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In this conversation, Jori Bogetz and Emma Jones discuss the importance of pursuing one's passions and the idea of following breadcrumbs in life and career decisions. Emma shares her approach of not having a strict plan but being open to opportunities and connections along the way. We talk about research careers and one of the exciting initiatives in Dr Bogetz's recent work, photo-narratives. 

Find Dr Jori Bogetz at https://www.seattlechildrens.org/directory/jori-felice-bogetz/

Learn more about photo-narratives 

Bogetz J, Ayala E, Anderson J, Morris L, Barton KS, Bradford MC, Zhou C, Yi-Frazier J, Watson RS, Rosenberg AR. A photo-narrative intervention protocol for clinicians and parents of children with severe neurological impairment in the PICU. Contemp Clin Trials Commun. 2025 Feb 11;44:101455. doi: 10.1016/j.conctc.2025.101455. PMID: 40034723; PMCID: PMC11872557.

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.conctc.2025.101455

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In this conversation, Emma Jones discusses the importance of setting boundaries as a form of leadership and personal growth. She emphasizes that while boundaries may upset some people, they are essential for self-care and emotional intelligence.

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In this episode of Hauer Hour, Emma sits down with Dr. Lexy Morvant, clinical director of the pediatric palliative care program at Stanford, to talk about what mentorship actually looks like over the arc of a career. Lexy shares how she built her own “personal board of directors” over the last decade, the difference between mentors, sponsors, teachers, and coaches, and why peer-to-peer mentorship might be the most underrated resource we have. She also tells the story of her “palliative pilgrimage” through Ohio and Kentucky—cold emailing leaders in the field, showing up as a stranger, and leaving with lifelong colleagues and friends.

From there, we wade into the honest, messy middle: what it means to be “mid-career,” why the label can feel so unsettling, and how to let go of contingency happiness (“I’ll be happy when…”) in favor of purpose and joy that aren’t tied to promotions, titles, or lines or your CV. They talk about learning to rest as a leadership skill, becoming more intentional about what you say yes to, and why sometimes “being mid” is exactly what sustainability requires.

If you’ve ever thought, “I don’t have the right mentor,” or “Shouldn’t I have it more figured out by now?” this episode is for you.

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Summary

In this episode, Emma Jones and Jenny Linebarger discuss the intersection of palliative care, physician empowerment, and the importance of listening in healthcare. They explore the challenges of burnout, the role of emotional intelligence in leadership, and the significance of building supportive communities within medical training. The conversation emphasizes the need for deep listening skills and the impact of spirituality in patient care, while also addressing the complexities of navigating professional boundaries and group dynamics in high-stress specialties.

Keywords

palliative care, physician empowerment, listening, emotional intelligence, spirituality, medical training, burnout, community, leadership, healthcare

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Palliative Care and Leadership
02:22 Understanding Physician Empowerment
04:25 The Role of Listening in Palliative Care
06:08 Common Humanity in Healthcare
10:44 Navigating Professional Boundaries
16:28 The Fluidity of Roles in Healthcare
22:55 Turf Wars and Collaboration in Healthcare
27:16 Spirituality in Medicine
33:42 The Art of Deep Listening
38:10 The Art of Listening
40:22 Deep Listening: A Skill to Cultivate
42:47 Navigating Vulnerability in Conversations
43:12 The Power of Group Learning
52:45 Building a Curriculum for High-Stress Specialties
57:35 Dreaming of a Retreat for Healing and Growth

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Episode Title: Be Your Own Hype Girl: Leading with Joy and Authenticity

Guest: Dr. Kahliah Johnson
Host: Dr. Emma Jones and Dr Julie Hauer 

Episode Summary

In this vibrant and heartfelt conversation, we talk with Dr. Kahliah Johnson — physician, leader, and radiant advocate for authentic joy — to explore what it truly means to lead from strength, presence, and self-love. Together they unpack the myths of imposter syndrome, the necessity of boundaries, and the radical act of celebrating yourself in spaces that don’t always make that easy.

This episode is an invitation to remember that your joy, your authenticity, and your body are leadership tools, not afterthoughts. Whether you’re leading a team, a household, or your own inner transformation, this conversation will remind you to bring your whole self to the table.

Key Takeaways

• Mentorship matters: We rise faster and stronger when we lift one another.
• Authenticity connects: Real leadership begins when you stop performing and start showing up as yourself.
• Boundaries protect energy: Sustainable leadership requires saying no as often as yes.
• Movement fuels mindset: Physical activity supports emotional and mental resilience.
• Self-care isn’t selfish: Caring for yourself allows you to lead with clarity and compassion.
• Make room for others: True leaders create space for others to shine.
• Be present: Leadership is less about control and more about connection.
• Redefine strength: Growth, not competition, is the real measure of power.
• Emotional stamina counts: Vulnerability and empathy are powerful leadership skills.
• Find joy daily: Celebration is both fuel and medicine for the modern leader.

🎧 Listen If You’re Ready To…

• Overcome imposter syndrome and own your brilliance.
• Bring more joy and authenticity into your leadership.
• Learn how to protect your energy while uplifting others.
• Redefine what strength looks and feels like in your life.

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Summary

The conversation delves into the complexities of managing behavioral issues in patients with neurological impairments, emphasizing the need for differentiation between behavioral dysregulation and other neurological factors. It discusses the importance of systemic support, the pharmacologic toolbox available for treatment, and the unique considerations for end-of-life care in this patient population. The speakers highlight the necessity of a multidisciplinary approach, including behavioral specialists, to address the multifaceted needs of these patients.



Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Context
00:58 Exploring Behavioral Issues in Neurological Patients
00:58 Differentiating Behavioral Dysregulation from Pain
03:09 The Importance of Non-Pharmacologic Approaches
06:28 Addressing Systemic Needs in Pediatric Care
08:20 The Unpredictability of Patient Needs
18:09 End-of-Life Care for Neurologically Impaired Patients

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Ask Me Anything with Julie Hauer (part 1)

Today we delve into the compassionate world of palliative care for children with neurological impairments. Our expert discussant, Dr Julie Hauer, shares innovative strategies and heartwarming stories that illuminate the path to providing comfort and support for these young patients and their families. This episode was source from real world palliative care clinicians.  Join us as we explore the profound impact of palliative care in transforming the journey for children and their loved ones.

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In this episode of The Hauer Hour, Emma interviews Dr. Lindsay Ragsdale, chief medical officer at Kentucky Children's Hospital, discussing her journey in pediatric palliative care and leadership. They explore the importance of empathy, communication, and the challenges of balancing personal and professional life. Lindsay shares insights on overcoming imposter syndrome, the significance of mentorship for women in medicine, and the need for visionary leadership in healthcare. The conversation emphasizes the value of self-reflection, the importance of taking vacations, and the power of community and support in both personal and professional realms.


Takeaways

• Leadership is about communication, teamwork, and vision.
• Imposter syndrome is common, especially in leadership roles.
• Soft skills are crucial for effective leadership in healthcare.
• Empathy can coexist with accountability in leadership.
• Visionary leaders must embrace uncertainty and adaptability.
• Self-care and boundaries are essential to avoid burnout.
• Outsourcing tasks can help maintain balance in life.
• Learning from failure is part of the leadership journey.
• Mentorship is vital for empowering women in medicine.
• Palliative care skills are transferable to leadership roles.

Dr Ragsdale's Book Recommendations 

• The First 90 Days – A tactical guide for navigating leadership transitions with clarity, confidence, and strategic momentum.
• Social Capital in Healthcare – Explores how trust, relationships, and informal networks shape influence and innovation in medical systems.
• Conflict Resilience – Highlights the importance of emotional intelligence and self-awareness in transforming conflict into opportunities for growth and connection.

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In this episode of The Hauer Hour, Emma explores the evolving landscape of clinical expertise and the importance of redefining patient care in a rapidly changing world. She emphasizes the need for clinicians to leverage their wisdom and insights beyond one-on-one interactions, advocating for a shift towards teaching, mentoring, and using technology to scale their impact. The conversation highlights the role of AI in healthcare, the importance of innovation, and the call for clinicians to embrace their visionary potential to create meaningful change in the healthcare system.

Takeaways

• The best use of clinical expertise may not be one-to-one time with patients.
• It's essential to ask if an opportunity is the best use of time and energy.
• The shift from bedside care to broader impact requires a change in mindset.
• AI and technology can help alleviate burdens in clinical care.
• Clinicians should redefine their expertise to include teaching and mentoring.
• Becoming a visionary clinician means innovating within everyday practices.
• Small changes can lead to significant impacts in healthcare.
• Innovation is about doing things differently, not just inventing new solutions.
• The integration of technology should be approached with hope and optimism.
• Every clinician has the potential to share their wisdom and scale their impact.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Clinical Expertise and Impact
05:45 The Role of Technology and AI in Healthcare
12:01 Scaling Impact Through Teaching and Innovation
17:51 The Invitation to Innovate and Share Wisdom

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In this inaugural episode of The Hauer Hour, hosts Emma Jones and Kristen Campbell engage with Dr. Julie Hauer, a pioneer in pediatric palliative care. They explore the concept of 'gentle power' in leadership, emphasizing the importance of compassion, presence, and collaboration in caregiving. Dr. Hauer shares her experiences and insights on the evolution of pediatric care, the significance of valuing relationships, and the emotional challenges faced by caregivers. The conversation highlights the need for a shift in perspective within the medical community, advocating for a more holistic and family-centered approach to care.

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