Feeling burned out but not sure why "self-care" isn't fixing it? In this episode, therapist Ilyse Kennedy, LPC-S, LMFT-S, SEP sits down with Morgan Johnson, LPC and author of 8 Keys to Healing, Managing, and Preventing Burnout, to break down what burnout actually is — and why the usual advice often misses the mark.

Morgan walks through the three hallmarks of burnout (decreased sense of accomplishment, emotional exhaustion, and depersonalization), why helping professionals are especially prone to it, and how it often shows up in the body first — through new migraines, gut issues, vertigo, or chronic tension. She also opens up about her own two experiences with burnout, the resources that helped her recover, and why the fix isn't more self-care but real community and connection. The episode wraps with practical "big breaks and little rests" for people who can't just walk away from the stressor, and why isolation tends to make burnout worse.

Whether you're a therapist, a caregiver, a parent, or just running on empty, this episode offers a more honest — and more useful — way to think about burnout.

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Struggling with loneliness after a breakup or life change? In this solo episode, therapist Ilyse Kennedy explores the difference between loneliness and aloneness — and how learning to embrace being alone can actually become a source of strength.

Ilyse shares her own experience moving into her first home alone, the rituals she built to "romance herself" (dinner reservations for one, tree time, candlelit baths), and what the U.S. Surgeon General's report reveals about the health risks of chronic loneliness. She also breaks down how to know when to lean into alone time versus when to push through discomfort and show up for community.

Whether you're newly single, an introvert recharging, or just trying to get more comfortable in your own company, this episode offers real, practical ways to shift from loneliness to aloneness.

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Lindsay is once again unavail but Ilyse sits down with Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy baddie: Grace Lawrie, LPC- Associate (she/they). Come get your questions about psychotherapy and psychedelics answered in this exciting episode!

Learn more about Grace and their work here!

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The hosts speak with Julia Berg, LPC-Associate and Phoebe Coccetti, LPC-Associate about all things limerence. The term is used to describe fantasizing and obsessing over someone you don't have a relationship with or can never be with. These therapists began a support group to aid daters experiencing limerence. We cover everything from what it says about our attachment systems to Lindsay and Ilyse exploring why they might be prone to such a state.

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Forever hilling. Ilyse's divorce has been final for over a year and Lindsay's will be final any day now. After each being in their relationships for 13 years they have a lot to say on the topic of togetherness, seperation, and aloneness. More conversations, less stigma and shame please.

Some reading recs!

David Whyte: The House of Belonging

Lindsay's Substack essay: Gut health? Intuition Health Baby.

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Lindsay and Ilyse speak with activist and author of "Love in a Fucked Up World," Dean Spade on the healing power of relationships and how to have better ones. Dean shares all he has learned about relationships through his own hilling journey and being in activist spaces. They touch on each of their favorite topics including app culture, grief, attachment, and sexuality. You don't want to miss out on Dean's wisdom and Lindsay's tears.

Find his book at your local independent bookstore and find him on social media at @spade.dean

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As Lindsay is indisposed this week, Ilyse takes to the mic to yap about Attachment Theory. She gives a beginner's rundown of Attachment Theory and how it helps us understand ourselves in relationships. She can't drop a theory without a hot take. She calls out the tiktok dating coaches to bring to light what they're getting wrong iabout the anxious/avoidant dance in early dating and why we need to adjust how we understand attachment in relation to early dating and the digital age.

If you want to learn more about attachment theory, Ilyse recommends:

"The Power of Discord" by Ed Tronick and Claudia M. Gold

"Secure Relating" by Sue Marriott and Ann Kelley

"The Power of Attachment" by Diane Poole Heller

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In this special earth day episode, Lindsay and Ilyse speak with the incredible Andres Sanchez, an Intuitive Plant Healer about the healing powers of nature. Through his gift, Andres connects his clients with "plant allies" to aid in their hilling. He speaks to them about utilizing plants for inner child work, his path to becoming a healer, and why others with healing gifts are particularly drawn to his work. The hosts speak about their own experiences working with Andres, including connecting with some forrest faeries to manage an office flea infestation.

To learn more about Andres' work, you can find him on socials @TheFeistyHealer and subscribe to his beautiful Substack where he shares musings on the healing powers of plants.

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Reading Love In a Fucked Up World, by activist and badass Dean Spade, got our wheels turning around the concepts: "romance myths" and de-centering romantic relationships. Questions and theories have been posed: should/could/would one person, your romantic partner, be your whole world? Is rigidity around that harmful? How harmful? How can we create more sustainable, rich, evolving relationships?

"Today, we turn to one person to provide what an entire village once did," Esther Perel

Lindsay is still sober from dating and Ilyse is getting more and more sober-curious with each passing scam. If we sound annoyingly jaded... we are. We are enraged with the programming and our participation + perpetuation. Taylor Armstrong ENOUGH.

Do we still love love? Of coooourse. We don't identify as anti-romantic relationship but do often lean Girl-Break-Up-With-Him.

In this yap-session, we gush over current lomls: family, chosen family, Mother Earth, and ourselves. Come hill attachment wounds, app culture trauma, and all the bullshit alongside us!

and come back next week for our conversation with Dean Spade!!

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Lindsay and Ilyse talk to therapist and author Amanda White, LPC about the hilling powers of Taylor Swift. They delve in to Amanda's journey with sobriety and how Taylor Swift has been with her along the way. They explore the impact of the Era's Tour and Ilyse shares how Taylor Swift can help weed out toxic men on dating apps.

To learn more about Amanda visit www.therapyforwomen.com or find her on Instagram and TikTok @Therapyforwomen . You can find her book, "Not Drinking Tonight," HERE.

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