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Can you make a plan and still be okay if it completely falls apart? Listen as the Gals explore Letting Go & Letting God.
Happy Holidays. Jingle Bells. Beginning of December!
1.27- So many places that we just don’t know and we just want to know all the time. Basis of human suffering. So we can make a plan and feel safe. 2020? Nope. No idea.
Most of us pretty much know this year that we just don’t know shit. Lockdown. Released to the wild. Able to travel, not able to travel?
2.29- How do you make a plan when there’s nothing to base your plans on? KM. KK is finding so much freedom because she was tied to the structure of her plans. Now just making plans to be happy in the moment, RHRN (haha).
3.25 Story has left the building. We’re all in the same boat, some of us are just going in circles. Row, Row…
4.02- question is, since we’re so aware we don’t know what’s happening, can we make plans at all? Can we let go of them at the same time?
4.49- KK is rowing gracefully down the stream but can she be okay if she hits the Titanic?
5.32- Elusive scenario, KK would have been paralyzed by the unknowing 10 years ago. Even 5 years ago, would have been iffy.
6.19. Now, become more relaxed in it all. Put too much pressure on the perfect plan. Mr. RHRN says he’ll be going to Bali before Christmas, but it’s always “this month” that he’s going. Plans for biz, life, love, kinda cool to make plans.
7.39- KM would really want her family from England here for the holidays.
8.41- Krishnamurti- sitting on a bench. “I don’t mind what happens.” In the midst of packing for a trip some years back. You know the kind of family trip…
9.08- Freedom in the “so what.” Revelation moment- KM changed. Stopped being a crazy maniac attached to how the family trip should have happened.
10.13- KK- minded in the moment about RHRN leaving before holidays. Made it mean something else. 10.41- Got rid of the story, take meaning off and ask, How is this going to serve me?
11.42 Letting go of our small ego plan and letting the Universe show up. Doesn’t always mean it will work out the way we think. 1
2.27- Wouldn’t have found the release if she gripped onto the small ego plan- the anniversary, holidays, etc.
13.18- Can create whatever you want on any day and make it special, it’s the intention behind it. 1
4.41- KK “Old Me” would have tried to control, control, control it. Putting the meaning on the holiday dates was just another way of setting herself up for disaster.
16.41- Deep, beautiful connections in simplicity. Look at how we think we know what’s good for us and look and see what happens.
17.25- Dirty energy vs clean energy. Wedding- not just an opportunity to get laid. Okay to be disappointed, we’re human. Okay to have been attached. Hard to learn to be unattached to the outcome. Perfect time for KK to have time with kids without Mr. RHRN. KK pattern is to contract, withholding. 3 years ago she probably wouldn’t have recovered, now just a couple days.
20.- ORiginally felt as if she had to give up something in order for her to get what she needed. Love is patient, not possessive. Devotion to wanting another person to be happy. Hard when we are in our ego/survival pattern, lose our ability to be flexible.
21.02- 2020 be clear in what you want to be doing.
21.16- Spirit’s in charge of the how. When you pay attention to the flow of love, life organizes around this.
21.48- “bloated nothingness” out of the way and let our Spirit lead, we’ll get much more of what we want.
22.30- taking a deep look at how she’s making decisions in all these different structures in her life. When those structures started crumbling, sigh of relief, permission to make decisions only for what she deeply, deeply desired. Self-honoring.
23.43-Present to what we’re choosing- must be here for ourselves, martyr complex. Need to love ourselves and our neighbors. Make sure your cup is full, bring the same love out to someone else.
24.44- Only way is to be in presence.
25.31- more whole, more fully-embodied.
26.37 You know it was the best thing because that’s what happened. Only way the Universe works is that what happens is what is meant to happen.
27.48- trying to make plans and waiting for all these knowings, which were uncertain at best. Over the last month, deprogramming of her mind for the judgments of those decisions. So that she could make decisions not from the old stories/patterns, was able to get ahead of the decisions. Made steps she wanted.
29.12- God’s plan unfolds from there.
29.35- Sufi prayer “in shala” /God-willing everything was encased in this. Even “see you tomorrow.”
30.26- Make plans you need to make “in shala.” Whatever it is, it will be okay.
31.10- who wants that kind of fucking responsibility!
31.32- God willing! Forcing our will to make things work. As if we know the grand plan.
32.41- So much more fun to be light, in the flow, and surrender to God’s plan. Instead of have to, have to, have to.
33.51- Instead of looking at things as failures or mistakes or shouldas. Even the things that aren’t working out are still working out and then have fun!
34.16 Make this plan and hold on loosely, don’t grab a hold and force it into being. If it doesn’t want to come in, let go. Sometimes it’s ripped out of our hands.
34.43- Number one way to not get what you want in life, truly/deeply want, is to hold on to what you think you should have as hard as you can until it almost kills you.
35.56- Get creative, wonder, ask others for insight. Such a place of play and joy in not having to own everything you think you have to own.
36.51- Make a fun plan. Set your intention to bring passion, creativity into your life. Make the plan with God. Joy, love, beauty, hope, not without challenges but still full of those things.
38.01- What if you’re outside of the ability to make a choice? Viktor Frankl- Jewish man in a concentration camp- made a choice, no matter where he was to participate with love, the highest level of who he could be and how it would affect his experience. Survived it as someone who brought value and care. “Man’s Search for Meaning.”
40.11- Sometimes you get stuck in a situation you don’t want to be in, so how do you sit with that. Things always pass.
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Have you lost that lovin’ feeling? Listen as the Gals explore how to bring it back!
Oh, oh that lovin’ feeling! Juices flowing! Can’t wait!
Hot little topic today! 1:21- IN Love relationship and it’s juicy deliciousness vs I Love you, you’re my best friend, and I love hanging out with you. When the romance and deliciousness can get lost.
2:31. It’s gone! Where’d it go? The lie is you can’t get it back, once it’s gone, it’s gone.
Diff between being in Love and loving someone. In love, we have to be close, do things with them, and touch them.
3.07 KK in a juicy phase right now.
3.24. Old thinking- juiciness only lasts for a short while and then all the juice goes out. 3.50-Nursery Rhyme- KK and RHRN sitting in a tree.
4.08 You’ve got to have the loving feeling to stay in love!
4.20 Sometimes it does happen that you lose it, grab it back, you don’t have to go. 4.41 KK and RHRN a moment of looking at you, “I hate you.”
5.06- Past; wouldn’t know why she was having that reaction. Game over. Projecting and blaming leading to less love.
5.47- How do you go from being in love one day to wanting to punch him in the face the next day.
6.01- Realized she had gone silent on something, some behavior, some pattern. More she wasn’t speaking up, blame started to creep in from Mr. RHRN.
7.38- On one side RHRN is judging her for not enforcing “requests” to kids and on the flip side, RHRN is benefitting from her not saying anything when he doesn’t follow through on his actions.
7.54- Let’s pick it apart. Where is the breakdown? It’s in the “In Love.”
8.15- Second judgement comes into the frame, almost always kills “In Loving.” KK, “My pussy dries up.”
8.58- Minute he stepped into judging her, she felt like respect waned and he wasn’t in the “In Love” space.
9.10- Defense swings back to retaliate. Fuck it.
9.30- Hallmarks of being in love: generosity, abundance, creativity, possibility, laughter, joy, surrendered, cool, easy, flexible. Easy & Flexible are the fun part. Moment one goes away, it all goes away. We step out of love.
10.24- Don’t ever say, “are you on your period?” Goes downhill when KK behavior towards him changed. 11.08- When you’re in love, the common denominator is acceptance. 1
1.33 Love is patient, kind, and spacious. Even if it’s you judging yourself. 1
2.38- Middle ground of how to love herself enough by not getting taken advantage of AND still feel patient and kind. Difference between judgement and reflecting something so that you can live a better life.
14.17- It’s the little things that erode the “In Love.”
14.38- Alison Armstrong, “I want to be in love with everyone in my life, everyday.” In Love is a practice!
15.03- Minute we trigger each other, boom! We’re off to the races!
15.29- Ask how you’ve stepped out of your loving, how are you not communicating, why did I do that? Feels hard but it’s simple, really.
16.57- Creating really good agreements with each other creates/sustains the “In Loving.”
17.46- starts when KK begins to feel like she’s being taken advantage of: side glares, foot stomping, chuffing and RHRN feels like a kid who’s being punished.
18.17- way for her to show how she’s upset rather than making a loving request. In the past it’s been scary to make the request, so resorts to behavior. Resentment builds when they don’t respond the way she wants, even though she didn’t communicate it.
19.39- Ron Hulnick (USM)- If you ever want to fall out of Heaven, just have a judgmental thought about anything. Pulls you into your own story, not communication.
20.20- Sometimes we need to renegotiate our agreements.
21.01 aRe you willing to believe your partner is NOT a malevolent force in your life, setting out to piss you off or upset you? See them as innocent, even if it doesn’t make sense to you. 25.09- It’s important how fast you “fix” it. If you leave hurt feelings out there for too long, they start to fester and grow into the next one, and the next one.
26.13- What if we stopped telling ourselves the story that “In Love” can be broken. We resign to that’s what happens.
26.54 Enough insurrection moves that haven’t been cleaned up and not enough erection moves. 27.19- In Love equals a really nice sexual relationship that works for you, whether it’s loving, wild, tantric...Happens naturally if you’re in love.
28.02- we allow the little things in life to take over and build up instead of just saying the thing so that you can get back to the loving.
29.04- Eradicate the tension, has to start with You changing your behavior so that it can be received differently.
28.29- Risking your relationship for truth.
29.52- We’re all just these weirdly specific individuals who all like things the way we like them. 30.17- energy with which we tell our person things, doesn’t have to be big, heavy dark agreements. Where’s the levity, the humor? Can still have fun.
31.25- Who needs a spanking? 31.46- have to ask each other to stick to the agreements, builds the trust.
32.02- Early stages we give away our trust. If broken over and over, deteriorates the In Love. 32.42- Women get fluid, delicious when feeling safe. But if trust isn't’ there, then there’s a problem. Agreements need to be clear.
33.59 KK trying to find a place of safety and trust with RHRN.
34.39- Needs have to be met, but not all of them. A lot of people talk about one of the best ways to create the best partnership is to commit to making your partner the number one priority in your life & vice versa. Takes you out of ego, out of me, me, me. 35.43- We’re spiritual, you guys know it, we’re not hiding it. New Testament- “Love thy neighbor, as thyself.” All it means is that you get your needs met together.
36.47- have you noticed how smooth the conversations are when you’re In Love? 37.11 KK- Can I love him anyways? Are the little things worth destroying the deliciousness? These issues run deep, we make up the stories which drive our emotions.
s38.02- Add the story, stir it up, whaddya get?
38.23- It’s possible to stay In Love, possibly forever, if you’re willing to try out some of the strategies which have kept the Two Gals In Love? Deep commitment to ownership, owning your shit, forgiving it, and remaining in the Love. Reason above all else to do it? Hot sex? Because your life will flourish and so will everyone’s life around you. You got the power to stop being a Bitch, Baby, (insert whatever judgmental words you like).
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Are your stories about your family really true? Listen as the Gals expose the roots of the Family Tree.
Earth shaking, earth moving under my feet...roots of trees starting to rumble from underneath and get really exposed.
1.22- Uncertainty in the world, go searching for safety back to our roots. Is this safe, will we be ok? KK isn’t sure her foundation is the safety net, even though she wanted it to be, just not the thing she thought it was.
2.14 Turn ourselves into pretzels to be safe. Whole 1st chakra- safety in tribe- food, safety, nurturing, but does it last?
3.17- piggybacking off last week’s episode on KK moving out of the country. Prob triggering their desire for her to be safe.
4.03 but KK didn’t hear it from her dad that way until she gave it time.
4.36- KK looking at family lineage, belief systems and questioning them and in the final stage of surrender and release of needing them to be her safety.
5.14- old story was Dad abandoned her, Mom was her Queen of safety.
6.04- Estranged through college and after, on this Mother Daughter journey of understanding, healing (epiphany- Im alone in the world, separation from blood family, and grieving that and feeling some relief in the release).
7.18 Overidentified w/ Mom but couldn’t be like her at her Dad’s.
8.09- At 30 just decided to stop trying to engage everyone, wasting time & energy.
8.32- realized recently that her Dad has been the one constant contact- whole story of her life is blown out of the water.
9.56- opened up space to where she doesn’t feel responsible to either Mom or Dad.
11.07- recent realization she had more familial ties on Dad’s side. Great Aunt made a comment about how KK is like her Great Grandmother. Grandma passed two days ago, not close but had a deep heart connection.
12.11- felt lost opportunity to get to know someone who she could have a real world connection w/ not felt like black sheep.
12.49- KM fairly frictionous relationship w/ her dad. Only in the last few years has she been able to admit she’s like him.
13.38- interesting to integrate the “other” parent.
14.45- KK Dad’s Grandma jumped a train to VA, while pregnant to escape abusive husband, landed in Kansas… considered a wild woman. Grandmother’s mom traveled to foreign countries by herself in the mid 1900’s.
15.07- just finding out the roots of the trees.
16.28- how hard it is to claim a part of ourselves when we don’t know where it’s coming from- you’re off, peculiar, different from the immediate birth family.
18.22- It is who (KK) is, always has been but always questioned bc she didn’t know it was in her lineage.
19.33- A-ha moment- Dad’s side- stories of men are passed down and celebrated, despite having wild women in their tree.
20.27- Grandfather (the abusive one) flew with Charles Lindberg and was shooting up the town below, “shot it up from the ground, shot it up from the sky.” image of this legendary man.
21.14- Do you know your lineage? Do you know who your gma ggma were? Do you know what they were involved in, were they politically active? Do you know if they were like you. Are the stories you think you know true and how have they affected your decision making and choices in life?
22.06- Can embrace the wild side. Honoring yourself and your truth.
22.43- what have you always known about yourself to be true but never let yourself have? Go digging to the bottom to find it.
23.23- KK has judged herself through Maternal lens, lifestyle didn’t fit in with hers. Now she knows it will be okay. Doesn’t have to let it change what she does. Even at this age she’s still worried about disappointing others.
24.55- KK’s gonna light it up from the ground, and light it up from the sky.
25.17- stories from family that we don’t belong but then we find out more information and it makes sense.
25.36- we create evidence to support our stories.
26.22- Stories are a big part of what we ruin our life over- hold a grudge, feels good to punish them.
29.06- GREAT PLace to do forgiveness work around parents, be completely free.
29.56- write your own story. Not allowing your lineage to limit us. Wild=negative connotation, disappointment, deemed bad.
31.16- Let’s find out who’s in our past, where can you free yourself up from a story you’ve made up about who you are in your family. Not in your lineage, maybe in a past life. Whatever we can do to support living as ourselves
31.49- Incredible timing since KK was craving this boost from her family.
32.37- KK’s new experiences have been based in ancestry, letting those stories support her. Accordion of time and space continuum- what is happening in which moment? Touching into an eternity of streak of gold in life that can carry her.
34.12- KK has hillbillies shooting up towns and KM’s has kings and queens, of course…
34.59- this is where shamanism is fun, can take you back into your lineage in a way that you wouldn’t normally go & flood you with wild stories of your life.
35.24- After last week’s episode, a friend reached out to her- how great a mom she is, told her story of her mom; she’s responsible for her own happiness. Appreciate feedback from listeners and share their stories.
36.52- Beauty of living in the spiritual context of life: KK asked for support she needed last week and it showed up
37.57- doesn’t matter who it is or what it looks like.
38.19- don’t have to ask in the perfect way, say the perfect prayer, you are always supported. Point of spiritual life is a context you live in and you are supported just because.
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In episode 32, The gals discuss the disappearance of feminine energy in many partnerships and how divorce rates have soared to nearly 70%. The Gals are stepping out on a limb here and boldly suggesting that the divorce rate is due to the absence of the feminine.
Katherine suggests that because everyone is working (even stay at home mom’s have long lists of work to do), no one is holding the feminine energy in partnership anymore. Due to that, relationships have become a battle for resources, (time and money) and power between two masculine energies. While we fight, who is holding the spacious, energetic, patient and kind power of the feminine?
For those who are in the more masculine role in a working or stay at home arrangement, wouldn’t it be nice to come home from work welcomed by a joyful, dancing naked in the kitchen type of person rather than the cranky, bitch-ass, sweats wearing, mope? As both partners learn to honor the self-care needs and practices of the feminine, everyone can start living the life they’ve dreamed of! This is a good thing, right? So why does Krista joke that “We are all fucked?” Listen and find out.
Does the absence of the feminine sound like a joke or, as the gals ask, is it possibly THE First World Problem we are facing today?
As usual, Katherine and Krista are looking for the ultimate holy fuck! Listen as they dive into the mystery of “Where is the Invisible Feminine?” and wonder where the entry point is. The Gals decide not to beat around the bush… but perhaps, truer to themselves in their feminine energy, tickling around the bush is where this energy lies…
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Who you lettin’ swipe your happy? Listen as the gals flirt around with this one!
Where does our Happy come from? Get silly.
KK- when everyone loves me, validates me, tells me I’m a good girl...but for a fleeting second and it needs to be said again & again. 1.48 It’s a trap in the crap.
2.03 Moments of happiness and people want to swipe it, don’t want you to be happy. 2.33 Often happy people piss people off. 2.57. Shh. it’s a secret with Mr. Delicious, don’t tell him! KM woke up one morning chirpy but Mr. Delicious woke up not that way.
4.20- People tune out, should tune in. Does other people’s comments on your happiness make you unhappy? 4.48 People don’t believe it. Have to be processing all the time. As SP, we’re telling you, you can choose happiness.
5.17- Actually Joy, bubbling up with an infectious feeling of loving your life. It’s a choice. 5.55 So many excuses to NOT be happy right now but we don’t have to feel heavy. 6.46 Who’s feeling the love these days? Not just Love of the Heart- Abundance, Joy, Passion, Gratitude. 8.06- KK has been looking back at family upbringing and realized the idea of Happiness isn’t a prevalent one. She feels pulled back from Happy when she gets close to it. 8.55 People around her aren’t necessarily on board. 9.16- Little cracks, seeping in, starts to believe others. 9.43- Are we allowed to NOT sacrifice our lives and go for what we want? Are we allowed to be happy when others aren’t?
10.34- wanting support in happiness from ex, family, kids and if she had all that there would be a big healing. 12.23- not that it’s needed, KK just wants it. She’s still going to show up how she shows up, in joy.
13.04 Can we be happy in spite of all the things. Do you compartmentalize your happy?
14- How do you flirt with it, work with it? First thought- shut them out, cut them out. As a way of protecting the Dream. 15.36 Something so incredibly precious and beautiful in experiencing shared joy. 16.03- Lift your vision- you already have a circle of guides/angels, spiritual beings who are always on your team. 16.43- Let her earth family have their own experience. 17.29- we learn alot from the people who don’t support us.
18.20- Let’s just talk about the decision KK needs to make! Feeling called to move to Bali, exciting opportunities, Mr. RHRN will be there, amazing community. 19.10- Massive life change could happen, led by heart & joy, could be unlike any other thing she’s ever done in her life but was getting pushback, pullback. Kids are great & supportive.
21.04 How do we stay in our loving and happy place when the shit is hitting the fan and splattering the walls. Can we accept who they are while we’re accepting where they are?
22.55 choices come from fear or from love. Challenge KM all day long, she doesn’t care.
25.14 KM to KK what a huge opportunity for learning you’ve gifted yourself!
26.28- there’s a middle ground- not about hiding our secrets but about holding something and nurturing it til we’re secure enough inside us and with our community.
27.27- “Don’t harsh my mellow” KM saying from the 70s. 28.43- can we let go of them from a place of seeing them as whole, seeing them as purely accepting who they are in their truth and it doesn’t have to change anything for you. then go out and find people who support us.
29.11- Mr. RHRN is always supporting her and tells her to go for it. 31.23- Well behaved women rarely make history or never make history. KK moving is somehow deemed as she’s not behaving. 32.40- safer when we follow the rules. But not interested in following the rules, interested in being happy. `34.06- cannot let other people define our happiness. What blows our skirt up? What makes us feel like “wow, what was that” and then going for it.
37.23 when we do something to appease someone with an agenda, we destroy our happiness. How often have we catered to someone else, made sacrifices at the expense of our own happiness? 38.44 We never really know what’s at play, what Spirit has in store, just have to follow the thread of happiness. Sometimes you have to cut the thread if others aren’t on it with you. 39.59 Flip side- how are we trying to swipe someone else’s happy? Pull someone down, keep someone small, not support somebody because they’re afraid of the outcome.
40.53- David Whyte- the world was made to be free in. 41.20- we scare other people and it’s okay. We can acknowledge others’ fears and still do what we were going to do. 42.01- all that matters is how committed we are to our own happiness. 42.33 2 ways to look at the decision- destroy relationship with everyone around KK or it’s going to make it even more rich.
43.56- Classic 1st chakra stuff- presented w/ beliefs systems of history/past/heredity. Most elevated way to be in your 1st chakra is to chose the ones that work and chose the ones that don’t. Move on and love everyone in the process.
45.03- KK doesn’t have the answers, turns to Spirit everyday to be aligned.
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Are you tired of the merry-go-round of working on your relationship? Listen as the Two Gals explore when you decide to Get Off!
.51- KK has two words for us. What are they? Surprise Topic Episode. KM’s down for it, even if she squirmed in her pants. What kind of a surprise?
1.32- working vs. healing in your relationship or KM’s version working on your relationship vs. healing in your partnership. But that’s more than two words. KM is trying to Get Off… the MGR. (Turn me right round baby, right round)
2.34 vs. puts the idea of againstness, not really what they’re going for as spiritual psychologists. Building on the work in the relationship so they can heal. 3.08- anyone out there goes around the MGR of the same issues again and again. Dizziness, puking, churns up that 3rd Chakra. KK-last 2 relationships were really WORK. But she put her head down, bc they’re here teachers, etc. What kind of work was she really doing? What playground equipment was she working with? Usually likes stick ball but not while she’s on the MGR. Visuals galore!
5.07- MGR of working on your relationship is nothing gets resolved. 5.32. Idea is to Get Off the ‘work” and into the healing, comes from adding in the ability to widen the scope of possibilities.
6.23- exhaustion of being a good person, working on the relationship, not wanting to give up/get rid of, taking responsibility. It’s endless. 6.51- flying off (affair) and getting off (spiritual experience). 7.24- trying hard to keep it all together, continue to work, give up OR get off by taking steps.
How many times do the Two Gals get off in this episode?
8.37- Get off by deciding to do something different. Circling the toilet bowl or flushing problems down the toilet, just brings those issues into your next relationship because we're still on the MGR.
9.15- what happens when you feel as if you’ve done the spiritual “work” and applied healing to it? Answer? KM You have to get off together! 9.52- KK did the work for her own healing and Spirit said to step away.
10.33 When we go from the MGR to accessing spiritual healing, everything changes. We can relate to each other. We drop our ego defenses. 11.13- KM feels like she and Mr. Delicious Got Off together a lot but then they’d get back on, sometimes solo.
11.53- MGR meaning when you’re trying to blame your partner and instead begin looking at our part, our history, trying to own it, work through your own stuff. 12.24- getting shoved off/jumping off the MGR hurts, it’s painful. But if you make the choice, you have the whole playground at your fingertips.
13.04- Mr. D & KM noticed he had a flight pattern, to jump off and leave the playground. Leaving KM to go round and round and up and down on her own. KM would eventually get off and do her own work and they’d come back to center. 14.03- spiritual approach, stepping beyond psych solution of bargaining or solving the problem, brought them to love and remembrance, true release. Psychological approach- sort of like beating each other up because we go back to the patterns, thinking it’s the other, making it harder to come back together. 15.49- Letting trauma run the show, the system looks at us as broken. Psychologically, it’s ego.
16.34- ACIM- concept of not looking at the problem, that’s ego. Playing to our small self- wounded. What if we stopped looking for the wounds? What if we started looking for the best/highest self. Instead we look at issues from a higher plane of love.
19.13- Spiritual approach starts with, “I know the person sitting in front of me has everything they need to solve this problem, they’re whole and they have their own spiritual connection that is whole. I don’t have to fix anything.” This is the playground of healing.
19.59- are we programmed to be bored with that approach? The falsehood of the trauma drama of the ego creates passion, excitement.
21.03- Hold the phone, there’s something better! Money back guarantee- Healing from the spiritual realm is way more satisfying, sexier, provocative, possible, and miraculous.
22.40- MGR back and forth of ego drama. Now, KK is making plans for the future. Not spending hours talking about drama.
24.02- KM book Power Coupling- couples bring ego power to the convo, can be repulsive/repelling. What we want to look at is how to be together in communion by sourcing Spirit.
25.04- only reality in Fear is anxiety, depression, overwhelm, protection, safety, survival, survival. Change the context from Ego-Fear-Survival to Love. Don’t look at the surface, we see the loving essence/Divinity. Look past what you’re looking at with your ego. 26.26- tapping into 6th chakra- intuition, third eye. Spiritual healing transforms relationship to partnership. Heal wounds together.
29.14- What out- we’re going Deeper, Deeper. Into the Spiritual. Problems aren’t created in our lifetime- in our lineage, ancestry, dna. In our brain. Not going to get away from reactions but it’s how we come to them.
32.11- the stories we create are around our wounds, it’s our stuff that we go into relationships with. It’s not the other’s story. 32.42- what if your partner doesn’t have that spiritual ability/connection. Mr. RHRN doesn’t talk in this kind of lingo. So if your partner isn’t “spiritual” you can still do the healing work. 33.41- The essence you bring will be healing, you show up and hold the deep container, allowing your partner to show up the same way. Even if your partner slips out of it, they can slide back in.
34.18- KM: we all have spiritual partners, we just don’t always know we’re being consciously spiritual. We are all born with this innate ability. 34.52- open a space to look at your partner with innocence & vulnerability, being one and together.
36.37- when we tap into this, we can soften into the sweetness of someone’s divine essence.
40.15- If someone’s “working” on their relationship, is it a MUST that they move it into the healing? Do they have to go into the healing work? OR is it okay to draw the boundary and I’m done with this relationship? Yes, both are okay when it’s the best protection for you. For KK, that was Rico Suave. Just wasn’t safe to go to the next healing level.
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Should you give a HF about your business? Listen as the Gals explore bringing God to work.
Keepin it calm (or are they), not earth shaking, but how about some bed shaking with Mr. Delicious?
1.33- amazing exp of bringing God/Spirit/prayer to work with us. “Bring God to Work Day!” Confident about bringing God to our relationships but not really inc our spiritual life into our work, to get fabulous results.
2.25- All about Love & sex but what about business? Both gals upleveling business right now and need new capacity there.
3.17- KK had to take a look at what was staring her down. For her launch, Draw upon skills, faith, deep connection w/ God to get through challenging moments in biz. KM - for her it’s how she’s interacting w/ people in biz, spiritual principles have to be impeccable. Ego cannot take a front seat. Draw on compassion and kindness.
4.50- CSO- Chief Spiritual Officer (integrity & culture of the company is dependent on KM) in a new company that’s developing. CAme to KM in meditation, just like HFP did, 5 years ago. Now she has the momentum and decided to go for it!
5.56- Rev. M Beckwith- “You have to grow into something, or else you’d already have it.”
6.22- 3-4 months she’s been working on a project and really had to draw on faith, presence & deepest aspects of her highest self into her so that she can hold space for the company as CSO. Taking what she does in client sessions but bringing it into the culture of the company.
7.03- KK did a talk at a chamber of commerce; saged the room, invoked Spirit & called in the light, taking them on a powerful business journey w/ Spirit. Everyone really dropped into it. Really powerful experience. Walking into this old school business environment, “Father, Mother, God…” 8.31- Just by bringing God into the environment changed the entire meeting, people reacted differently with one another, like a portal opened up. 8.44- KM does similar things as CSO. Have to remind ourselves that there is no such thing as time and space, we’re all in the same room together (even if on a Zoom/web call).
9.43- essentially in a boardroom to call in calming space, looks for fear in the room, draws on infinite tendrils of her highest self- manage others egos, sometimes her own, other’s fear.
10.46- Madame Equanimity- gets to look at what’s going on underneath. Kinda like pulling out the weeds to keep the vision of the company clear.
11.50- working with people in a way that allows them to work through their patterns & habits in a way that supports their growth.
12.51- Actually much easier than the adages: “Push through your fear! Smash through it! Do it anyway! Overcome…” They just want to be of service in their lives/biz. 13.13- when you call in this essence, it connects you to any being/anyone else in that same mind frame, something more than yourself.
14.10- KK power for her recent launch came from her tools, a clean container (limiting self beliefs, hurts, patterns, habits), which her mentor said is really special. Had tools to move through the crunchy bits & crash through her glass ceiling. 15.24-These tools are so powerful in a biz sense, and can change the culture of biz.
16.33- If the biz owner has an abundant mindset, how would that impact bonuses, income, growth. How would it look if a biz owner worked through blocks around money?
17.11- KM holds space to help staff see their power, where they are getting slowed down, and what works one week may not work the next. Great practice in non-attachment. 17.40- Actually has no control- mirroring what the two gals have been working on in their partnerships. Next Level… Business 18.25- Same patterns in your relationships will follow you into the boardroom. Pulling off layers, exposing wounds,
Expansive compassion in a business setting now that they’ve matured and grown into the ability to hold for themselves, partnerships, where they’re manipulating, to just notice their reactions.
20.07- Breathe, wait, listen for heart rate to slow, before reacting. Everyone needs these tools if they’re wanting to respond favorably in their workspace. 21.32- what we need as humans to heal is to be vulnerable, which is the opposite of what we’ve learned to bring into a business.
21.56- Skills we can practice but until we do the deep spiritual work, you won’t get the full benefit. 22.19- find someone who can help you see where the block is, what scares you, what are your patterns.
23.03- Beauty of healing work is a deep settling into our common beingness as humans- healing works on both sides. The person in the boardroom was healed but KM feels like she also did too.
24.30- Race for the victim position- as Katie Hendricks calls it. 24.40-KK- feels like KM is being very humble and not acknowledging her own growth and work over the last 15 years which was the catalyst to open the healing portal. Nothing more satisfying than loving someone in a way that they feel cared for and seen. 25.20- in a biz setting, trial by fire bc of what we think we “should” be like in business. 25.37- High jump metaphor-victorious feeling of sailing over the top- higher bar than KM has ever been to and healing is THAT much deeper. Spirit said “Go Deeper.”
26.55- KK: Can we all be brave enough to bring Love into biz? Marianne Williamson- mentor of KM’s; should we use the word “God?” Always playing with it, not up to playing small. TCIM spiritual basis/book/bible- “it’s all about what you want to talk about & the environment you’re in. just be sure you’re doing it for yourself because God has no ego about what name you call it.” Not going to have fire & brimstone rain down on you or have God smite you, still part of her brain in paradigm that God is a being in heaven. Blasphemy!
31.36- KK- noticed clients' use of Spirit/God/Universe is indicative of where one is on their journey, a different level of opening up to acceptance. KM- “God” is the most personal conversation, those middle of the night moments- the dark night of the ego, Robert Holden. Has a warmth about it for her, a different level of care/nurturing.
34.48- KM; being a Minister and navigating feelings around spirituality, what word to use (Goddess/She/It/Spirit/Universe…) is what set her up to be a CSO. 35.14- Most amazing thing about bringing God to work is the freedom to know who you are and that every other person is of that same essence. Every moment is created by God, so it can’t be wrong. 36.19- KK- it’s not my creation, it’s God’s creation. Things come through us, when we are in the presence of God, and it’s full of love. 37.51- KK (in writing her poetry book) realized what happens when we truly let God work through us, not that “I” created it. 38.10- we have within us a microcosm of the God/Universe/Spirit. You are not the wave, you are the ocean. Letting go of the physical body, can tap into the energy of people around you. 39.34- Realization that we are not in control, releases the fear and anxiety of controlling the “right” thing. Now imagine that brought into your business.
40.20- Burnout- can happen at any age- responsibility that we need to do everything, give more than we have to give, martyr, please, give, give, eventually you get something back. Instead of beautiful dance of divine masculine/feminine which never depletes us.
41.22- M. Williamson- Don’t forget that time responds to you. If you’re calling your days “busy” or “overwhelmed” take charge, bless your day, ask for openness and space.
45.02- what does it really mean to bring God to work? Before you get there, you prepare- pray/meditate, you become the ocean, you walk in as that beingness, and take it from that place and everything you do has magical/miraculous quality. Consistently. Inspiring yourself. Can sound woo-woo but asking for the divine intelligence to come out (of my thighs in the bedroom or the boardroom).
47.47- if you find you’re not capable of doing this on your own, the Two Gals are here in support of your journey. Reach out.
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Codependent or Intimate?
Listen and Find out!
1:11 Katherine’s coach says she is doing really well. Katherine’s breakdown led to she and Mr Delicous … looking pretty “endy” … and relationship stuff… is Sprit pressing Katherine down the tube?
2:15: Awareness of not taking care of herself. Too open to the experience of being abandoned… Krista pushes Katherine to be specific…
2:57: something happens…and one of us (possibly Mr. Delicious) …heads for the hills and well the other…Katherine present and coping and stable and staying no matter what’s happening …
3:43: it’s been a year? Who is more evolved? Is it more loving to stay or go? and what is the story that keeps being repeated… “he just wasn’t that into you” I am just not sure that you are the right person for me…. Is it just a place to go to for Mr. Delicious … to avoidant land…? And then Katherine would just hold space love him …
6:06 Anxiously attached Katherine is having a wobbly experience …. Mr. Delicious, I love you and I am here… or I love you, but I am leaving… Katherine is left being a bit sacrificing… a consistent solid place is missing. She was holding loving within for him but what was happening to her?
8:30 Patterns interplaying … and Katherine gets to the end of her rope …
9:30 Krista has been thinking that Katherine has been maturing into a deeper quieter love… but in fact, Katherine’s light has been dimming after a year in this process. Her juiciness was getting dried up! Instead of feeling the joy intimacy and hot sexuality… everyone was missing it.
10:35: Protection: Does Katherine Need Something? Or is she needy (read “dependent”) …
How did this sneak up on her? Her Loving did not supplant her need for herself to be protected. As the teacher of “not sacrificing” Katherine finds herself on the downside of her needs… and how that leads to suffering… resentment… needs and still whole?
13:31 Katherine gets to have her needs. She needs to know her partner has her back He’s not going to wobble …
14:15: Dependency: unwilling to say what you need. NOT EXPRESSING NEEDS Makes you Dependent …
15:05: Katherine’s sudden realization: (from a nightmare): she realized that she was going to absolutely say “I NEED YOUR PROTECTION.” Krista points out that Katherine was at the “All bets are off” moment. Either Mr. Delicious was going to show up and provide, or she was going to find someone who was going to provide this need for her.
16:32: Katherine was Investing in something that was dissolving. It wasn’t providing for her.
The coming together – moving apart pattern was too threatening for her. Katherine’s trust was deteriorating … could she trust her man? Or herself? Everything starts to shut down…
17:40 Katherine WAKES UP literally at the point of no return… I have needs and I must get them met … Krista points out … her man needs to be needed but not your neediness… holding space or spiritual bypass. Trying to be nice but are we giving ourselves up?
19:00 as soon as Katherine says what is true, what she needs, he responds … jumps in and what else happens?
19:30 for Mr. Delicious: the story of “you are not the one” dissolves. He steps up and in as he sees he is desired! …. INTIMACY is created!
20:15: Dependency and intimacy? How do you tell the difference between the two? Authentic whole feeling … Dependency stickiness … Katherine gets authentic… so intimate… the Truth the deepest truth that we do not to admit makes us vulnerable …
21:26: Energy released back into the partnership. Heroes can lead to co-dependency, but this was authentic… pure intimacy... from codependency there is no trust. No one is really risking.
22:30: Mr. Delicious needs sex and connection … getting honest in the moment. without a plan will share. Right this minute I am feeling…
23:00 intimacy where your body opens you feel that connection emotional connection… authentic and clear... and we ask for the thing we need and what needs to be delivered.
24:00 Krista finds herself connecting emotionally and then feels a sense of her physical response… right here right now… stopped the co-dependent pattern as he was always on the brink of losing it. “He’s going to leave” keeps us from telling the truth.
26:00: For a while it was okay… Katherine could be honest and open and hold space with love. But at some point, she … the last time they went through the cycle Katherine could not open again.
27:44 Trust was finally broken when Katherine had not protected and cared for herself. It looks like the breakup is coming.
28:50 INSTANT healing and opening to Love for both can heal everything. Katherine and MR Delicious and in a partnership again... for the first time in a long time… long term relationship things begin to slide. how long to do stay? But is it really about time?
30:00: once we catch ourselves OUT OF INTEGRITY… not honest about who we are. “I see that I hate how this is BUT I HAVE BEEN LYING about that to myself” ~ Katherine When this happens and we take full responsibility for ourselves and DON’T BLAME HIM … that is where freedom is.
31:30: Start doing HONEST CONVERSATIONS Start with you: I need, I feel I need, something feels ... I feel scared ... I need to feel Protected... I need to feel cared for in this way...
This was the relationship breaker: partnership maker: moving forward? Or not? Own the pattern... but the investment in the intimacy is really the best thing ...
33:49 Relationship with myself. This is the last time. I will go forward but only once more.
Krista: can you fully get over it? Are you going to recreate the same thing?
35:03 Intimacy: I need to give him space for fun and what he needs... in the past be in live with being in love... so then he has to Run...
38:30: Mr. D gets to say : I need and get that need met... as Katherine and Mr. D sort out that co-dependency is going to show if she doesn’t keep her word to herself. Krista invites Katherine into the idea of “I am the One” ...
39:00 INNER CHILD WORK: I’m not the one... both Krista and Katherine both relate but Krista resists...
40:14: As his partner Katherine can support him by reminding him to do things that really fill him up!
40:45 Intimacy is leading them into a deeper sense of partnership. What will this next phase bring? ….
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Who’s been waiting on pins and needles to see how Krista is doing after last week’s episode?
2:03- did healing work beforehand to tell Mr. RHRN she was upset. If he could have only heard how really upset she was. As predicted, he was shocked at how she felt. Brings back of knowing our feelings and reactions are the mental stories in our head.
3:04- Kat- one of the basic tenets of partnership is that you see your partner as innocent, when things go crazy in your head. KK… rrriigghhtt. (insert snarky tone here).
4:28- 1st time they were apart and he came back with softened energy, realized deeper feelings, he’s deepening towards her but she hasn’t caught up to that belief yet.
5:53- KK, belief that you have to Get your kicks somewhere else when you’ve been with someone for a long time. But RHRN feels the opposite.
6:27- need some space to miss your partner. Coming back together is delicious, creates excitement and juiciness. But it’s what KK is most afraid of. Maybe he can move to another country for a month or two and not fall on the floor. MAYBE.
7:41-important component is trust. 8.09- trigger for KK bc of where they started out.
9:07- trusting vs. trustworthy. Have to earn trust. Maybe this is what creates the delicious, juicy bf sex. 10:26- RHRN, would say how he loved gf sex and it felt counterintuitive to his wanting an open relationship. He says it gets better with time. Like a fine wine. KK finally has dropped into believing him. 11.18- KK starts out the gate with an open heart RHRN is more guarded, mulling it over and slowly opens his heart. KK Nowhere left to go but down.
12.40- new exciting & wonderful . Something about a Minivan and New years? What’s that about?
13.24- KM feels safer and more loving with bf sex. How do you keep it more juicy AND more loving. Everything to do with being able to trust your partner. Biggest problems with Mr. Delicious and KM, have revolved around trust. 14.41- one day in Hawaii, really connected and amazing sex, until trust broke and then there was Trouble in Paradise- listen to it all episode in archives!
15.15- boils down to not trusting ourselves. If KK doesn’t believe BF sex can get better, gets boring. But is she creating it and then it IS boring and she starts looking elsewhere to do all the things she’s fearful that Mr. RHRN would do.
16.46- “Oh, he’s gonna get bored with me.” Immediate projection, the indicator of KK’s patterns.
17.18- Diff for KM- not sure sex gets boring but same issues around trust. When trouble happened, trusting and ability to stand up for herself went away. So she holds back could lead to boring sex.
18.50 KK needs to open to the possibility to have experience she (thinks) she wants but part of her that believes it can’t be true. Growth. Exploration. Juicy Sex. Little voice saying, “I don’t believe it.” Fine line of trusting our trustworthy intuition vs being open to trusting.
20.18- Juicy Sex= feel cared for. Relaxed. Express ourselves fully. Be deliciously entertained and entertaining.
21.27- KK needs to get to the “Can It Last” phase. KM- Who’s responsibility is “lasting” anyways? “They” have to keep making it hot + juicy.
Big pause-
22.29-What if it’s about building and growing the trust? Be in the world with this person, travel, nurture through not-so-fun things. 23.37- as RHRN revealed his feelings, slowly awakening, and KK could feel him + dropped into a new level of trusting what he was saying.
24.26- let go of expectation of it looking our/a certain way. More space to grow into. 24.57- KM and Mr. D finds it’s up to him to express his feelings and be ready to choose, not her dragging/forcing/manipulating.
25.59- Did the Gals find the Key to Juiciness?
26.19- Two Gals big proponents of opening their hearts and freedom. Big on working through blocks, old stories, limiting beliefs and thought patterns. This all helps US more than it helps THEM.
27.36- we put conditionings on what the form looks like when the love/care/thoughtfulness comes to us.
28.39- the back & forth, the in & out, the flowing, the growing. Wait are we talking about sex again - play the edge of our trusting & depth of intimacy. 29.02- can go to all kinds of places, admit everything, show everything.
29.53- KK is noticing a part inside of her starting to awaken. Opening up & finding her voice in the world. You’ll have to listen to find out which part!
30.57- KK past relationships where it wasn’t okay for her to have a voice, vocalize, communicate. 32.32- releasing control, becoming vulnerable, feeling safe enough, and both partners need to be trusting and trustworthy.
33.01- You’re definitely going to want to ride this one all the way to the end as the Two Gals talk about chakras, kundalini, tantra, animal energy, pounding it out, poking holes, and (of course) SEX! 34.12- fully awakening our entire energetic system, our connection to the Divine again.
35.19- heart, vulnerability, intuition, compassion
35.52- Girls get to the bottom of the issue.
39.53- invested in keeping it juicy, squeezing the juice, tickling the taint, and not repeating patterns.
Listen as the gals explore what it takes to keep things juicy!
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