What if the suffering we face — personally and professionally — is actually what shapes us into better leaders? In episode 3, I sit down with Dr Mark Crosweller to explore how loss, Buddhist philosophy and the realities of crisis work have influenced his approach to leadership. It is an honest, thoughtful conversation about the changing nature of life, compassion and the inner work required to lead well in high‑stakes environments. Mark’s reflections invite us to rethink strength, vulnerability and what communities truly need from their leaders.

In this episode, Scott Dehnisch takes us inside the human reality of working across fragile countries and high‑risk environments. From the moral weight of decision‑making to the moments that reshape a leader under pressure, Scott shares raw insights working in international emergency operations. It’s an honest, grounded conversation about courage, consequence, and what it really means to serve communities on the edge.

In Episode 1, Greg Mullins AO AFSM opens up about the moments that defined him — the fires, the losses, and the truths leaders carry long after the fire is out. It’s a raw, honest conversation about courage, vulnerability, and what it takes to show up when everything is on the line.

When the pressure hits, humanity matters most — this podcast goes straight to the heart.

The Human Side of Emergency Management Podcast is a raw and honest look at the people behind emergencies — the leaders, paid and volunteers, who carry the emotional weight of this work. Hosted by Australian emergency management leader Vivien Thomson, the podcast explores the courage, compassion, connection, and lived experience that shape real leadership in high‑stakes environments. Through open conversations and shared wisdom from around the world, listeners are invited to reflect on what they’re learning, how they’re growing, and what it truly means to lead with humanity. Because at the end of the day, that’s the heart of what we do.