In this episode, I sit down with Simon Curtis to explore what it really takes to make AI work inside modern businesses.

We unpack why messy data, fragmented systems, and inconsistent processes are holding companies back and why the real challenge isn’t the tech, but people and behaviour.

If you’re trying to figure out how AI fits into your business and how to balance automation with human input, this one’s right up your street.

Chapters

• 00:00:00 Intro: AI, Recruitment & The Human Loop
• 00:01:53 The AI Wake-Up Call for Businesses
• 00:05:12 The Hidden Behaviour Problem in Teams
• 00:06:21 Why Process Matters More Than AI Tools
• 00:12:22 The Biggest AI Mistake: Volume Over Quality
• 00:13:50 Why People Reject AI Outreach Instantly
• 00:15:09 Measuring AI ROI: Time vs Revenue
• 00:17:29 How AI Should Reshape Roles
• 00:23:34 Selection vs Attraction: What AI Can’t Replace
• 00:27:20 When AI Projects Actually Succeed
• 00:29:02 Why Most Tech Rollouts Fail
• 00:30:16 The $100K Mistake: Tools No One Uses
• 00:33:24 Why Humans Still Matter in AI
• 00:38:11 Final Thoughts: The Future of Work

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In this episode, I sit down with Paul, founder of Ookkee, to talk about how modern service businesses are evolving, the role of AI in day-to-day operations, and what it really means to build an efficient, future-proof company.

We dive into how Ookkee operates as a bookkeeping business, how AI is being integrated into their workflow, and why the real opportunity isn’t replacing people, but enabling better decisions, faster delivery, and more value for clients. We also explore how the industry is changing and what founders need to understand to stay competitive.

If you’re building a business or trying to figure out how AI actually fits into your operations, this one’s right up your street.

Connect with Paul - https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulclarke-ookkee

Check out ookkee - https://www.ookkee.co.uk

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In this weeks round up I discuss the critical issues facing leadership today, including high stress levels among managers, the importance of talent density, and the challenges of AI integration in organisations. He emphasizes the need for real-time engagement, effective change management, and empathetic leadership to navigate these complexities.

Chapters

• 00:00:00 Introduction to The Weekly Loop
• 00:00:28 The Leadership Stress Crisis
• 00:01:07 Why Middle Management Matters More Than Ever
• 00:02:17 Talent Density and Protecting Business Margins
• 00:03:12 Real-Time Employee Engagement
• 00:03:39 The Long-Term Stress Leaders Have Faced Since 2020
• 00:04:11 How Leaders Should Handle Constant Change
• 00:05:04 Why CEOs Believe Their Jobs Depend on AI
• 00:05:41 Why 95% of AI Pilots Fail
• 00:06:29 The Change Management Mistake Companies Make
• 00:07:26 The Change Equation: Why People Resist Change
• 00:08:18 Closing the Knowing–Doing Gap
• 00:09:04 The Risk of Losing Your Best Leaders
• 00:10:02 Why Talent Density Will Define Winning Companies

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In this episode, I sit down with Ezra, entrepreneur and multi-business founder to talk about leadership, failure, systems, and the real impact AI is about to have on modern businesses.

After being forced to shut down 65–70% of his group in 2019, Ezra rebuilt with a sharper focus on structure, accountability, and long-term competitive advantage. We explore why most founders are thinking about AI wrong, what actually creates a moat in today’s landscape and why systems matter more than chaos when scaling.

If you're building a company or trying to stay competitive in an AI-driven world, this one's right up your street!

Chapters

• 00:00:00 Systems Thinking Starts at Home
• 00:02:00 Leadership Lessons from Childhood
• 00:05:45 Chaos vs Systems in Early-Stage Founders
• 00:08:35 Why Founders Secretly Love the Mess
• 00:09:23 The Collapse: Shutting Down 65–70% of the Group
• 00:11:10 Accountability at Your Lowest Point
• 00:12:00 Why Failure Makes Better Entrepreneurs
• 00:26:01 The AI Question Most Businesses Aren’t Asking
• 00:27:42 The Real Moat: Data, Relationships & Expertise
• 00:30:40 Brand, Memory & The Human Advantage
• 00:43:19 Optimising Humans, Not Replacing Them
• 00:44:48 Turning AI Into Competitive Leverage
• 00:46:00 From Recruiter to Talent Solutions Architect

Connect with Ezra - https://ezrachapman.com

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I’m Ben, founder of Atherio and my mission is simple: enable the performance and wellbeing of 10 million managers in the next three years.

In this episode, I share why managers have one of the toughest jobs in business, why most don’t get the support they need, and how we’re bridging the gap between knowing what good leadership looks like and actually doing it.

From elite sport with England national rugby union team to working with global organisations, I’ve seen what makes teams flourish and what causes them to fail.

If you care about building high-performing teams without burning people out, this one’s for you.

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In this week’s episode of the Human in the Loop podcast, I sit down with Nikki, Managing Director of Ferox Partners, to explore what AI really means for recruitment, leadership, and the future of work.

We unpack how AI can drive speed and efficiency in hiring without losing the human relationships that build trust, culture, and performance. From cultural fit versus skill set, to offshoring, early-career development, and burnout in lean teams.
We then delve into the need for businesses to adapt to continuous change and the critical role of resilience and adaptability in maintaining high performance without leading to burnout.

Chapters

• 00:00:00 Introduction & Lunch at Lashings
• 00:02:30 Ferox Partners & Running Lean with AI
• 00:06:00 AI in Recruitment: Efficiency vs Human Judgment
• 00:10:30 Cultural Fit vs Skillset: What Really Matters?
• 00:14:45 Will AI Replace Human Roles?
• 00:19:30 Trust, Emotion & The “Bad Sandwich” Analogy
• 00:23:30 On-Site Client Work & The Value of Human Insight
• 00:29:00 Offshoring vs AI: The Future of Recruitment Models
• 00:36:00 Entry-Level Jobs & The Impact of AI on Early Careers
• 00:41:30 Education, MBAs & Preparing Graduates for AI-First Workplaces
• 00:47:00 Parental Responsibility & Work Ethic in the Next Generation
• 00:52:00 Burnout, Lean Teams & Manager Capability
• 00:57:00 Risk, Development & The Future of Leadership

Connect with Nikki - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikki-foster-21014223/

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In this week's episode I sit down with Lily Kyriacou to discuss the challenges of reactive fixes in business, particularly in the context of team dynamics and performance. Lily shares her experiences at Amdaris, where she observed that traditional approaches to problem-solving were inadequate in a rapidly changing environment.

We then delve into the need for businesses to adapt to continuous change and the critical role of resilience and adaptability in maintaining high performance without leading to burnout.

Chapters

• 00:00:00 Introduction to Business Challenges
• 00:01:23 The Impact of Reactive Fixes
• 00:05:32 Understanding Team Dynamics
• 00:10:18 The Importance of Adaptability
• 00:12:13 Exploring Solutions for Resilience
• 00:19:52 Identifying Key Behaviors in Teams
• 00:25:34 The Shift from Skills to Job Identities
• 00:30:08 Reinventing How We Approach Our People

Connect with Lilly - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lilykyriacou

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In this week's episode, Ruth and I discuss the importance of strategic planning for 2026, emphasising the need for business leaders to reflect on past performance and set clear goals. We explore the integration of AI in the construction industry, highlighting its potential to enhance efficiency and safety. Ruth also addresses the challenges of adopting AI, advocating for treating it as a team member and ensuring proper training for employees.

Chapters

• 00:00:00 Strategic Planning for the New Year
• 00:03:13 AI in the Construction Industry
• 00:10:01 Integrating AI as a Team Member
• 00:16:59 Enhancing Project Management with AI
• 00:21:20 The Future of AI in Construction
• 00:30:21 Transforming Construction Through Data and Automation

Connect with Ruth - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruth-oates-864b2b3/?originalSubdomain=uk

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In this episode of the Human Loop podcast, I discuss two main topics: the importance of understanding one's purpose in leadership, inspired by a podcast featuring Tony Robbins and Alex Hormozi, and the rising adoption of AI in the workplace, as highlighted by a recent Gallup study.

Chapters

• 00:00:00 Exploring Leadership and Purpose
• 00:03:50 The Rise of AI in the Workplace

Watch the conversation with Tony & Alex referenced here: https://youtu.be/xz-ymFOhBAE?si=YZxtgVx_Y7JxGdK7

Study Mentioned: https://app.e.gallup.com/e/es?s=831949997&e=4411946&elqTrackId=efd74c1a1b7a40299e524d6e5aa03bea&elq=8a49383f2812429785f47237c625512f&elqaid=16041&elqat=1&elqak=8AF5FB05DB48FD93D787A44BE55A195E925B0FF358E0599887B460C22E481365422F

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In this week's episode I sit down with Andrew Fahey to discuss the challenges and opportunities for CEOs in 2026, emphasising the importance of realistic optimism. We explore the role of AI in transforming professional services, the necessity of human skills in a tech-driven world, and the innovative approaches Briars is taking to enhance client experience and internal processes.

Chapters

• 00:00:00 Navigating 2026: Realistic Optimism for CEOs
• 00:02:57 Briars: Global Expansion and Professional Services
• 00:05:56 AI Disruption in Professional Services
• 00:09:00 The Human Element in AI Integration
• 00:11:47 Transforming Client Experience with AI
• 00:15:01 Internal Use Cases for AI in Leadership
• 00:19:58 The Future of Onboarding and Human Skills
• 00:24:39 Generational Challenges in Professional Services
• 00:29:48 Conclusion: Embracing Change for Success

Connect with Andrew - https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewfahey/

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