The Human Firewall

Our guest today is Francesa Gino from Harvard Business School, and your hosts are Lasse Frost and Jakob Danelund. 

This episode explores how we can use the hidden potential in rebels and rule-breakers to make better compliance and security – and even drive organizations forward. 

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Francesca’s vision: When people are not showing authenticity or stay curious in their jobs, the leaders are often to blame. People need to be truly trusted and empowered to bring their best contributions into the work that they do. I hope that 10 years from now, organizations are filled with leaders who are not afraid of being more transparent, being clear in expectations and giving more control away. 

Frarncesca’s 3 advice: 

• What can we do tomorrow: Let’s have clear expectations. Let’s make sure that as part of developmental plans, there are not only performance goals spelled out, but also learning goals. Let’s make sure that we have more conversations more often with more vulnerability, even about difficult topics like not finding energy in a specific set of task. 
• What can we do in 6 months: Let’s not sit, waiting for others to change work – or how we approach it – for us. Let’s roll up our sleeves and get to action, thinking like the leader that I mentioned earlier from the airforce. 
• What can we do in 5 years: Let’s try to make habits for behaviors that do not come so easily for us. Being curious and challenging the status quo, those are behaviors that we have in us, but that do not necessarily come out naturally. Therefore, it’s important on the long term that we continue to flex and use those muscles of agility that we have worked out a lot over the past year’s Pandemic.