In episode 26, we start out with a little small talk and laughter, as per usual. The conversation flows into discussing our recent experience with seeing Dr. Jordan Peterson live in Birmingham. 

We talk about sacrifice, what we're supposed to do when we realize we've sacrificed the wrong thing, and how almost everything in life can be both good and bad.  

Carrie discusses some of her recent therapy and the practice of sitting with the discomfort of not being "good enough". 

This is one of my (Carrie's) favorite episode's to date, as it's full of depth and of course, laughter. Thank you for listening! 🤍

In Episode 25, we chat about our recent experience with hanging Christmas lights (did I mention this is a first in all of our 17+ years of marriage?). 

I thought I helped exactly as Lee needed me to. Lee felt differently. 😂 The entire ordeal led to a conversation about what each other values the most in other people -- and showed us why hanging Christmas lights really causes conflict between spouses. 

Join us for Episode 25, and maybe get a few chuckles in along the way. 

P.S. The lights look amazing. Happy wife, happy life...😉

Join us for Episode 24, "Anxiously Attached", which just also happens to be one of my (Carrie's) favorite episodes to date! 

If you struggle with any of the following, you may struggle with anxious attachment:

• fear of abandonment
• jealously, resentment, or anger toward your partner 
• need for reassurance 
• codependency
• preoccupation with your partner
• feeling depressed or sad when the connection is missing
• craving closeness and intimacy all of the time 

We also discuss how those who struggle with anxious attachment can look within themselves (and their childhoods) to heal and move toward creating healthy, secure attachments/relationships. 

Book referenced: "Anxiously Attached" by Jessica Baum, LMHC 

Join us for episode 23, where Lee goes down a rabbit hole about why things don't work well anymore in the world. We also mix in a little humor where we chat about animal scavenger hunts, rolling houses, and Gene who owns the local parts store. 

Join us for episode 22 where we talk about what FEAR really is...

How are monsters under the bed for children comparable to problems in the future for adults?

Why is telling a child, "There's no such thing as a monster under the bed" or "Don't be scared" a problem? 

Why do we subject ourselves to scary movies and telling ghost stories? 

Why is it important to recognize dragons (or fears) in life and what's the answer when it comes to defeating them? 

We talk about all of these things and more in this episode! 

Join us for some laughs about a whole lotta nothing in episode 21. 

We'll be back to our regularly scheduled programming in episode 22, where we talk about our deepest fears.

Join us for episode 20, where we take a dive into our new toy - the cold plunge! 

Lee has been wanting a cold plunge for years. I, Carrie, on the other hand, haven't. 😉 Regardless, I took my first plunge this morning and we'll see where it takes us. 

We briefly chat about some of the benefits of cold water submersion and Lee goes down a rabbit hole as he explains how where his thoughts go just before he's about to step in. 

We hope you'll join us as we have a little fun in episode 20! 

Join us for episode 19, where we talk about what jealousy is and the best way to overcome it (hint: it's not easy). 

We share personal stories of how jealousy has affected our lives in the aftermath of betrayal. 

Join us for Episode 18, where we sit down with Lee's brother, Andrew, and his wife Holly. 

Andrew, Holly, and their kiddos came to stay with us recently and we coerced them to sit down and record a podcast with us. We had to twist their arms - but only slightly. ;)

In episode 18, we chat about everything from horses/barrel racing to whether or not the Virgin Mary actually rode a donkey into Bethlehem (the answer may surprise you). 

Hope you enjoy a little light-hearted and easy to listen to fun. 

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In episode 17, we continue chatting about the steps we took after betrayal. In part one, we spoke of how our faith initially helped us forgive, but time proved that forgiveness wasn't enough. It was enough to initially save our marriage from ending, but it wasn't enough to keep our marriage from ending. 

In Part Two, we dive into some of the rules we set in place to keep us "safe", but once again, we eventually realized that even the rules wouldn't build genuine TRUST. We also talk about implementing alone time (date nights and weekend getaways), without kids or other worldly distractions. 

The truth is, we've continued to evolve and change our strategies. What we've discovered is that it's a journey and our needs are ever-changing. Our goal isn't to have a marriage that just survived betrayal. Our goal is to have a THRIVING marriage, where we are connected emotionally and spiritually - where we become ONE, as it's meant to be. 

Join us for episode 17, "Life After Betrayal" (Part 2). ♥️