketing leaders in B2B SaaS.
This season’s theme is The Race to Reduce Risk in CMO Recruiting.
The Get’s host is Erica Seidel, who runs The Connective Good, an executive search practice with a hyper-focus on recruiting CMOs and VPs of Marketing, especially in B2B SaaS.
If you are looking to hire a CMO or VP of Marketing of the ‘make money’ variety - rather than the ‘make it pretty’ variety, contact Erica at [email protected]. You can also follow Erica on LinkedIn or sign up for her newsletter at TheConnectiveGood.com.
The Get is produced by the team at Simpler Media Productions.
In this episode of The Get, host Erica Seidel explores the crucial role of decision-making in CMO recruiting. Erica shares common traps in decision-making, such as over-trusting someone else's due diligence, over-estimating an appetite for transformation, falling in love with someone's former company without looking at their specific contribution to it, and falling prey to confirmation bias, to name a few. She shares tips for making strong, informed hiring and career decisions.
The episode includes a deep dive with guest Melissa Sargeant, a seasoned CMO, on her experiences and strategies for doing due diligence and reducing risk when hiring and getting hired. This episode is loaded with practical advice for both hiring managers and candidates looking to make better career decisions.
00:00 The Three Pillars of a Successful Career
00:20 Welcome to The Get!
00:44 Understanding Decision-Making in Recruiting
01:48 Common Flaws in Decision-Making
04:44 Introducing Melissa Sargeant: Insights from a Seasoned CMO
05:20 Melissa Sargeant on Reducing Risk in the Recruiting Process
07:11 Maybe the company used to have product market fit, but now it doesn't
9:16 Doing mutual due diligence
12:14 The 2 key questions to ask in an interview to suss out organizational dynamics
19:15 'Your gut is your truth' and other ways to suss out red flags
25:06 Building Trust and Transparency as a New CMO… and avoiding making decisions for 30 days
25:30 'CMO roles are really revenue rescue missions'
33:29 Final Thoughts and Key Takeaways
The Get is here to drive smart decisions around recruiting and leadership in B2B SaaS marketing. We explore the trends, tribulations, and triumphs of today’s top marketing leaders in B2B SaaS.
This season’s theme is The Race to Reduce Risk in CMO Recruiting.
The Get’s host is Erica Seidel, who runs The Connective Good, an executive search practice with a hyper-focus on recruiting CMOs and VPs of Marketing, especially in B2B SaaS.
If you are looking to hire a CMO or VP of Marketing of the ‘make money’ variety - rather than the ‘make it pretty’ variety, contact Erica at [email protected]. You can also follow Erica on LinkedIn or sign up for her newsletter at TheConnectiveGood.com.
The Get is produced by the team at Simpler Media Productions.
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