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Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. This episode is an exploration on education between Shailesh Shirali and Jaap Sluijter. Dr. Shailesh Shirali has been with the Krishnamurti schools in India since the early 1980s. He is a trustee of the Krishnamurti Foundation of India (KFI) and has served as Principal of Rishi Valley School; he is currently the Director of Sahyadri School. He has also been in the field of mathematics education for many decades and is the author of several books for students and teachers. He has a particular interest in ancient Indian mathematics, and in facilitating inquiry into fundamental issues among teachers and students at the school level. Jaap Sluijter has a long-standing interest in the questions raised by Krishnamurti. Currently, Jaap is the Executive Director of the Krishnamurti Foundation of America. Previously, he lived and taught at Brockwood Park School in England. He has an MA in Mechanical Engineering and worked as a design engineer in the field of camera systems and musical instruments. Together, they attempt to look at education through a wider angle: developing one’s full potential in and out of the classroom, as well as the challenges they face in education. You can also view this episode on YouTube.

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The Immeasurable Podcast is highlighting a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for details.

J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - Dialogue 5: The Ground of Being and the Mind of Humanity

Series: The Ending of Time

Why is having ideas become so important?

What is the difference between a religious mind and a philosophic mind?

What is the human mind’s relationship to the ground?

Why has man accumulated knowledge?

When you love somebody there is no ‘me’, it is love. In the same way, when I say I am humanity, it is so. It is not an idea, it is not a conclusion, it is part of me.

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The Immeasurable Podcast is highlighting a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Visit kfa.org for details.

J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - Dialogue 4: Breaking the Pattern of Ego-centred Activity

Series: The Ending of Time

What will make a human being change, deeply, fundamentally, radically?

Will I, as a human being, give up my egocentric activity completely?

The more knowledge I have acquired, as I have evolved, as I have grown, as I have experienced, it has strengthened me, and I have been walking on that path for millennia. Perhaps I may have to look at this problem totally differently - which is not to walk on that path at all; discard all knowledge I have acquired.

Explanations have been the boat on which to cross to the other shore. The man on the other shore says there is no boat. Cross!

What happens to me when I meet something that is completely solid, immovable, absolutely true?

Psychological knowledge has made us dull.

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Welcome to The Immeasurable Podcast. The following episode is an exploration with Leah Luong and Jackie McInley and was recorded in Ojai at Pine Cottage, Krishnamurti’s former residence. The episode is titled after the book Beyond Violence.

Krishnamurti said, “We have built a society which is violent and we as human beings are violent; the environment, the culture we live in, is the product of our endeavor, of our struggle, of our pain, of our appalling brutalities. So the most important question is: is it possible to end this tremendous violence within oneself?” While Jackie and Leah discuss this possibility together, they are by no means experts and this dialogue is an attempt to discover it as if for the first time. You can also view this episode on YouTube.

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The Immeasurable Podcast is highlighting a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Please go to kfa.org for details.

J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - Dialogue 3: Why Has Man Given Supreme Importance to Thought?

Series: The Ending of Time

Q: Is the 'ground' indifferent to mankind, as the physical universe appears to be?

How does one find out if there is something more than merely the physical?

Q: Why is it that theories are necessary and useful in organizing facts about matter outwardly, and yet inwardly, psychologically they are in the way, of no use at all?

Seeking security for myself, for my family, for my group, and for my tribe, has brought about division.

Why has man given importance to thought as the supreme thing?

If I accept I am irrational completely, I am rational.

For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:

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Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast. I’m Leah Luong and this episode is a talk given by David Edmund Moody during the 2018 Annual May Gathering. David was the first teacher hired when Krishnamurti founded the Oak Grove School in Ojai, California, in 1975. He subsequently served as educational director of the school, which was the position he held at the time of Krishnamurti’s death in 1986. He is the author of three books about Krishnamurti. His most recent book is titled Krishnamurti in America: New Perspectives on the Man and his Message (Alpha Centauri Press, 2020). 

David’s talk is called Conflict in Relationship: Krishnamurti's View. He raises questions such as, “Can thought be aware of its own limitations?” and “If you have no relationship with nature, how can you have relationship with human beings?” His talk centers around understanding the sources of conflict in human relationship, what it means to be related, and exploring the nature and meaning of thought.

I hope you enjoy it.

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The Immeasurable Podcast is highlighting a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Please go to kfa.org for details.

J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - 2: Cleansing the Mind of the Accumulation of Time

Series: The Ending of Time

Time is the enemy of man.

Is there a beginning which is not enmeshed in time?

We said nothingness is everything and so it is total energy. It is undiluted pure, uncorrupted energy. Is there something beyond that?

Has man ever been free from the ‘I’?

That emptiness can only exist when there is death of the particular.

For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:

International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/krishnamurtifoundationamerica
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Krishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/
Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/
Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/
Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/

© 1980 Krishnamurti Foundation Trust

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Welcome to The Immeasurable  Podcast, this episode is a talk by Cory Fisher given during the annual May Gathering in 2019. Cory Fisher has been involved with the Krishnamurti Foundation of America since 2013, when he was among the first generations of Residential Students/Scholars at the Krishnamurti Center in Ojai, California. He now serves as the Director of Publications and Archives at the Krishnamurti Foundation of America. 

His talk Freedom from the Known: the Krishnamurti Perspective features a conversation between Krishnamurti and theoretical physicist David Bohm as well as a dialogue between Krishnamurti and Alaine Naudé. In this talk, Cory delves into what Krishnamurti means by “freedom from the known”,  exploring Krishnamurti’s themes around consciousness, time, freedom, and knowledge. I hope you enjoy it.

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The Immeasurable Podcast is highlighting a fifteen-part series from Ojai recorded in 1980 where J. Krishnamurti spoke with David Bohm about the ending of time. You can visit Pine Cottage where this conversation took place, and where Krishnamurti lived and passed away, during visiting hours at the Krishnamurti Library in Ojai, CA. Please go to kfa.org for details.

J. Krishnamurti & David Bohm - Brockwood Park 1980 - 1: The Roots of Psychological Conflict

Series: The Ending of Time

Has humanity taken a wrong turn?

What is the root of this tremendous inward conflict of humanity?

When I am trying to become something it is a constant battle.

Can the brain itself see that it is caught in time and as long as it is moving in that direction conflict is eternal, endless?

Can the mind realize, resolve a psychological problem immediately?

Has mankind journeyed through millennia to come to this: that I am nothing and therefore I am everything and all energy?

For more information about J. Krishnamurti and the Krishnamurti foundations:

International Site - http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jk.krishnamurti
Krishnamurti Foundation Trust, UK - http://www.kfoundation.org/
Krishnamurti Foundation of America - http://www.kfa.org/
Krishnamurti Foundation of India - http://www.kfionline.org/
Fundación Krishnamurti Latinoamericana - http://www.fkla.org/

© 1980 Krishnamurti Foundation Trust

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Welcome back to another season of the Immeasurable Podcast. You’re listening to an interview with Lobsang Tenzin, also known as the fifth Samdhong Rinpoche. He is a Tibetan Buddhist teacher and philosopher who has lived in Dharamsala, India since 1959 when he fled Tibet. He is the spiritual advisor to the Dalai Lama. In addition, he served as the Prime Minister of the cabinet of the Central Tibetan Administration and was the director of the Central Institute of Higher Tibetan Studies in Varanasi, India. He also served as a trustee of the Krishnamurti Foundation in India for several decades. In this interview, Rinpoche discusses his understanding of Krishnamurti's teachings and Buddhist teachings, as well as Krishnamurti's role as a “teacher.” 

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