The Glenn Show

0:00 How Jay’s position on affirmative action changed

12:15 Jay: I can’t see the virtue in affirmative action as it’s practiced

20:07 Why did so many Asian students defend policies that discriminated against Asians?

25:35 The hidden cultural argument in the California Mathematics Framework

32:01 Is the “people of color coalition” coming apart?

34:55 Why so little outrage over the SCOTUS affirmative action decision?

42:26 When students internalize artificial trauma narratives

49:06 America can’t economically decouple itself from China. Will anti-China rhetoric wane?

55:49 What will and won’t change in the wake of Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard

1:05:29 Isn’t there some value to diversity in education?

Recorded July 24, 2023

Links and Readings

Jay’s New Yorker piece, “Why the Champions of Affirmative Action Had to Leave Asian Americans Behind”

Jay’s book, The Loneliest Americans

Jay’s podcast with E. Tammy Kim, Time to Say Goodbye

Jay’s 2019 New York Times Magazine piece, “Where Does Affirmative Action Leave Asian-Americans?”

Jennifer Lee and Min Zhou’s book, The Asian American Achievement Paradox

Natasha Warikoo’s book, Race at the Top: Asian Americans and Whites in Pursuit of the American Dream in Suburban Schools

The California Mathematics Framework

Roland Fryer’s NYT piece, “How to Fix College Admissions Now”

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0:00 Peter’s role in the Supreme Court affirmative action case

8:57 Are legacy admissions affirmative action by another name?

19:17 Why Peter got interested in affirmative action

24:20 Glenn was for affirmative action before he was against it

30:33 Peter: Universities are not honest about admissions

34:20 The brilliance of Roland Fryer

51:17 Campus diversity after affirmative action

Recorded July 22, 2023

Links and Readings

Glenn’s 2020 conversation with Peter

Peter’s paper, “What happens after enrollment? An analysis of the time path of racial differences in GPA and major choice”

Mary Sue Coleman on the steps of the Supreme Court

John’s book, Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black America

Roland Fryer’s paper, “An Empirical Analysis of Racial Differences in Police Use of Force”

Federico Echenique and Roland Fryer’s paper, “A Measure of Segregation Based on Social Interactions”

David Austen-Smith and Roland Fryer’s paper, “The Economics of ‘Acting White’”

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0:00 How Matt first encountered Christopher Hitchens

6:07 Matt’s new book, How Hitchens Can Save the Left: Rediscovering Fearless Liberalism in an Age of Counter-Enlightenment

8:00 Why Matt thinks Cornel West’s Vietnam-Afghanistan analogy is flawed

14:21 What’s worth preserving in the left-liberal tradition?

21:38 Matt: Identity politics is a “toxin”

27:20 Was affirmative action ever necessary?

35:29 Matt: I wish the left would rediscover Hitchens’s universalism

45:04 Hitchens’s “fearless liberalism”

Recorded July 6, 2023

Links and Readings

Matt’s new book, How Hitchens Can Save the Left: Rediscovering Fearless Liberalism in an Age of Counter-Enlightenment

Hitchens’s NYRB review of Douglas Murray’s Bosie: A Biography of Lord Alfred Douglas

Hitchens’s book, Why Orwell Matters

George Orwell’s book, Keep The Aspidistra Flying

Glenn’s recent conversation with Cornel West

Matt’s Quilette essay on John Mearsheimer

Matt’s Quillette essay on Bayard Rustin

Jonathan Eig’s King: A Life

Nathan Glazer’s book, Affirmative Discrimination: Ethnic Inequality and Public Policy

Roland Fryer’s NYT oped, “How to Fix College Admissions Now”

Glenn’s debate with Hitchens

Ta-Nehisi Coates’s Atlantic essay, “The Case for Reparations”

Bayard Rustin’s 1965 Commentary essay, “From Protest to Politics: The Future of the Civil Rights Movement”

Norman Finkelstein’s book, I’ll Burn That Bridge When I Come to It!: Heretical Thoughts on Identity Politics, Cancel Culture, and Academic Freedom

Glenn’s conversation with Norman Finkelstein

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0:00 John: Let’s be honest about what “taking race into account” means in affirmative action

10:09 Glenn: How can anyone argue that race-based affirmative action doesn’t violate the 14th Amendment?

19:29 Why are we so focused on elite institutions?

24:32 John: The University of California works just fine without “racial preferences”

30:28 “You’re pulling the ladder up behind you” is an invalid critique

35:00 John: The fact that racism exists does not justify changing standards

44:04 Why Roland Fryer thinks we should put our money where our mouth is on race and education

51:04 Will the post-Students for Fair Admissions future turn into a “Hardship Olympics”?

Recorded July 8, 2023

Links and Readings

Zachary Bleemer’s paper, “Affirmative Action, Mismatch, and Economic Mobility after California’s Proposition 209”

Zachary Bleemer’s paper, “Affirmative Action and Its Race-Neutral Alternatives”

The Supreme Court opinions in Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard

John’s book, Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black America

John’s NYT piece, “On Race and Academia”

Roland Fryer’s NYT oped, “How to Fix College Admissions Now”

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0:00 The problem with scientific consensus

6:36 Why Jay and his colleagues were branded “fringe epidemiologists”

15:52 Jay: We need to engage with everyone—even those with mistaken beliefs

25:55 Persuading science skeptics

36:04 How do we stop COVID overreach from happening again?

46:38 Jay: Gain-of-function research is impossible to do safely

55:03 Are some ideas too dangerous to test?

59:30 Jay: Fauci’s blunder was so catastrophic that only history can judge him

Recorded June 23, 2023

Links and Readings

Rav Arora and Jay’s newsletter, The Illusion of Consensus

Doris Kearns Goodwin’s book, Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln

The Great Barrington Declaration

Steve Koonin’s book, Unsettled: What Climate Science Asks Us, What It Doesn’t, and Why It Matters

Steve Koonin’s TGS appearance

Tjalling Koopman’s, Three Essays on the State of Economic Science

Emily Oster’s Atlantic piece, “Let’s Declare a Pandemic Amnesty”

The Norfolk Group Document

Glenn’s paper, “Self-Censorship in Public Discourse: A Theory of ‘Political Correctness’ and Related Phenomena”

Richard Feynman demonstrates flaws in Challenger’s O-rings

Roger Shattuck’s book, Forbidden Knowledge: From Prometheus to Pornography

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0:00 Why Cornel is running for president

10:45 How Cornel links American militarism abroad and inequality at home

15:15 Cornel’s pitch to skeptical right-of-center voters

20:30 Is there tension between Cornel’s commitment to stopping climate change and his commitment to helping the working class?

33:50 The moral potential and pitfalls of capitalism

37:34 Might Cornel inadvertently hand the election to the Republicans?

41:44 Cornel: Tim Scott and Clarence Thomas are wrong, but they’re sincere

46:06 Why Cornel thinks the US is partially culpable for the Ukraine War

52:04 Should Palestinians recognize the legitimacy of the State of Israel?

1:00:23 Cornel’s ideas about the US border

Recorded on June 16, 2023

Links and Readings

Cornel’s campaign website

Cornel’s TGS appearance with Teodros Kiros

Glenn and Richard Wolff debate capitalism and socialism

Cornel and Robert George on PBS’s Firing Line

Steve Koonin’s TGS appearance

Ernesto Cortes’s TGS appearance

Benjamin Schwartz and Christopher Layne’s Harper’s essay, “Why Are We in Ukraine?”

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0:00 Identitarianism in the medical profession

5:13 The (exaggerated) psychiatric toll of Covid

7:31 Why were psychiatrists publicly diagnosing Trump?

12:29 Sally’s quest for a kidney donor

23:30 How the kidney donation system works and why it doesn’t

29:30 The ethics of selling a kidney

34:42 Can we put a price on the human body?

43:44 Would paying donors exploit the poor?

48:17 Is paid kidney donation a political possibility?

53:12 The roadblocks facing paid kidney donation

Links and Readings

Sally’s book, P.C., M.D.: How Political Correctness Is Corrupting Medicine

Christina Hoff Sommers and Sally’s book, One Nation Under Therapy: How the Helping Culture is Eroding Self-Reliance

Peter Kramer and Sally’s 2017 NYT op-ed, “Who Decides Whether Trump Is Unfit to Govern?”

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Leon Kass’s book, Life, Liberty, and the Defense of Dignity: The Challenge for Bioethics

Glenn’s conversation with Michael Sandel

Michael Novak’s defense of paid kidney donation in First Things

Sally’s book, When Altruism Isn’t Enough: The Case for Compensating Kidney Donors

Sally’s New York Times Magazine piece, “Desperately Seeking a Kidney”

Sally’s website

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0:00 Why Jonathan’s course “Culture in America” got canceled

9:07 The fragility of liberal arts education

17:24 Managing “CRT zealots” in the classroom

27:44 Is there a future for free inquiry?

35:03 John: Black middle-class students don’t need affirmative action

44:57 Is diversity the problem, or is it elitism?

52:35 The virtues (and virtue signaling) of Randall Kennedy

Recorded June 17, 2023

Links and Readings

Alex Morey and Nadine Strossen’s FIRE article about Jonathan, “Who’s Allowed to Teach ‘Culture in America’?”

Barnard’s Center for Engaged Pedagogy

John’s book, Woke Racism: How a New Religion Has Betrayed Black America

Robin DiAngelo’s book, White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard for White People to Talk about Racism

Cornell Belcher’s book, A Black Man in the White House: Barack Obama and the Triggering of America’s Racial-Aversion Crisis

Richard Rothstein’s Atlantic piece, “The Problem with Wealth-Based Affirmative Action”

John’s guest post, “Racial Preferences May End, but the Fight Will Continue”

Derrick Bell’s book, Faces at the Bottom of the Well: The Permanence of Racism

Glenn’s City Journal essay, “Affirmative Distraction”

Randall Kennedy NYT guest essay, “The Truth Is, Many Americans Just Don’t Want Black People to Get Ahead”

Randall Kennedy’s Atlantic essay, “My Race Problem”

Randall Kennedy’s book, For Discrimination: Race, Affirmative Action, and the Law

Randall Kennedy’s book, Nigger: The Strange Career of a Troublesome Word

John McWhorter and Randall Kennedy on The Glenn Show

John’s 2008 Bloggingheads conversation with Randall Kennedy

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0:00 Bob’s new book, The State of the Black Family: Sixty Years of Tragedies and Failures—and New Initiatives Offering Hope

7:02 Bob: “Liberals have given up” on changing black family dynamics

15:02 Two-parent families are preferable, but single-parent families need help

22:01 Do children help women organize their lives more effectively than men?

29:14 Is community college helping or hurting young black men?

38:38 How Bob thinks police and communities should deter violence

45:42 Work requirements with a human face

56:04 The moderate’s dilemma

Recorded May 4, 2023

Links and Readings

Bob’s new book, The State of the Black Family: Sixty Years of Tragedies and Failures—and New Initiatives Offering Hope

Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s report, The Negro Family: The Case for National Action

Herbert Gutman’s book, The Black Family in Slavery and Freedom, 1750-1925

Lawrence Mead’s book, Beyond Entitlement: The Social Obligations of Citizenship

Lawrence Mead on TGS

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